X1900XTX vs 512MB GTX

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CP5670

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Would be nice to have some minimum framerate readings for, well, everything that most sites benchmark these days. :)
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: apoppin
i don't have a problem with your benchs and don't have any special requests EXCEPT to note the difference in "noise" levels between the 512GTX and the XTX at their 'stages'.

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

lol
 

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Black and White 2 patch 1.2 came out just very recently, it supposedly gives ATI a big boost. I'd certainly make sure that is used if B&W2 testing is done.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

Better idea. The two of you show up in Denver, I take you for a spin around the block in the stang. Afterwards both parties agree that the X1900XT, 7800GT 512, jet airplanes and freight trains are all absolutely noisless in operation.

At least while your ears are still ringing.
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Not crapping, just giving a heads-up to those that don't know who he is or what his agenda is about. I wonder if Sony condones their hardware being used for review purposes on forums?

No, what you're being is an outright dick, and you don't know WHAT premise my cards arrive for. As with ArchAngel, if you can't be civil in my thread, leave.

My AGENDA is stated very clearly in the original post, nitwit. Now go banter ATi crap to someone who's willing to listen to you (like, I don't know..go back to the AEG thread or something).

You have serious issues, bud. Work them out.
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: apoppin
i don't have a problem with your benchs and don't have any special requests EXCEPT to note the difference in "noise" levels between the 512GTX and the XTX at their 'stages'.

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

LOL.

I'll put that a little lower on the list, but I'll see what I can do. :p

I do have access to a professional sound room, however. Perhaps that would be the best place for it to be done.
 

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Not crapping, just giving a heads-up to those that don't know who he is or what his agenda is about. I wonder if Sony condones their hardware being used for review purposes on forums?

No, what you're being is an outright dick, and you don't know WHAT premise my cards arrive for. As with ArchAngel, if you can't be civil in my thread, leave.

My AGENDA is stated very clearly in the original post, nitwit. Now go banter ATi crap to someone who's willing to listen to you (like, I don't know..go back to the AEG thread or something).

You have serious issues, bud. Work them out.

Nothing I posted was false - you work for Sony and they happen to be an nVidia client for PS3. You have a strong nVidia bias and make it clearly evident and known. You have hardware given to Sony by both companies and are using it for personal reviews on a public forum. Lastly, you are a moderator for nVidia's nZone forums. Is any of that false? Feel free to correct me and what's with the name calling?

 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: apoppin
i don't have a problem with your benchs and don't have any special requests EXCEPT to note the difference in "noise" levels between the 512GTX and the XTX at their 'stages'.

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

LOL.

I'll put that a little lower on the list, but I'll see what I can do. :p

I do have access to a professional sound room, however. Perhaps that would be the best place for it to be done.

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. I can't wait to see if the ATI card is 6db or 8db louder! :Q
 

Ronin

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1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: apoppin
i don't have a problem with your benchs and don't have any special requests EXCEPT to note the difference in "noise" levels between the 512GTX and the XTX at their 'stages'.

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

LOL.

I'll put that a little lower on the list, but I'll see what I can do. :p

I do have access to a professional sound room, however. Perhaps that would be the best place for it to be done.

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. I can't wait to see if the ATI card is 6db or 8db louder! :Q

Why must you mock me? :( :p
 

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Originally posted by: Ronin
1. You *think* I work for Sony. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
2. As I said before, my reception of hardware, and what it's intended use is, is really none of your business. If you don't think that ATi and nVIDIA want a true enthusiast putting their products through the paces, you're daft (and if you don't think I've had discussions about temps when cards are overclocked, or other issues SPECIFIC to tweaking cards, you're even more daft).

Why you've chosen to turn this into some sort of idiotic thread about ME is beyond me, but stop wasting everyone else's time.

It's not namecalling if it's true. Those words then become adjectives. Descriptors. And I think they're aptly put.

Now ah heck off to your biased threads, since we all know where YOU stand. At least I can say that I've offered up an unbiased stance between the 2 cards.



