X1800XL or 7800GT

[chrisdaemz]

I'm having a really difficult time deciding between these two:

X1800XL

7800GT

The X1800XL is only 20$ more expensive. Which should I get? I've seen comparissons on Tom's hardware but I can't make up my mind...

Grtz

 

[MBrown]

7800gt

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: MBrown
7800gt

 

[videopho]

Originally posted by: chrisdaemz
I'm having a really difficult time deciding between these two:

X1800XL

7800GT

The X1800XL is only 20$ more expensive. Which should I get? I've seen comparissons on Tom's hardware but I can't make up my mind...

Grtz

Same choice I had. Went with 7800gt due to several reasons:
1) better deal (much better= mid $200'ish)
2) less power consumption, means running cooler
3) nvidia has better driver (much better, imo)
Have had since 11/30 now and couldn't be happier.

 

[McArra]

7800GT, I was in the same dilenma and went for the XFX 7800GT Gamer Edition.... arrives this week (I hope)

 

[Elfear]

If you plan on ocing your card I'd give the nod for the X1800XL, if not than go for the 7800GT. At stock the 7800GT is a tad faster but once oced the X1800XL really makes for the better deal.

Originally posted by: videopho

Same choice I had. Went with 7800gt due to several reasons:
1) better deal (much better= mid $200'ish)
2) less power consumption, means running cooler
3) nvidia has better driver (much better, imo)
Have had since 11/30 now and couldn't be happier.

1) Not a very valid point if the price difference for the OP is $20.
2) On most people's priority list for a good video card that probably ranks like near last. Raw performance and image quality generally outweigh power consumption by a long shot.
3) I've used drivers from both companies and honestly the ATI ones gave me less hassle, although both companies do a good job IMO.

 

[xtknight]

7800GT slightly beats the X1800XL from the benches I saw in MaxPC, so I went ahead and grabbed it. It also beats the X1800XT (yes, XT) overall by 6 FPS in THG's benches for what it's worth.

 

[phaxmohdem]

I too would go for the 7800GT, I don't know even why, but I am very skeptical of the x1800 series, even though I've seen the benches like everyone else, I just don't like them for some reason, and I'm in no way a fanboi of either company, current card in my main rig is ATI as seen in my sig. Whatever floats your boat though.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: xtknight
7800GT slightly beats the X1800XL from the benches I saw in MaxPC, so I went ahead and grabbed it. It also beats the X1800XT (yes, XT) overall by 6 FPS in THG's benches for what it's worth.

Which game was that, AOEIII or something? Your post implies that 7800GT is overall faster than the X1800XT which is pretty far from the truth. The X1800XT pummels the 256MB GTX, let alone the GT.

 

[videopho]

2) On most people's priority list for a good video card that probably ranks like near last. Raw performance and image quality generally outweigh power consumption by a long shot.

Duh Why would one buy a new video card knowing his/her psu is insuffificent?
If anything, power consumption should rank near top when shopping for a new video cards and I'm talking about high performance cards in general. Otherwise you may have to think about a new psu upgrade.

 

[tvdang7]

xl better overclock plus its getting close to gt prices. GT stock xl for u overclockers.

 

[Nextman916]

shoot get which ever one looks cooler

 

[Wreckage]

The GT has better overall performance than the XL. I have even seen bechmarks where it beats a $550 XT. (Age Of Empires III, Pacific Fighters, Black & White 2).

 

[CKXP]

Originally posted by: Nextman916
shoot get which ever one looks cooler

can't get much cooler looking than this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150124

7800gt for sure.

 

[McArra]

OC in X1800XL is not that good. It uses the cores that suffered from leakage... is not the same core as the XT.
Also Mhz per Mhz 16pipes vs 20 really make a diference, you have to clock XL about 33% faster than the GT to reach the GT which is not easy.

If you were to choose from GTX and XT, I would say XT.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: McArra
OC in X1800XL is not that good. It uses the cores that suffered from leakage... is not the same core as the XT.
Also Mhz per Mhz 16pipes vs 20 really make a diference, you have to clock XL about 33% faster than the GT to reach the GT which is not easy.

If you were to choose from GTX and XT, I would say XT.

I don't think ATI (or their vendors) are using the screwy cores for the X1800XLs anymore (heard somewhere they never did). Check out all the X1800XL results over at Xtreme sometime. I know they're not what every joe shmoe is going to achieve but it shows the potential of these cards. Most GTs that I've seen generally top out at 470-500 on the core and 1100-1200 on the memory without resorting to voltmods. From what I've read it looks like 600 on the core and 1400 on the memory isn't hard at all for the X1800XLs, and at those speeds it would beat a 7800GT at 485/1150 (if you average out results of 7800GT owners).

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Both perform pretty much equally in most games (I'm talking real-world performance here, not pure FPS) so I would choose the one with the better feature set/IQ which would be the X1800XL . . .

 

[Captante]

Based on a look at the benchmarks on THG & a few other sites, I can only find a few tests where the X1800XT comes out on top of the 7800GTX, although frankly I don't know if I'd buy either one myself right now since my 6800GT is still hanging in there, so I'm going to sit tight for one more product cycle. If I had to choose right now though, I'd go with the 7800GT ... preferably the copper heatsink EVGA model.

