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WTF: UPS/FedEx... how the hell do i estimate GROUND shipping?

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I dont want to spend $100 for 2nd day, i want a damn ground rate to display, what the fuck

Ahah, i got it... seems to have to do with what packaging i use... grr
 
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UPS/FedEx, you know, that great AMERICAN company (not some shitty trollish newzealand company) I cant get a damn ground estimate, all they show is a damn 2nd day price, and i cant figure out where to get a ground estimate.

Sounds like a "great AMERICAN" company, for sure.
 
the only way i could get ground info from fedex was
authorized ship center
your packaging

edit:self service worked as well
 
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