An nZone moderator claiming he's unbiased? Come on man...
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: apoppin
i don't have a problem with your benchs and don't have any special requests EXCEPT to note the difference in "noise" levels between the 512GTX and the XTX at their 'stages'.

You probably don't have a sound meter but could you record and post some sound clips taken at similar distances and at the same recording levels from each [closed or open] case.

then i can stop the endless discussion with Keys ;)
:thumbsup:

please

LOL.

I'll put that a little lower on the list, but I'll see what I can do. :p

I do have access to a professional sound room, however. Perhaps that would be the best place for it to be done.

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. I can't wait to see if the ATI card is 6db or 8db louder! :Q

Why must you mock me? :( :p

I'm not mocking you.

apoppin and keysplayr had a huge tiff over 2 decibels.

They hijacked a thread about it and posted probably 200 pages worth of endless banter on the matter.

Oh yeah, can you please subjectively tell us if you think the ATI card is "twice as loud"?

Also, if it's not "twice as loud", could you tell us if it's "considerably louder"? :)

Thanks dude. You're in QA, you should be very good at this stuff. :beer:
 

Ronin

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You're aware that if ATi had forums, I'd likely be a moderator there as well (already been discussed several times right here in these forums)? Using that as a basis for a biased information provision is silly. Any other arguments you want to throw out there? I suppose you're going to lump me in and say I'm AEG contracted, too?
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
I'm not mocking you.

apoppin and keysplayr had a huge tiff over 2 decibels.

They hijacked a thread about it and posted probably 200 pages worth of endless banter on the matter.

Oh yeah, can you please subjectively tell us if you think the ATI card is "twice as loud"?

Also, if it's not "twice as loud", could you tell us if it's "considerably louder"? :)

Thanks dude. You're in QA, you should be very good at this stuff. :beer:

1. I'm aware of the thread, so I knew what the request was about.
2. You people think you've nailed me to a wall about my employer and what I do. I've admitted nothing. Drop it.
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker


Nothing I posted was false - you work for Sony and they happen to be an nVidia client for PS3. You have a strong nVidia bias and make it clearly evident and known. You have hardware given to Sony by both companies and are using it for personal reviews on a public forum. Lastly, you are a moderator for nVidia's nvZone forums. Is any of that false? Feel free to correct me and what's with the name calling?

Zing!
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Ronin
You're aware that if ATi had forums, I'd likely be a moderator there as well (already been discussed several times right here in these forums)? Using that as a basis for a biased information provision is silly. Any other arguments you want to throw out there? I suppose you're going to lump me in and say I'm AEG contracted, too?

No I won't say you're an AEG agent because I don't speculate on such things. I just go by what I know: You presumably work for Sony (name and position fit), moderate nVidia's nZone forums, post with a strong nV slant and your employer receives hardware from both companies. I don't see why you'd be angry with me being skeptical about your neutrality after presenting the facts. That said, please, feel free to do your review I'm not trying to stop you nor resorting to infantile name calling.
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Not crapping, just giving a heads-up to those that don't know who he is or what his agenda is about. I wonder if Sony condones their hardware being used for review purposes on forums?

No, what you're being is an outright dick, and you don't know WHAT premise my cards arrive for. As with ArchAngel, if you can't be civil in my thread, leave.

My AGENDA is stated very clearly in the original post, nitwit. Now go banter ATi crap to someone who's willing to listen to you (like, I don't know..go back to the AEG thread or something).

You have serious issues, bud. Work them out.

Nothing I posted was false - you work for Sony and they happen to be an nVidia client for PS3. You have a strong nVidia bias and make it clearly evident and known. You have hardware given to Sony by both companies and are using it for personal reviews on a public forum. Lastly, you are a moderator for nVidia's nvZone forums. Is any of that false? Feel free to correct me and what's with the name calling?


