x2 3800 problems

[DarkManX4lf]

ok i just got my x2 3800 yesterday, i put it in my motherboard and i am sure that i applied very little thermal paste (just enough) and i put my TTBig Typhoon hsf on it, reconnected all the cables and booted up at default bios settings, WinXP x64 booted with no problems so i rebooted and went into the bios and started to overclock...i got up to 270x10 with a 1:1 mem divider 3-3-3-8 timings and i ran two instances of prime95 (its the 64bit edition) on both cores...i made sure i set the affinities properly...and prime95 ran stable for about 2 or 3 hours...i then rebooted my machine and it wouldnt boot properly anymore, it would sometimes freeze at the bios menu, it would sometimes go into windows and just reboot right when it gets to the desktop...

i thought maybe its my ram and i took one stick out and i left only one stick in the mobo (in the 3rd slot) and still it wouldnt boot...i then set the bios to its default settings and tried to boot with its defaults and still it would reboot at windows....i took out the x2 3800 and i put back my old a64 3500+ and it booted fine. For this asus a8v deluxe i had the 1017 bios, i think its the latest one, but now i flashed it back to an older bios the 1015 bios, and i placed the x2 3800 back in, it booted fine...i went back into the bios and i started to overclock and again i got up to 270x10 1:1 mem divider 3-3-3-8...and prime95 ran stable for 8hours....i decided to reboot just to check...and guess what...same symptoms it wont boot properly.....wtf is going on here ! is it a bad processor? bad mobo? someone help !

edit: also i put the htt to 4x and 3x and it stillwouldnt boot properly...and i also reset the cmos as well and still same problems

 

[Thor86]

PSU?

 

[DarkManX4lf]

the psu that i have is a rosewill psu located here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817182002

now i know that rosewill isnt the greatest psu maker...but it has worked with my a64 3500+ for over a year

 

[DarkManX4lf]

i seem to be able to boot into safemode with out any problems....

 

[johnnynodough]

 

[johnnynodough]

Wow, nice blank reply...... <<<<<---------Blank Damnit Blank!
Anyways, as I was going to say..


You changed the HAL (Hardware abstraction layer, how the OS communicates with the hardware) when you put in that X2, you really should have a fresh install of Windows, even though the thing boots fine to start.

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: johnnynodough
Wow, nice black reply......
Anyways, as I was going to say..


You changed the HAL (Hardware abstraction layer, how the OS communicates with the hardware) when you put in that X2, you really should have a fresh install of Windows, even though the thing boots fine to start.

yeah i realized that when i was able to boot into safe mode......this sucks big time as i JUST reformatted like two days ago...bah

hopefully everything will go smoothly

thanks

 

[johnnynodough]

NM, that wouldnt explain locking up in the bios menu.

I think you just pissed it off

I miss my A8V deluxe, great mobo. Now I am on the is A8V-SE so I can run PCi-E. Not nearly as good for OC.

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: johnnynodough
NM, that wouldnt explain locking up in the bios menu.

I think you just pissed it off

heh, the bios menu lockups havent occured since i went back to the 1015 bios...hopefuly it wont happen anymore

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: DarkManX4lf

Originally posted by: johnnynodough
Wow, nice black reply......
Anyways, as I was going to say..


You changed the HAL (Hardware abstraction layer, how the OS communicates with the hardware) when you put in that X2, you really should have a fresh install of Windows, even though the thing boots fine to start.

yeah i realized that when i was able to boot into safe mode......this sucks big time as i JUST reformatted like two days ago...bah

hopefully everything will go smoothly

thanks

You could just create a new partition on your HD and go from there - rather than reformatting. That way you could still use your old CPU if you ever got a wild hair.

Btw - it's a 939 3800, right? I ordered my rig yesterday and I've got an AM2 3800 on the way - just trying to see what kind of OC you're getting - 2.7 GHz is impressive.

 

[imported_Sincity]

HAL?? That sucks.......would be a pain in the ass to reformat. Especially since I reinstalled XP a few months back. Did you forget to install the X2 driver?

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: inspire


Btw - it's a 939 3800, right? I ordered my rig yesterday and I've got an AM2 3800 on the way - just trying to see what kind of OC you're getting - 2.7 GHz is impressive.

yeah i got to 2.7ghz at 1.45v and prime95 ran stable for about 7-8hours i tried to go 2.8ghz at 1.5v but it didnt work out...but lets see now...i just finished formatting and isntalling windows and everything seems to be fine so far

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: Sincity
HAL?? That sucks.......would be a pain in the ass to reformat. Especially since I reinstalled XP a few months back. Did you forget to install the X2 driver?

x2 driver? what x2 driver?

 

[johnnynodough]

X2 optimizer, but thats not going to change the HAL, only a reload will.

 

[imported_Sincity]

From AMD: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tec...lResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html

Download the dual core optimizer (top of page) and the X2 driver (bottom of page)

Here is a good thread on the subject: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1900618&enterthread=y

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: Sincity
From AMD: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Tec...lResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html

Download the dual core optimizer (top of page) and the X2 driver (bottom of page)

Here is a good thread on the subject: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1900618&enterthread=y

thanks


i have another question does the x2 produce more heat than a regular single core a64? i mean i would think its obvious and it should create more heat but i'm just asking to make sure...

right now i'm stable at 270x10 1:1 mem 3-3-3-8-1t, and the temp ranges from 34c to 48c ..which is a 14c increase...

 

[Markfw]

yes, it has two cores, so more heat.

 

[DarkManX4lf]

so the temps im getting is normal ?

 

[Markfw]

yes, my X2 3800's run ~42-~50c full load both cores. I use XP90's

 

[DarkManX4lf]

ok....i think i found the root of my reboot problems...after installing the x2 dual core optimizer, every time i get to the windows desktop it would j ust reboot...i went into safemode and disabled the dual core optimizer from starting and the reboots are gone....does this happen to anyone else? is there a way to fix this?

 

[imported_Sincity]

Damm...that is an awesome overclock!

 

[videopho]

 

[DarkManX4lf]

Originally posted by: Sincity
Damm...that is an awesome overclock!

thanks

what about my dual core optimizer problem?

 

[imported_Sincity]

2.7 ghz is an awesome overclock on a X2 3800.

Sorry...not sure about your optimizer issues.

 

[DarkManX4lf]

thanks

would anyone know how to fix this?