X1800XT w/ATI MoBO or 7800GT SLI w/nVidia MoBo ?

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rajs

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Been reading here for a while and now looking at the following issue --

A) Get a single X1800XT and down the road do crossfire on it. This should give me better performance then my "old" 7800 GTX 256 MB. Issue though is what MoBo that supports ATI Crossfire and is stable and good at OC'ing, etc.

B) Or on the NVIDIA side get a ASUS of DFI SLI mobo and get two 7800 GT cards and put them into SLI mode -- since the 7800GTX's 512 MB are impossible to find and I'll get better perf and cheaper using 2 7800GT's instead.

Which option would you recommed A or B and then what MOBO to go with it.

Thanks

- raj
 
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rajs

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Read through the thread and As I've been reading more and more on the forums tonight -- it seems like it is coming down to the following -

I know the nVidia SLI solution is more elegant but the ATI X1800XT card (Single) just by itself seems to be pretty good ... if not better then my "old" single nVidia 7800 GTX 256 MB card.

So I guess I really need to be deciding on the following then:

Either go with nVidia NFORCE4 SLI MoBo such as a DFI or ASUS and get two 7800 GT cards and pony up the $$$

or

get a SINGLE X1800XT card with a ASUS or DFI Mobo based on the ATI chipset ... since the ATI Crossfire solution seems pretty messy right now.

The question comes down to which of the above two would serve me best for BF2 and DOD:Source at 1920x1200 using a Dell 24" 2405 LCD monitor. I would like to use the highest possible AA / AF and when available HDR.
 
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rajs ... Nvdiai and ATI are going to launch new product and declare all out pricing war by late jan so i would just wait... your current system is real powerful and i have used an sli and crossfire and i don't really seem to find what so great about without looking at benchmarking score.

I would just get a R580 X1900XL which should be fast or G71 7800U
 
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Originally posted by: rajs
Read through the thread and As I've been reading more and more on the forums tonight -- it seems like it is coming down to the following -

I know the nVidia SLI solution is more elegant but the ATI X1800XT card (Single) just by itself seems to be pretty good ... if not better then my "old" single nVidia 7800 GTX 256 MB card.

So I guess I really need to be deciding on the following then:

Either go with nVidia NFORCE4 SLI MoBo such as a DFI or ASUS and get two 7800 GT cards and pony up the $$$

or

get a SINGLE X1800XT card with a ASUS or DFI Mobo based on the ATI chipset ... since the ATI Crossfire solution seems pretty messy right now.

The question comes down to which of the above two would serve me best for BF2 and DOD:Source at 1920x1200 using a Dell 24" 2405 LCD monitor. I would like to use the highest possible AA / AF and when available HDR.
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You forgot one option-

Get the X1800XT and put it on a nForce 4 motherboard?

Stay far away from that DFI Crossfire POS, HardOCP had many problems with it.

Anyway, I'd do what I mentioned above or get the 7800GTs. If you're going to keep this a while I'd lean toward the 7800GTs and trade the better fps in some circumstances for the HDR+AA (that has to be implemented by unavailable patches) and the angle independent AF.

To each their own though, I only play first person shooters, mainly online, and minimum fps beats HDR+AA for me.
 
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Originally posted by: Rollo

You forgot one option-

Get the X1800XT and put it on a nForce 4 motherboard?

Stay far away from that DFI Crossfire POS, HardOCP had many problems with it.

Anyway, I'd do what I mentioned above or get the 7800GTs. If you're going to keep this a while I'd lean toward the 7800GTs and trade the better fps in some circumstances for the HDR+AA (that has to be implemented by unavailable patches) and the angle independent AF.

To each their own though, I only play first person shooters, mainly online, and minimum fps beats HDR+AA for me.
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Rollo has good advice. The X1800XT will be a bit cheaper, but overall the 7800GTs are faster. Sometimes the hassle of SLI can be a pain (I know that 95% of the bugs have been worked out but it can still get a little annoying) but if you don't mind spending a little time at it you'll enjoy the speed. If you get the X1800XT, use it with an Nforce4 board as they are rock solid at this point. If you decide you want to go Crossfire in a few months (and prices are decent enough to justify that over a monster single card) than you can just sell the Nforce4 board and grab a Crossfire ready board. Hopefully most of the bugs will be worked out of them by then.

