X1800 GTO is 500/1000 MHz

[Gamer X]

Inquirer article
ATI has a card to fight Nvidia's up and coming G73 based Geforce 7600 card. The card will be clocked at the same speeds as X1800 XL cards. The only difference will be the pipeline count. Radeon X1800 GTO will have twelve pipelines and core clocked at 500MHz and memory clocked to 1000MHz.
The card will cost as much as Nvidia charges for the 6800 GS now. Its suggested retail price is set to $249 and we believe that Nvidia's Geforce 7600 should be priced about the same. We don?t know which of the two will be faster. We expect to see these cards at CeBIT and they will ship in the second half of March.

I hope that someone like Sapphire will find a way to unlock the additional pipes to repeat its previous GTO success. It's all a matter of the BIOS, we reckon. µ

 

[Steelski]

Might be the card to entice people into the fray............................................ Nice, I would consider it very muchski

 

[tvdang7]

just buy a freaking x1800 xl!

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: tvdang7
just buy a freaking x1800 xl!

what...for $250?

Then i would be jumping out my skin to get it.

 

[Cooler]

GTO might "unlock" and if so that would be great

I also heard of a GTO2 comming as well and that one will unlock.

 

[Munky]

By 12 "pipelines" do they mean 36 PS, 12 TMU? Or do they even know the difference? If it is a r580 with one quad disabled, it would lead to some interesting performance results from a $250 card.

 

[tvdang7]

wait is it a r580 core? just calleed x1800?

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: tvdang7
wait is it a r580 core? just calleed x1800?

I heard it was the r590 with the 80nm die shrink so im gessing its based on r580.

 

[coldpower27]

I bet these are leftover R520 cores, it would be extremely confusing to the product line to have some X1800's with 3:1 TMU ratios and most do not.

 

[Hacp]

Yes, I'm also willing to bet that they are leftover 520 cores. Those cores didn't sell well at all, and ATI is probably looking to dump inventory

 

[shabby]

The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I heard r590 is 80nm. even 2 alu's would be sweet for 250

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I doubt it is the R590 core, that core would most likely be reserved for Radeon X1900 XL.

ATI isn't all that likely to have that many defective R590 cores this early, I don't think the stock is built up to launch such a product yet.

 

[shabby]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I doubt it is the R590 core, that core would most likely be reserved for Radeon X1900 XL.

ATI isn't all that likely to have that many defective R590 cores this early, I don't think the stock is built up to launch such a product yet.

http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=804

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: shabby

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I doubt it is the R590 core, that core would most likely be reserved for Radeon X1900 XL.

ATI isn't all that likely to have that many defective R590 cores this early, I don't think the stock is built up to launch such a product yet.

http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=804

Well will be interesting to see, if it is based on R590 and R590 is based on R580 they should have named it X1900 GTO. But will be interesting to see.

 

[Pete]

I'm also guessing any X1800 will be leftover R520 cores, so one shader ALU per pipe. I doubt we'll see a process-shrunk R590 so soon, and I also doubt ATI would bin R580s into the X1800 name. It'd be more logical to sell them as X1900GTOs.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Pete
I'm also guessing any X1800 will be leftover R520 cores, so one shader ALU per pipe. I doubt we'll see a process-shrunk R590 so soon, and I also doubt ATI would bin R580s into the X1800 name. It'd be more logical to sell them as X1900GTOs.

The day ATI releases the X1900GTO, I'm buying it.

 

[the Chase]

Originally posted by: Pete
I'm also guessing any X1800 will be leftover R520 cores, so one shader ALU per pipe. I doubt we'll see a process-shrunk R590 so soon, and I also doubt ATI would bin R580s into the X1800 name. It'd be more logical to sell them as X1900GTOs.

I agree- I think someone got their numbers mixed up and a couple of others took the story and ran with it.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I doubt it is the R590 core, that core would most likely be reserved for Radeon X1900 XL.

ATI isn't all that likely to have that many defective R590 cores this early, I don't think the stock is built up to launch such a product yet.

Who said they had to be defective? Ati's future strategy seems to focus on totally replacing the r520 line with te r580 line and it's derivatives, so it could be the r580 with a disabled quad ot two. Ati appears to be shifting all their high end and midrage products to the shader-heavy design philosophy, so I would expect exactly the same 3:1 PS:TMU ratio as found on the r580.

 

[Sunrise089]

If the card (and I doubt it will be) is X1900 based it could be a great deal, although a X1800GTO that is based on the X1900 coming before an X1900XL seems weird, as does the naming.

On the other hand if its X1800 based, which seems likely, this probably won't be that hot. $250 is a decent drop from the X1800XL, but the 7800GT is now available for $250AR, and would severly defeat a X1800XL with one quad gone.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Sunrise089
If the card (and I doubt it will be) is X1900 based it could be a great deal, although a X1800GTO that is based on the X1900 coming before an X1900XL seems weird, as does the naming.

On the other hand if its X1800 based, which seems likely, this probably won't be that hot. $250 is a decent drop from the X1800XL, but the 7800GT is now available for $250AR, and would severly defeat a X1800XL with one quad gone.

Well, this card will be a competitor to the Geforce 7600 GT or Geforce 6800 GS, and from that standpoint it looks to have the potential, to do very well, since the 6800 GS has dropped to as low as 159-169US from an MSRP 249US this card should have the potential to do the same. Also 249US MSRP for 6.0GP of Fillrate paried with 256Bit Memory Interface is ~ 7800 GS level, so I think this card has the correct MSRP.

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: shabby
The x1800 gto is a 12pipe r590 core, not sure if its 80nm or 90nm but its based on the r580. Also not sure how many alu's it has.
But if it has 3 alu's like the x1900 then it should be a pretty sweet card for 250 bucks.

I doubt it is the R590 core, that core would most likely be reserved for Radeon X1900 XL.

ATI isn't all that likely to have that many defective R590 cores this early, I don't think the stock is built up to launch such a product yet.

Who said they had to be defective? Ati's future strategy seems to focus on totally replacing the r520 line with te r580 line and it's derivatives, so it could be the r580 with a disabled quad ot two. Ati appears to be shifting all their high end and midrage products to the shader-heavy design philosophy, so I would expect exactly the same 3:1 PS:TMU ratio as found on the r580.

I agree with this possible scenario, so they could possibly be R580 with a Quad Disabled, but this again begs the question of why it isn't named X1900 GTO, the current naming suggests it based on R520 technology. But why sell larger die fully functional X1900 core at such low price points so early boggles the mind to me. To me getting rid of X1800 inventory first would be more important, and is not like R520 is any bit slow right now.

 

[stelleg151]

To all those who dont think it will be based on the r580, remeber that the x800gto2 was based on r480, despite the fact that it was called x800gto and not x850gto.

 

[tvdang7]

kinda wierd if u ask me. why cant they just continue making the x1800 xl (which is a great card) and just lower the price. no need to disable anyhting.

UNLESS its not the r520 core. which would make things very confusing.

 

[Munky]

Well, we have here 2 conflicting names. The r590 codename suggests it will be a r580 derivative, while the x1800gto name hints at r520 leftovers. Either this card has some unusual naming convention, or we're talking about 2 different cards here.