WTH: 9600 XT will outperform 9700 Pro in all cases...

[sellmen]

Originally posted by: chsh1ca

Originally posted by: sellmen
Your R9800 pro vs 9700 pro argument really isn't valid, because the R9800 has the same 256-bit memory interface and 8 pipelines then the 9700 pro does. Core improvements, plus higher clockspeeds, lead to a 20-30% gain when using AA/AF.
The 9600XT is a higher clocked 9600pro, I have already linked benchmarks of a 567/716 clocked R9600, which can't compete with a 9700pro. How do you expect a 500/600 clocked XT to compete?

If the 9600XT is indeed '[just] a higher clocked 9600Pro', I would like to see that stated somewhere, unequivocally. As I have said TWICE now, why not just wait and see? We will have benchmarks in another couple of weeks hopefully, and then all will be revealed. If it's a misprint, anand will probably make a correction, but it makes little sense as a misprint IMO.

From rage3d:

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"The Radeon 9600 XT much likes its more powerful brother is an evolutionary chip from its predecessor. The improvements to the chip are all in the process technology. The Radeon 9600 was one of the first 0.13 micron graphics chipsets out on the market. There has been considerable improvement to 0.13 micron process ever since."

 

[SickBeast]

Theoretically, the 4-pipe 9600 pro would need to be clocked at double the speed of an 8-pipe 9700 pro to achieve the same performance (all other variables being equal, of course). That would mean that the 9600 would have to be clocked at 650mhz (9700 pro is clocked at 325mhz) to obtain the same performance.

Granted, there were improvements made to the RV350 core, so it is possible that the 9600 could beat out the 9700 at speeds under 650mhz. Time will tell.