If you're not in a rush (sounds like you aren't with a GTX to play with) than I'd wait for ATI's and/or Nvidia's new offerings to come out within a month or so.
 
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My advice : get a machine like this :

*AMD opteron 165 1.8Ghz 1MB chache and that cpu can be oced 2.7Ghz + , Ijust bought one and i oced yesterday to 2.7Ghzish

Buy a good 1GB T1 RAM :) then buy another 1GB later when price fall down :)

Buy a awesome overclocking motherboard like DFI/Asus N4 ultra. I did have a look arround on forums and lchecked out Mittoni which is Australia's DFI Distributor. They say the new revision A02 works without anyproblem. but i be carefull.

if you rushing to buy a graphic card and can't wait a month for new product to hit the market then get ATI X1800XT :? why beacause extra ram can help later on when game require 512MB and better image qualty :) . AVIVO is still not the best but later on it should be awesome.

Also a nice case... i really like the new gigabyte case 3D AURORA chassis

Free tool box is cool and really awesome when installing water cooling system. its cheap and i think its great case for gigabyte to enter the market with. But ThermalRock Eclipse
Antec P-180 are also cool cases. I haven't read alot of cases for while but you buy a good one anyways

BenQ DW1640 this DVD-Writer is what i recommend highly best in market and cheap and good :) better than my Pioneer DVR-109

Must buy awesome gaming mouse. Wireless mouse are great now :

Logitech MX518 and Logitech G5 best wired gaming mouse
Logitech G7 best wireless mouse and better than MX1000 in a long shot :)

Buy a Nice 5.1 Speaker and if you end up getting crossfire mobo then you don't need to buy a soundcard as the onboard sound is great :)
 
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Originally posted by: rajs
Been reading here for a while and now looking at the following issue --

A) Get a single X1800XT and down the road do crossfire on it. This should give me better performance then my "old" 7800 GTX 256 MB. Issue though is what MoBo that supports ATI Crossfire and is stable and good at OC'ing, etc.

B) Or on the NVIDIA side get a ASUS of DFI SLI mobo and get two 7800 GT cards and put them into SLI mode -- since the 7800GTX's 512 MB are impossible to find and I'll get better perf and cheaper using 2 7800GT's instead.

Which option would you recommed A or B and then what MOBO to go with it.

Thanks

- raj
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Why not just get another GTX?
 
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Switching to X1800XT will make for an extremely expensive and unnecessary "upgrade," or horizontal-grade, if you will.

I was hoping my 7800GTs would last at least a year. I doubt that will happen, though.

And what's this about SLI being troublesome? I just got into SLI this year and haven't had any problems with it at all. I guess I missed SLI's teething phase.
 
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The option of adding a second card later has been discussed and argued for the most part of 2005, and despite the tempting option to add a second card later, it's usually a better idea to get a single newer card when you need more performance. So if a single x1800 can run all your games smooth, then get just one, and later on sell it and buy a newer, faster card.

But seeing how you plan to use a 1900x1200 resolution, single cards may not be enough, so if you want to go dual cards, you should get dual cards from the start. Dual 7800gt's in SLI seem like the best dual card solution for the price, so is you want to buy now, I'd get those. However, with the release of the r580 coming next month, I suggest you wait for a while and see how it stacks up against the competition. It may turn out faster than dual gt's and then you'll be glad you waited. And if it's not faster at least it may drive down NV's prices a bit, so you'd get a better deal on the gt's.
 
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rajs

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Wreckage


Why not just get another GTX?
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$$ probably.
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All -- Thanks for responses ... Reason I need to get a new Vid Card and MoBo is because I sold my entire system in my sig ... so no more 7800GTX 256 MB and no more EPoX mobo *grin*.

Since it is a friend of mine ... I'll be turning it over to him next week sometime ... so I wanted to order before then.
 
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As someone who purchased a 7800GTX 512 for 1920x1200 BF2 playing, I'd wait if possible for the X1900XT to come out by ATI.

I'm finding that my old x800xl provided better picture quality and experience w/out any tweaking compared to my 7800GTX 512. Yeah, I have a higher fps but b/c I'm using a LCD monitor, I need to set vsync in order to have no tearing. I'm still trying to figure out how to reduce the shimmering and weird artifacting(only thing to call it) where I didn't have any of these issues w/ my ATI card.

Plus, I find that there isn't an utility in the Nvidia world that compare to ATI Tool.

My two cents...
 
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