x1600xt for $159 USD

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster

Originally posted by: Paratus
Inq is wrong.

256bit ring bus - 128 bit interface to mem.

It's the 4 tmus/rops that kill it. It's basically the fastest 4 pipe card on the planet.

QFT.

Well for a 4 pipe card its doing well agaisnt a 12 pipe GS. Thanks to its, 4-1-3-2 architecure.

It'll be interesting to see how that architecture does in R580 vs G71? fight next year.

 

[swatX]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉

6800GS > x1600xt and cheapest 6800GS i found is ~ 190$

 

[swatX]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: hans030390
Thats a decent deal...though I'd take the 6800gs because it performs better (though, it is more expensive compared to that).

almost twice as expensive 😛

. . . i believe the 1600xt's competition is the 6600GT/6800NU . . . i'd stick one in my rig for $160 😉

Where do you get almost twice as expensive? Link?

i dunno . . . the cheapest AGP 6800GT is ~$350 . . . the x1600xt is $160 . . . you do the math. 😉

hans said 6800gs though. Which is no suprise really. Which puts the XT about $50 or so cheaper than the GS from what I recall. Could be wrong about that.

i can't find ANY 6800GS in AGP 😉

dont worry it will be released soon.

 

[Paratus]

not in AGP you didn't which is what we're talking about

 

[Noid]

I read this thread ... and went out to Mirco Center.

I picked up the 850xt.
The store has outdated UPC's on some boxes.
So, be sure to go to the counter if you forget to bring the UPC coupon codes.
They have a computer at the store dedicated to printing mail in rebates also.
And they wil print an extra reciept at customer service desk.
(so you have a reciept if you need to return it.)

I was going to build an A64 X2 DFI box... but it's still to expensive to go A64 and SLI now.

Going to D/L the new ATi drivers and pop it in now.

Thx for the heads up on this deal.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: duragezic
For all intents and purporses the 6800GS is equivalent to the 6800GT, which is near 2x as much in AGP as he pointed out.

This sucks. I'm with appopin, I have no PCI-E support and have a 9800 Pro (o/c to near XT levels) but want an upgrade. At least mine still works tho. 😛

The microcenter deal was OK but still, I hate rebates, so its a $300 card that isn't as fast as a 7800GT (which are getting under $300).

The X1600XT is too slow I think... A 6600GT would not be enough of an upgrade over my 9800 Pro IMO.

If the AGP X1600XT is $199, how is the $289 6800GT AGP "twice as much"? Not by my math, maybe in Apoppin' math? 😉

Hmmm $289 at newegg too

Thanks, Rollo! . . . that's the current best deal on a 6800GT and i am very tempted.
:thumbsup:

EDIT: Out Of Stock
ETA: 12/23/2005
:thumbsdown:
got my hope up 😛

The best - up till then i could find was ~$320 for it . . . letsee . . . MSRP on an AGP 1600xt is $159 . . . multiply that by two and . . . it's about "double" ($318) for the 6800GT. 😉

at $159 vs $289 the price-performance ratio tips a bit in favor of the nVidia card . . .

My math is fairly solid.
😀

Still, the x1600xt would be a bit of an upgrade over my 9800xt for pretty cheap . . .

actually, i haven't even tested my card to see if it is really "dead" - or not. :Q
😱
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Originally posted by: Rollo
What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS, and can't really be compared to a 6800GT/GS.

Now, Rollo, that reall is FUD . . . i may not have been able to find a $290 6800GT but i am not saying ANY nVidia product sucks.

The x1600xt does NOT suck. AT $159 it is competition for the 6600GT [and offers a fair bit more, imo, over that card]. 😉

i'd have to pay over a hundred bucks more to get the 6800GT over the x1600xt . . . and the 6800GS in agp is MIA. 😛

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Hmmm $289 at newegg too

Out of Stock however.

 

[Kalessian]

So is the x1600xt actually out for AGP right now? Or are we all poking fun at the GS for not being AGP while the x1600xt isn't out for AGP, either?

And I think noid has the wrong thread.

 

[Zebo]

What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS,

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Kalessian
So is the x1600xt actually out for AGP right now? Or are we all poking fun at the GS for not being AGP while the x1600xt isn't out for AGP, either?

And I think noid has the wrong thread.

