X2 3800+ 52C under load. Problem?

[Pwntcomputer]

Back up thanks to DrMrLordX

Two instances of Superpi with affinity set to separate cores. Both cores 100%

With my cooling, shouldn't these temps be a little lower? 27C room temp.

 

[DrMrLordX]

It might be your RAM. What SuperPi test were you running? btw, you should switch to Orthos for a dual-core processor. It's a very nice program.

Also, to isolate your RAM as a possible cause of your troubles, set it to some slow setting like 2:1 ratio, 3-3-3-8 2T and then raise FSB after that.

edit: hah woops, that was fast

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Thanks for the reply !! . I actually ended up doing exactly what you suggested. I dropped it 3-3-3-8 to isolate it as the problem. Which it was.

My ram is rated at 2.75V, I had it under @ 2.6.

Bumped to 2.70v 2-3-3-5 @ DDR440 1:1

Problem I am having now is merely a heat issue with my X2 3800+. 52C @ 100% on both cores with two instances of SuperPi. I really think I need to reseat the Typhoon (copper wrecking ball) or get a AC 64 Pro.

I'd really like to reach 2.5 on Air 50C max @ load.

 

[myocardia]

Your RAM requires 2.5-3-3-8 timings and 2.80v, to be able to run @ 250 Mhz. Also, your Big Typhoon is much better than an AC Freezer 64 Pro; you just need to tighten it down farther. Also, what vcore are you using?

 

[A554SS1N]

27C room temp is pretty warm, and internal case temps will always get a few more degrees higher, so it's not that far off of being normal, especially when running a demanding test? Maybe could have been about 3-4C lower, but then again, the thermal diode's are never completely accurate.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Your RAM requires 2.5-3-3-8 timings and 2.80v, to be able to run @ 250 Mhz. Also, your Big Typhoon is much better than an AC Freezer 64 Pro; you just need to tighten it down farther. Also, what vcore are you using?

I'm using 1.31 vcore currently. I tried a run @ 3-3-3-8 1.31vcore @ 2.3ghz

Froze almost instantly after SuperPi

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: A554SS1N
27C room temp is pretty warm, and internal case temps will always get a few more degrees higher, so it's not that far off of being normal, especially when running a demanding test? Maybe could have been about 3-4C lower, but then again, the thermal diode's are never completely accurate.

I'm starting to agree with you. My ambient @ 27C and a CPU running at 31-32C idle may not be something to worry about. I just need to get my damn load temps down

 

[myocardia]

You really need to read this: guide to overclocking Athlon 64's.

 

[f4phantom2500]

man that sucks, you can't get past 2.2ghz and your temps are that hot? with my freezer 64 pro and my x2 3800 toledo oc'ed to 2.4ghz i was getting high 50's, pretty hot i think, but the maxtcase for that chip was like 63 C or something so it didn't bother me too much when it hardly ever touched 60 after hours and hours of prime 95.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: myocardia
You really need to read this: guide to overclocking Athlon 64's.

I have read that actually. Other good guides are
The definitive guide
NF4 BIOS Mem Guide

I was always afraid to OC, but really.......it's not hard at all. People just need to read a little. I was just wondering if anyone had any tricks. I want to run EVERYTHING @ Stock voltage. I will play with it a little more later. Thanks

 

[GuitarDaddy]

52c is not bad with your room temps, dual cores always run a little hotter.

As long as you don't have to up the vcore, the temps won't go up much as you continue to increase the speed. I would go on up to 2.4/2.5 and check your temps there.

Improving your case airflow by cleaning up your cables and/or adding case fans will always help, and remember once the thermal compound sets your temps will drop 2-3c

As long as your load temps stay in the 50's your fine IMHO

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
52c is not bad with your room temps, dual cores always run a little hotter.

As long as you don't have to up the vcore, the temps won't go up much as you continue to increase the speed. I would go on up to 2.4/2.5 and check your temps there.

Improving your case airflow by cleaning up your cables and/or adding case fans will always help, and remember once the thermal compound sets your temps will drop 2-3c

As long as your load temps stay in the 50's your fine IMHO

Damn Phoenix Arizona . Superpi refuses run past 2.2ghz even with the 3-3-3-8.

Vcore = 1.375v
230x10 or 225x10
Ram @ 2.7v 1:1 3-3-3-8
LDT multi set low to 3 to figure out sweet spot for CPU

Windows boots and temp is good @ idle. Freezes after a couple seconds of SuperPi

Rock solid @ 2.2 Ghz 2-3-3-5 1.35v Vcore

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Use a memory divider don't let ram stop your O/C, memory speed is much less important than CPU speed. No way your CPU is topping out at 2.2ghz. Set the memory to 166/DDR333 and try 240x10 that should run your memory at stock DDR400 so use stock timings and ddr volts.

And I here ya on the temps, I live in Texas and always have to fight the ambient temps.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Use a memory divider don't let ram stop your O/C, memory speed is much less important than CPU speed. No way your CPU is topping out at 2.2ghz. Set the memory to 166/DDR333 and try 240x10 that should run your memory at stock DDR400 so use stock timings and ddr volts.

And I here ya on the temps, I live in Texas and always have to fight the ambient temps.

Thank Guitar! I'll give it a shot.

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Use a memory divider don't let ram stop your O/C, memory speed is much less important than CPU speed. No way your CPU is topping out at 2.2ghz. Set the memory to 166/DDR333 and try 240x10 that should run your memory at stock DDR400 so use stock timings and ddr volts.

And I here ya on the temps, I live in Texas and always have to fight the ambient temps.

Tried this. It didn't work. I am convinced it isn't the ram. I think my CPU sucks. I tried booting into windows @ 1.35 vcore @ 2.3Ghz. No happening. When I bumped the vcore to 1.4, it booted windows, but froze during superpi.

I think I am just stuck @ 2.2. Damn all that OC gear and people are getting 2.5 on a dell?

2.2 runs superpi over and over no problem. Memtest ran no problem.


Any other suggestions? I am at a loss now. I don't really want to feed that CPU any more juice.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

1.375 is nothing on an X2, up to 1.5 is safe as long as temps are OK