X1900XTX vs 512MB GTX

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: fierydemise
If at all possible could you do some testing of CCC to see how bloated it actually it is, although most people use ATI tray tools CCC is such a contentious issue I'd like something slightly more definitive.

Thanks fierydemise. I 2nd that.
for instance, game load time, windows start time. etc

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Ok ok ok ok... We have all said what we wanted too, lets just let this thread continue on. I agree with many posts here, but we should be respectful of the thread now that we have said our peace. My post wasn't meant to be a flame and unfortunately I may have started all this. My post was just to inform users that I believe the OP has a bias and that they may have reason to be skeptical of the test results. Beyond that, there was no flaming and let us just let Ronin have his thread and post his results.

If the results seem skewed, feel free to post then, otherwise, lets just leave this thread knowing that we have said our peace to protect the innocent of possible deception, if any.

Agreed but one last comment for those asking Ronin to evaluate CCC: I caught him posting up a well timed picture of CCC during initial load to make it seem like it was using over 60 MB of actual memory (not VM) when in truth CCC only uses around 12 MB when loaded (not counting other services that take around 4-5 MB). That's why I'm very skeptical about this guy being anywhere close to neutral.

 

[n7]

I, for one, look forward to the results.

I don't necessarily agree with Ronin on everything, but he's always been a reasonable poster here, unlike some others who are clouding up this thread 🙂

I know it's a really old game, but i wouldn't mind results of UT2k4 @ 1920x1200, everything cranked up with all the AA & AF you can fairly add between the two cards 😀
Thanx.

 

[VERTIGGO]

This is awesome, 4 pages of flames in one day, and no time for the man to get his bench on!!!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

I don't suck up. I'm just tired of reading 20 page long threads with no real content.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

Ah well maybe he's trying hard to put in for a transfer to the nVidia division?

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

so now all beta testers are AEG and affliated? Why would I mock MS if I "work" for them?
Or is it the other way around? do you "work" for ATI? looks like your intention is simply to blacklist all who oppose ATI and flame all threads that may not favor ATI..

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: n7
I, for one, look forward to the results.

I don't necessarily agree with Ronin on everything, but he's always been a reasonable poster here, unlike some others who are clouding up this thread 🙂

I know it's a really old game, but i wouldn't mind results of UT2k4 @ 1920x1200, everything cranked up with all the AA & AF you can fairly add between the two cards 😀
Thanx.

If I can find my disks, I'll be happy to (don't think it's on my backup ISO drive, but I'll check).

Edit: I stand corrected. It's there. 🙂

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

Ah well maybe he's trying hard to put in for a transfer to the nVidia division?

Joker, I'm going to let you alone in your own perfect ATI world now. yes, feel free to accuse anyone you like in your own little world. Have fun.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

How about your 2000+ posts at Rage3D? :roll:

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

so now all beta testers are AEG and affliated? Why would I mock MS if I "work" for them?
Or is it the other way around? do you "work" for ATI? looks like your intention is simply to blacklist all who oppose ATI and flame all threads that may not favor ATI..

I'm an architect.

My machine at work uses an nVidia quaddro card, but I rarely use its power as 99% of my work is 2D (I draw large site plans).

I don't have time to be a viral marketer. 😛

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

How about your 2000+ posts at Rage3D? :roll:

What about them? R3D is a fantastic place.

 

[thilanliyan]

guys, guys, Ronin SHOULD do the benchmarks. I mean how many of us have access to both a 512GTX AND a X1900XTX? If I had both cards I certainly would put up a review also. He should do them with all the latest drivers + patches.

 

[cirrhosis]

I know I'd love to see these benchies, Ronin. If this is really going to be as expansive as I think it is, I can't wait. Get to work!
🙂

 

[Matt2]

this thread is amazing. What a waste of an opportunity.

I wonder how many other hardware forums create threads linking to our useless pissing matches like this and say, "Thank god I dont post there!" 🙁

 

[Jules]

to bad.

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I will take your numbers with a grain of salt. A known staunch nVidia supporter to do proper benchmarking of an ATI card?

If someone like Matthias or XTKnight did this, I would be willing to trust it. But you? No thanks... :thumbsdown:

stop flaming. If you don't like this topic, please get out.
btw, I'd trust XTKnight.. only.

Oh well to bad.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: thilan29
guys, guys, Ronin SHOULD do the benchmarks. I mean how many of us have access to both a 512GTX AND a X1900XTX? If I had both cards I certainly would put up a review also. He should do them with all the latest drivers + patches.

Well, we may not have access to the cards but reviewers do, and there are already numerous reviews out there benchmarking these two cards againt eachother.

 

[Ronin]

Oh, you mean all those reviews that everyone pits against each other, and bitches and moans about, because this or that game wasn't tested, this or that resolution wasn't tested, this or that setting wasn't tested.

Those are the ones you're talking about, right?

 

[biostud]

Solitare @ max settings, 3 draw, Vegas scoring

 

[Leper Messiah]

JESUS FSCKING CHRIST I'M SICK OF THE BULLSHIT!


Seriously. All of you just STFU for a second. Joker, Sick Beast, you're nearly as bad as Rollo for this crap. Someone has offered to do you a great service, and all you can do is sit there and flame him because he doesn't slant in your direction?! If I was a mod, I'd be cleaning house so hardcore right now... :| 😀igust;
[/rant]

Hey Ronin...I'm for one curious about the OC results for each, if you've got the time, can you see the % increase on core/memory for each and what that correlates into for RL performance? And I sincerely appologize for the actions and words of my peers. If I were in your position, I would consider not posting here anymore.

 

[biostud]

I would like to see FEAR with soft shadows enabled.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.

An nVZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...

havn't you had enough already flaming threads already? the guy is simply suggesting a hands-on comparison of 2 of the fastest cards on the market right now, why must you start the flame? obviously neither your bias nor his belong to this thread.

Begger, no matter how much sucking up you do, I don't think they'll admit you into the AEG program after this scandal.

He's already admitted to being in the AEG program. He "beta tests" for Microsoft.

so now all beta testers are AEG and affliated? Why would I mock MS if I "work" for them?
Or is it the other way around? do you "work" for ATI? looks like your intention is simply to blacklist all who oppose ATI and flame all threads that may not favor ATI..

I'm an architect.

My machine at work uses an nVidia quaddro card, but I rarely use its power as 99% of my work is 2D (I draw large site plans).

I don't have time to be a viral marketer. 😛

Same here. so STOP calling other people viral marketers.

 

[GOREGRINDER]

there needs to be a button on the top of every thread " click here to cut the bullshit and read the subject" cuz some of you guys really just loove bein such huge flamers:disgust: