X1800XT HDR + AA beta patch Far Cry shots.

[crazydingo]

For that they need 2 512MB GTXs which as we know are very rare. :laugh: j/k

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: crazydingo
http://www.gzeasy.com/news/2005_12/11/ati_hdr_compare.png

That HDR X1800XT Crossfire preformace looks pretty dang good at 1600x1200 4XAA and 16xAF.

It does, but it's unfortunate they opted to only compare it to a version of SLI that will be out 6 months in a few days, and this version of Crossfire isn't even out yet. A real test would have been 512 GTX SLI vs 512 Crossfire, as those are the cards that both came out last month, and have the same amount of RAM, clocked much higher than was available way back in June.

Problem is 512 GTX Press Edition was a single run card that is basically no longer available. It also costs $200+ more than an XT so they aren't nearly in the same price category. The cheapest GTX on pricewatch is $450 which is within the XT's price range ($500) but the GTX lacks the additional 256 mb ram the XT has. Although crossfire master cards arent even out yet so it's not like ATi has crossfire ready.

 

[Yreka]

Wow, those look fantastic. Any chance Nvidia doing something like this with drivers, or is it a hardware limitation ?

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: Yreka
Wow, those look fantastic. Any chance Nvidia doing something like this with drivers, or is it a hardware limitation ?

Hardware limitation.

 

[Sc4freak]

Originally posted by: Yreka
Wow, those look fantastic. Any chance Nvidia doing something like this with drivers, or is it a hardware limitation ?

HDR + AA and Angle-independant AF are both hardware limitations, I think. (Don't quote me on that)

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: crazydingo
http://www.gzeasy.com/news/2005_12/11/ati_hdr_compare.png

That HDR X1800XT Crossfire preformace looks pretty dang good at 1600x1200 4XAA and 16xAF.

It does, but it's unfortunate they opted to only compare it to a version of SLI that will be out 6 months in a few days, and this version of Crossfire isn't even out yet. A real test would have been 512 GTX SLI vs 512 Crossfire, as those are the cards that both came out last month, and have the same amount of RAM, clocked much higher than was available way back in June.

Age is a non-factor, and prices are much closer these days between the 7800GTX and X1800XT; the 512MB GTX is rare and $750 a pop. While a comparison with the 512MB GTX would be nice to see, 512MB GTX is a very difficult setup to run these days, with both cost and availability limiting people's options tremendously.

Originally posted by: sodcha0s
Personally, I like the HL2 HDR better, much more realistic. The colors on the Farcry shots are oversaturated.

That's the look they went for, since Far Cry is already an extremely lush and over-the-top visual experience, HDR takes it a step further. Having played both HL2 HDR and Far Cry HDR extensively, the Far Cry implementation of HDR looks much better IMO. Far Cry is one of the only games to use true FP Blending HDR, which is AFAIK 64-bit internal colour rendering (mixed with the bloom effect, of course), unlike HL2 which is more of a clever algorithm that immitates HDR (plus bloom).

The one thing with Far Cry HDR the last I played it (the latest Far Cry patch, but not the unreleased new patch) is that it is still way overdone in some scenarios - even with lots of tweaking! Plus the performance hit is just huge; they are showing previews on an X1800XT because that's what it takes to get those kinds of framerates with HDR; my 7800GT went from 60-80 fps averages without HDR (1680X1050) to 30's with HDR.

Those screenshots look promising and hopefully show that Crytek has tweaked HDR to more believable levels; also hopefully they fixed the bugs with HDR (lights leaking through some walls in certain instances and Cryvision not working properly, to name a couple).

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: crazydingo
http://www.gzeasy.com/news/2005_12/11/ati_hdr_compare.png

That HDR X1800XT Crossfire preformace looks pretty dang good at 1600x1200 4XAA and 16xAF.

It does, but it's unfortunate they opted to only compare it to a version of SLI that will be out 6 months in a few days, and this version of Crossfire isn't even out yet. A real test would have been 512 GTX SLI vs 512 Crossfire, as those are the cards that both came out last month, and have the same amount of RAM, clocked much higher than was available way back in June.

Problem is 512 GTX Press Edition was a single run card that is basically no longer available. It also costs $200+ more than an XT so they aren't nearly in the same price category. The cheapest GTX on pricewatch is $450 which is within the XT's price range ($500) but the GTX lacks the additional 256 mb ram the XT has. Although crossfire master cards arent even out yet so it's not like ATi has crossfire ready.

Before nVidia launched the 512GTX, and for a while after, everyone who was an ATI fan at all was suggesting we compare the X1800XT to the 256 GTX, even though it was $150+ more expensive, came out 5 months later, and had double the RAM?

It's hard to say anything about X1800Crossfire because it's not available yet, and while those graphs of HDR are impressive, AFAIK the X1800XT has big rendering errors on the Serious Sam2 at least.

 

[Ackmed]

Crossfire cards are available; http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190265

* bloom effect now works properly in HDR mode on ATI X1000 series boards (no more pixelization)

From SS2 patch readme

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: crazydingo
http://www.gzeasy.com/news/2005_12/11/ati_hdr_compare.png

That HDR X1800XT Crossfire preformace looks pretty dang good at 1600x1200 4XAA and 16xAF.

It does, but it's unfortunate they opted to only compare it to a version of SLI that will be out 6 months in a few days, and this version of Crossfire isn't even out yet. A real test would have been 512 GTX SLI vs 512 Crossfire, as those are the cards that both came out last month, and have the same amount of RAM, clocked much higher than was available way back in June.

Problem is 512 GTX Press Edition was a single run card that is basically no longer available. It also costs $200+ more than an XT so they aren't nearly in the same price category. The cheapest GTX on pricewatch is $450 which is within the XT's price range ($500) but the GTX lacks the additional 256 mb ram the XT has. Although crossfire master cards arent even out yet so it's not like ATi has crossfire ready.

im sorry but i dont think its fair to say its a press edition card. nvidia released this card and intended it to be sold as a package with its new NF4 SLIx16 motherboards to companies that make high end PC's ie alienware, voodoo, falcon etc. im not entirely sure it was targeted at single unit sale. either way people were able to buy them pretty much on release which is more than can be said for ATI's cards which get paper launched, then the few cards sent out for review end up on ebay for insane amounts of cash, before finally becoming available when its too late.

they had cards out to buy in the same week as announcement....i just think they underestimated the demand