x1950xt crashing in games

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
3dmark05 = 9566

crashed in return to proxycon on 3dmark06 but ill run it tomorrow morning

it's somewhat low ... look at mine with a lesser system beats yours by almost 1,000
--and check temps the 'instant' you come out of an ap or game

 

[Modular]

Checking temps right after exiting the game isn't the best indicator of stressed temps at all. Get ATiTool or Rivatuner (I'm not sure Riva works with Ati cards though) and run a graph of GPU temps that you can refer back to and see the highest temps after you exit the game.

Also, doesn't this card have a well-known tendency to overheat its voltage regulator? Maybe that's what it causing the lockups and errors..

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Modular
Checking temps right after exiting the game isn't the best indicator of stressed temps at all. Get ATiTool or Rivatuner (I'm not sure Riva works with Ati cards though) and run a graph of GPU temps that you can refer back to and see the highest temps after you exit the game.

Also, doesn't this card have a well-known tendency to overheat its voltage regulator? Maybe that's what it causing the lockups and errors..

al-tab in the middle of a game works pretty well to see the max temp
-yeah ... run the graph ... if you still have it when it all crashes

and a defective x1950 overheats the regulator to the point of crashing ... his may well be defective

the best way is to try it in another rig ... since he has tried another GPU in his rig without issues already

i am starting to suspect the card

 

[Modular]

alt-tab will work, but there are 2 problems with that method. The first is that you are going to see temps that are cooler than they were just mere seconds before you alt-tabbed. My 6600gt with the Zalman cooler drops by 5c (sometimes more) within seconds of closing a game.

The other problem is that even if it were reporting maximum temperatures, they would only be the maximums for that particular moment. If you look at a graph of GPU temps over time of playing a game, they are nowhere near stable. At some points the card can be running quite a bit warmer than others. On my 6600gt for example, in Oblivion there are times when the GPU reaches 70c, but there are also times when it is down around 60c. That's a pretty big difference.

Not trying to knock you personally apoppin, its just that if he wants to see the highest temp his card is reaching, then alt-tab just isn't going to cut it.

 

[apoppin]

i totally agree

but IF your rig *crashes* your graph is kinda hard to look at
-it is OK for 'vpu recover' but not if the whole system goes down

alt tab works quick enough IF you suspect your GPU is overheating ... i do it under the most intense demanding scenes ... it doesn't cool that fast

and i did it a LOT ... to get an 'average' of temps
--but then i primarily used it when i had problems with my whole rig going down ...

 

[HybridSquirrel]

yeah it probably is my card, but its stupid because i just got it back from RMA not 2 days ago =[ will post up temps when i start gaming later today

 

[apoppin]

is it with *exactly* the same problem?
:Q

--it isn't the same card is it?

 

[HybridSquirrel]

im not sure if its the same card, i have no way of knowing unless i call newegg but im assuming its the same card...bcuz it worked fine with another x1950xt and yes its exactlly the same problem

 

[apoppin]

you are supposed to write the serial number down

was the package "sealed" ?

tell newegg it's the *same* problem and that your rig works fine with a different GPU ... try the 'live chat' with CS ... i think you got 9 minutes left for today

i'd suggest go for another RMA and make sure you get another card

THEN if is the 3rd card ...



i dunno

.... power supply? ... poltergeist ?

 

[HybridSquirrel]

mmkay ill rma again, im doing something a friend suggested to me and aim a fan onto the back.

it was the first time i rma'd something and cirthix scolded me for not writing down the serial... ill live chat tomorrow

 

[HybridSquirrel]

got some 3dmark06 results

5837

 

[apoppin]

well that IS right on

still crashing?


did you ever get those max temps? ...
--a tidbit i found from someone with a similar 'crashing' problem

I changed the airflow so i've a case fan blowing side on to the card, AND
with the wonderful ATI TOOL adjusted the card fan to be at 100% before 50c
is reached. I've had no problem since at stk clock settings.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

i think my problem was i installed a small fan on the NB to cool it down..but i think that was blowing hot air onto the back of my card

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
i think my problem was i installed a small fan on the NB to cool it down..but i think that was blowing hot air onto the back of my card

that 's *it*

it's fixed
... too warm ... --thought so


... eventually

 

[HybridSquirrel]

man i didnt understand that =[ i still get the occasional crash but not nearly as much as before

 

[apoppin]

sorry

.... your issues appear to be heat-related ... perhaps the core and the HS aren't making proper contact

what were your temps alt-tabbing out of intense scenes in games?

if you are still getting crashes and it isn't OC'd and you can't improve the cooling, RMA it
... my x1950p has to put up with 80sF for 'room temps'

 

[HybridSquirrel]

i keep getting dx9 errors now...

temps idling now are 54 gaming 70ish

 

[apoppin]

70ish

what does 'alt-tab' out of games give you as Max temps?

--RMA it

 

[Bill Brasky]

I think this is a heat related issue, and the heatsink needs to be resat or rma the card again.

my 2 cents...

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Originally posted by: apoppin
70ish

what does 'alt-tab' out of games give you as Max temps?

--RMA it

ive already rma'd it

the alt-tabbing gets me the 70ish reading

 

[apoppin]

cool ... you are waaay ahead of me

let us know the results with your THIRD card

please

 

[HybridSquirrel]

=]
fer shizzle

 

[HybridSquirrel]

UPDATE:

talked to newegg. they are sending me a card so i can test that and if the other is successful they also sent me a prepaid box to ship mine back. just gotta wait a few days for shipping

 

[apoppin]

did you see this guy's thread?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=2050037&enterthread=y

almost identical problems ... i alerted him to your thread

 

[ProjectIcarus]

I can get a X1950XT to run under load with 350W PSU, I should get a medal