Only 'announced' i think . . . . GeCube made an announcement last week . . . OTOH, the agp-GS is not announced at all. 😉

Introducing the World's First GECUBE Radeon X1000 AGP Series Graphics Cards

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Originally posted by: Zebo

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

edit: thanks for setting the "tone", Zebo . . .

i don't want "just a faster 9800xt" . . . thank you . . . that aging "SM3.0-less" junk in a modern PCIe rig doesn't make much sense either. 😛

no offence 😉

😀

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: Zebo

What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS,

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

You're on the right track, add some more vitriol and throw in a few personal attacks and you'll fit right in here at the Video forum.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Zebo

What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS,

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

This is the REAL answer, of course.

Those of you clinging to your antique motherboards like they were blood relatives are going to have to get used to good deals on AGP cards selling out quick and high prices on your obsolete parts.

Those Leadtek cards were in stock when I posted, not my fault there's a lot of cheapskates out there who won't get with last years program in the last month of this year.

 

[Powermoloch]

Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Zebo

What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS,

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

This is the REAL answer, of course.

Those of you clinging to your antique motherboards like they were blood relatives are going to have to get used to good deals on AGP cards selling out quick and high prices on your obsolete parts.

Those Leadtek cards were in stock when I posted, not my fault there's a lot of cheapskates out there who won't get with last years program in the last month of this year.

Nothing like a bit of healthy elitism is there rollo? 😉

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Zebo

What people REALLY need to know about the X1600XT is that it SUCKS,

Werd - And you losers sitting on AGP suck even more when you can get a GTO and make into XTPE for $155. You can get a PCIe motherboard for less than $80, have a future and be twice as fast as that POS 1600.

No offense of course😀 just adjusting tone for proper video forum etiquette.😛

This is the REAL answer, of course.

Those of you clinging to your antique motherboards like they were blood relatives are going to have to get used to good deals on AGP cards selling out quick and high prices on your obsolete parts.

Those Leadtek cards were in stock when I posted, not my fault there's a lot of cheapskates out there who won't get with last years program in the last month of this year.

i won't change over to PCIe just because you think my MB is "antique" . . .
. . . and as a person who wastes many hundreds of dallars a year on his videocards, i'd caution you about preaching to others how to spend their money. 😛
:roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

Nothing wrong with having a high end AGP card from last year and still using it, what I have a problem with is paying good bucks for AGP cards in December 2005!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

Nothing wrong with having a high end AGP card from last year and still using it, what I have a problem with is paying good bucks for AGP cards in December 2006!

see my last post . . . no one is asking you to pay for an AGP card . . .

and it's Dec 2005 - last i checked. 😛

😀

edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

Nothing wrong with having a high end AGP card from last year and still using it, what I have a problem with is paying good bucks for AGP cards in December 2006!

True that :thumbsup: !

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

Nothing wrong with having a high end AGP card from last year and still using it, what I have a problem with is paying good bucks for AGP cards in December 2006!

see my last post . . . no one is asking you to pay for an AGP card . . .

and it's Dec 2005 - last i checked. 😛

😀

edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

Tag Im in....... 😀

Same here 9600XT to X1600XT would be nice (X1800XL would be nicer however 🙂 )

Some of us do have the money to upgrade - even to an 512MB GTX SLI machine - we don't necessarily have the time or need to do so. A new card takes an hour to install - a new machine takes days.


One thing about the X1000 series in AGP - with HD acceleration and transcoding acceleration - it effectively speeds up even an old AXP or P4 machine on two (3 if you count games) of the most intensive CPU tasks.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Paratus

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Thank god that I have my X850XT (hugs very ewy much !)

Nothing wrong with having a high end AGP card from last year and still using it, what I have a problem with is paying good bucks for AGP cards in December 2006!

see my last post . . . no one is asking you to pay for an AGP card . . .

and it's Dec 2005 - last i checked. 😛

😀

edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

Tag Im in....... 😀

Same here 9600XT to X1600XT would be nice (X1800XL would be nicer however 🙂 )

Some of us do have the money to upgrade - even to an 512MB GTX SLI machine - we don't necessarily have the time or need to do so. A new card takes an hour to install - a new machine takes days.


One thing about the X1000 series in AGP - with HD acceleration and transcoding acceleration - it effectively speeds up even an old AXP or P4 machine on two (3 if you count games) of the most intensive CPU tasks.

i really like the features of the new ati cards over the nVidia 6800series . . . to say nothing of the lack in the x800s . . .

i am not "just" a gamer . . . my PC is very useful for video and business. 😛

and i see ZERO reason to upgrade to PCIe - yet.

i think both nVidia and ATI don't really "get it" . . . their loss . . . i'd buy an AGP x1800 [or 7800gt]in a moment . . . as it is, it looks like an x1600xt and an Xbox360 . . .
🙂

in a year or two - when i chose - i'll upgrade everything.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: apoppin
edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

Nope. I think the time of AGP has come and gone and that there's no reason to buy a 128bit AGP card in 2005.