None of this is relevant. It will be easy enough to verify his benches from comparison to other sites, for anyone with any sense.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Not crapping, just giving a heads-up to those that don't know who he is or what his agenda is about. I wonder if Sony condones their hardware being used for review purposes on forums?

No, what you're being is an outright dick, and you don't know WHAT premise my cards arrive for. As with ArchAngel, if you can't be civil in my thread, leave.

My AGENDA is stated very clearly in the original post, nitwit. Now go banter ATi crap to someone who's willing to listen to you (like, I don't know..go back to the AEG thread or something).

You have serious issues, bud. Work them out.

Nothing I posted was false - you work for Sony and they happen to be an nVidia client for PS3. You have a strong nVidia bias and make it clearly evident and known. You have hardware given to Sony by both companies and are using it for personal reviews on a public forum. Lastly, you are a moderator for nVidia's nvZone forums. Is any of that false? Feel free to correct me and what's with the name calling?


None of this is relevant. It will be easy enough to verify his benches from comparison to other sites, for anyone with any sense.

Sorry OP, I couldn't stay out of this thread after this comment.

If we simply are going to compare them against known reviews, what is the point of having this review then? :confused:

 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Ronin
You're aware that if ATi had forums, I'd likely be a moderator there as well (already been discussed several times right here in these forums)? Using that as a basis for a biased information provision is silly. Any other arguments you want to throw out there? I suppose you're going to lump me in and say I'm AEG contracted, too?

No I won't say you're an AEG agent because I don't speculate on such things. I just go by what I know: You presumably work for Sony (name and position fit), moderate nVidia's nVZone forums, post with a strong nV slant and your employer receives hardware from both companies.

And yet you speculate on OTHER such things? Man, that's just funny. The only thing you're 100% right with is the fact that I moderate the nZone forums.

BTW, I bet you money you can find several posts where I've given ATi it's due.

Now, really, let it go. I'm sure there's another thread you can post in without muddling up mine.
 

M0RPH

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Ronin, some of us have seen the page that clearly shows what you do and who you work for. I won't post the link again, becase I think you're entitled to your privacy. But if you're under the impression that you've kept your secret from everyone, you're mistaken.

 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Sorry OP, I couldn't stay out of this thread after this comment.

If we simply are going to compare them against known reviews, what is the point of having this review then? :confused:

It's a valid question. What you choose to do with my results is up to you. If you use them to comapre to other sites, that's your perogative.

I will tell you that I'm fairly well versed in benchmarking, and I expect that when all is said and done, it's going to take me 2-3 days to compile my results. The question then becomes whether or not the fiance will lop off my head while I'm doing it. ;) :p
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Ronin, some of us have seen the page that clearly shows what you do and who you work for. I won't post the link again, becase I think you're entitled to your privacy. But if you're under the impression that you've kept your secret from everyone, you're mistaken.

You're referring to that silly link to MobyGames? *rollseyes*
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I'm not mocking you.

apoppin and keysplayr had a huge tiff over 2 decibels.

They hijacked a thread about it and posted probably 200 pages worth of endless banter on the matter.

Oh yeah, can you please subjectively tell us if you think the ATI card is "twice as loud"?

Also, if it's not "twice as loud", could you tell us if it's "considerably louder"? :)

Thanks dude. You're in QA, you should be very good at this stuff. :beer:

1. I'm aware of the thread, so I knew what the request was about.
2. You people think you've nailed me to a wall about my employer and what I do. I've admitted nothing. Drop it.

I don't think Ryan Antonelli would be happy about you pretending to be him.

On top of that, myself and other members are wondering what a Harvard grad is doing playing videogames for his living.

Harvard is a school full of preppy schoolboys.

You post like someone out of a back alley in the Bronx.

Not only that but your grammar is terrible. I'm tempted to search the alumni.
 

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If at all possible could you do some testing of CCC to see how bloated it actually it is, although most people use ATI tray tools CCC is such a contentious issue I'd like something slightly more definitive.