 

[CKXP]

Originally posted by: chrisdaemz
I'm having a really difficult time deciding between these two:

X1800XL

7800GT

The X1800XL is only 20$ more expensive. Which should I get? I've seen comparissons on Tom's hardware but I can't make up my mind...

Grtz

hey chrisdaemz, just flip a coin, heads 7800gt, tails x1800xl.....a lot of mixed opinions here, both are good cards, both have their strengths and weakness...after all it's your $

 

[imported_thefonz]

XL= Better image quility
GT= Better deal

Edit: 20 denaro is not that much i'd go with the XL

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: CKXP

Originally posted by: chrisdaemz
I'm having a really difficult time deciding between these two:

X1800XL

7800GT

The X1800XL is only 20$ more expensive. Which should I get? I've seen comparissons on Tom's hardware but I can't make up my mind...

Grtz

hey OP, just flip a coin, heads 7800gt, tails x1800xl.....a lot of mixed opinions here, both are good cards, both have their strengths and weakness...after all it's your $

Agreed. Flip a coin.
But these facts should be considered:
1)The 7800GT is slightly faster than the X1800XL (but much faster in OpenGL games like Chronicle of riddick, Pacific fighters, and AOE3 while the XL is abit faster in Farcry, SC CT, BF2)
2)The GT is alot cooler, consumes less power compared to the XL.
3)Both are single slot.
4)The X1800XL will give you a better AF in terms of HQ AF (angle indepedent). But still the 7800GT will give you a better AA IQ (TR/SSAA) compared to ATi.
5)Both will give you dual GPU upgrade option in terms of SLI for NV and Crossfire for XL, but SLi will be alot more cheaper compared to crossfire. (Xl can only be crossfired using the X1800XT CF)
6)Drivers from both teams are up to high standard.
7)Digital Vibrance for both cards.
8)Pure Video/AVIVO. AVIVO is better compared to pure video but pure video has a feature than gets rid of ghosting on your LCD monitor. Both provide excellent quality DVD playback.
9)Both cards are OCable.
10)Some XLs are known to be using faulty XT cores, but fear not as most XLs use the new fixed cores.

My 2 cents

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: McArra
OC in X1800XL is not that good. It uses the cores that suffered from leakage... is not the same core as the XT.
Also Mhz per Mhz 16pipes vs 20 really make a diference, you have to clock XL about 33% faster than the GT to reach the GT which is not easy.

If you were to choose from GTX and XT, I would say XT.

I don't think ATI (or their vendors) are using the screwy cores for the X1800XLs anymore (heard somewhere they never did). Check out all the X1800XL results over at Xtreme sometime. I know they're not what every joe shmoe is going to achieve but it shows the potential of these cards. Most GTs that I've seen generally top out at 470-500 on the core and 1100-1200 on the memory without resorting to voltmods. From what I've read it looks like 600 on the core and 1400 on the memory isn't hard at all for the X1800XLs, and at those speeds it would beat a 7800GT at 485/1150 (if you average out results of 7800GT owners).

rawr...my 7800GT does 526/1215 on stock. Evga for the win I suppose.

 

[golem]

Good points

Agreed. Flip a coin.
But these facts should be considered:
1)The 7800GT is slightly faster than the X1800XL (but much faster in OpenGL games like Chronicle of riddick, Pacific fighters, and AOE3 while the XL is abit faster in Farcry, SC CT, BF2)
2)The GT is alot cooler, consumes less power compared to the XL.
3)Both are single slot.
4)The X1800XL will give you a better AF in terms of HQ AF (angle indepedent). But still the 7800GT will give you a better AA IQ (TR/SSAA) compared to ATi.
5)Both will give you dual GPU upgrade option in terms of SLI for NV and Crossfire for XL, but SLi will be alot more cheaper compared to crossfire. (Xl can only be crossfired using the X1800XT CF)
6)Drivers from both teams are up to high standard.
7)Digital Vibrance for both cards.
8)Pure Video/AVIVO. AVIVO is better compared to pure video but pure video has a feature than gets rid of ghosting on your LCD monitor. Both provide excellent quality DVD playback.
9)Both cards are OCable.
10)Some XLs are known to be using faulty XT cores, but fear not as most XLs use the new fixed cores.

My 2 cents

 

[the splat in the hat]

l went with a 7800gtx and l wish l had bough an 1800, lve seen the difference and someone said it before but overclocked the ATI card is the way to go, and drivers havent been an issue for ATI now for a couple of years, they have come along way, 64 bit will be interesting once again, but l wish l had gone for the 1800 !

The 7800 is a great card though , and lve had no driver or dramas with it, its justy a hassle to overclock and not as flexible in that area ...

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

rawr...my 7800GT does 526/1215 on stock. Evga for the win I suppose.

Your card would be an exception then. Both my cards topped out at 460-475 on the core and 1100-1200 on the memory which seems to be inline with most of the results I've seen. I needed voltmods and H2O to hit 550 on the core and 1300 on the memory.