Anyone who has a S754 A64 they want to hold on to can buy this Epox S754 from newegg for $76 and make their choice of video cards a much friendlier proposition:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123255

Going to tell me a $289 6800GT makes more sense for you than selling your motherboard for $30-40, and buying a 7800GT for $289 and that Epox motherboard for another $30-$40, Apoppin'?

For the S754 guy who wants SLI or the possibility of it Epox has them covered as well, for a whole $99..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123257

There is NO good reason to spend a couple hundred on a AGP card these days. Anyone who says there is wants you to make the same mistakes they are.

BTW- you have no idea what AGP X1600XTs will cost when they're released, so don't pretend they'll be $169..

 

[dug777]

Has it ever occurred to you Rollo that a lot of us would place a resonable degree of value on the convenience of being able to grab a faster card and drop it into their existing, perfectly powerful set-up? That's 10mins easy work compared to many hours work rebuilding your system to install a new mobo (at least for those of us who don't do this regularly...😉

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin
edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

Nope. I think the time of AGP has come and gone and that there's no reason to buy a 128bit AGP card in 2005.

Anyone who has a S754 A64 they want to hold on to can buy this Epox S754 from newegg for $76 and make their choice of video cards a much friendlier proposition:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123255

Going to tell me a $289 6800GT makes more sense for you than selling your motherboard for $30-40, and buying a 7800GT for $289 and that Epox motherboard for another $30-$40, Apoppin'?

For the S754 guy who wants SLI or the possibility of it Epox has them covered as well, for a whole $99..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123257

There is NO good reason to spend a couple hundred on a AGP card these days. Anyone who says there is wants you to make the same mistakes they are.

BTW- you have no idea what AGP X1600XTs will cost when they're released, so don't pretend they'll be $169..

You haven't been paying attention, have you?

you can give me no good advice for my Socket 478 rig - 2.80c P4@3.31Ghz/1GB PC3500 in DC/AbitIc7 . . . it's a complete overhaul or a [maybe] $180 video card. . . . there is only one NW P4 MB for PCIe and i would lose my O/C - not to mention HOURS reinstalling everything.

OTOH, that $180 x1600xt will give me another 18 months at 10x7 or higher. i am satisfied with the way my 9800xt plays FEAR so an x1600xt should be FINE - for me. We know the 6600 is the minimum card for Unreal3 and the x1600xt eats it alive . . . i should be OK.

But thanks for the concern.

iand i DO believe the AGP x1600xt will be well under $200. 😉
The MSRP for PCIe version is $159 - expect them discounted further as competition goes to work. . . . an AGP card shouldn't have much of a premium as the bridge chip is so cheap.

 

[Paratus]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: apoppin
edit
and don't you think an x1600xt would be a reasonable/cheap upgrade for a 9800xt @$159?

remember i still game at 10x7 or 11x8. 😉

Nope. I think the time of AGP has come and gone and that there's no reason to buy a 128bit AGP card in 2005.

Anyone who has a S754 A64 they want to hold on to can buy this Epox S754 from newegg for $76 and make their choice of video cards a much friendlier proposition:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123255

Going to tell me a $289 6800GT makes more sense for you than selling your motherboard for $30-40, and buying a 7800GT for $289 and that Epox motherboard for another $30-$40, Apoppin'?

For the S754 guy who wants SLI or the possibility of it Epox has them covered as well, for a whole $99..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123257

There is NO good reason to spend a couple hundred on a AGP card these days. Anyone who says there is wants you to make the same mistakes they are.

BTW- you have no idea what AGP X1600XTs will cost when they're released, so don't pretend they'll be $169..

This is true - but it will still be cheaper than upgrading the mobo & vid card and in my case hard drive and/or pci-ide adapter. Plus it will take way more time than I have for the amount of gaming I do, (2 small kids, working parents + strange work hours). There are only 2 mobos I could get that would accept my cpu and have PCIe and neither is a nice as my current board.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: apoppin
You haven't been paying attention, have you?

you can give me no good advice for my Socket 478 rig - 2.80c P4@3.31Ghz/1GB PC3500 in DC/AbitIc7 . . . it's a complete overhaul or a [maybe] $180 video card. . . . there is only one NW P4 MB for PCIe and i would lose my O/C - not to mention HOURS reinstalling everything.

Yeah it would be rough to lose a P4 2.8! I can see why ANY gamer would want to hang on to a gem like that.

This is pointless. I think you should buy another AGP card Apoppin, no matter what the cost is. It suits you.