WTF! Two Car Accidents in one week.

[Quiksilver]

PFFT.

Just how fucking hard is it for you assholes to pay attention to what the hell is going on around you when you are driving. If the light just turned yellow (like literally) it doesn't fucking mean stop it means be prepared to stop. Meaning you keep driving and let the person or two behind you worry about coming to a stop. You assholes who can't understand this concept has caused me to get rear ended twice this week.

On Wednesday (which also happened to be my birthday) someone pulled that shit and caused 5 cars (including me) to wreck. 3 of those cars were totaled with one driver taken away in an ambulance for minor injuries.

Today less than an hour ago same shit but only with me and one other person. On top of the dick head who decided to stop at the yellow light changed his mind after applying the brakes after he noticed everyone was about to plow into him and drove off.

Oh and before anyone says I shouldn't be speeding or some shit. I wasn't speeding, the speed limit is 50 and I was doing 50. If the dick wouldn't have caused everyone to slam on their brakes I would have had more than enough space to bring my car and everyone else to a stop safely and without havign to hard brake.

Fucking christ am I pissed off right now and pardon the language.

 

[JEDI]

stop following so close

in the 1st accident, did u hit the person in front of you?

in the 2nd accident, get a lawyer and sue up the wazoo for all those fools that followed too close.

your neck hurts, right?

 

[Epic Fail]

Hmm, tailgating is bad, uh, okay!

 

[coxmaster]

PFFT.

Just how fucking hard is it for you assholes to pay attention to what the hell is going on around you when you are driving.

Good question.. How hard is it? You seem to have rear ended someone, maybe if you paid better attention you would have seen him stop.

 

[Sluggo]

So, when you have to stop quickly to keep from hitting the car in front you, and the car behind you hits you, it is somehow the fault of the car in front of you?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I think someone needs defensive driving classes..

 

[arcenite]

I was handed the ultimate luck-fucking a few years ago.

Cruising about 45mph in rainy conditions, coming up on an intersection with two lights one after another. Lane in front of me is completely clear as I am going through the intersection, first light was green but second light turned yellow JUST AS SOMEONE FROM THE LEFT TURN LANE DECIDED TO GET INTO MY LANE AND STOP AT THE YELLOW.

Crash bang. My fault. I'm STILL PISSED ABOUT THAT!

Oh and, a few weeks later they changed the stop light patterns at that intersection which would've prevented the accident in the first place.

 

[SearchMaster]

I hope your insurance company doesn't fuck you.

My mom had 3 "accidents" in the course of a year. Two of them happened when people hit her parked car, and the third she was stopped at a red light and someone rear-ended her. None of them required any claims against her insurance company, and obviously none of them were her fault.

Her insurance company dropped her.

 

[bfdd]

lame. just found out my step mom was in a car accident recently. got into a head on collision with some officers, the officers are the ones at fault. totaled my parents natural gas civic.

 

[daw123]

How is it the OP's fault if the person in front of him breaks hard, he stops in time, but the car behind doesn't and rear ends him?

Seems to me that he did keep his distance, but the asshole behind didn't and the bell-end in front shouldn't have emergency stopped without there being cause to do so.

 

[SKORPI0]

50 mph translates to 74 feet/second. Not sure how close you were to the car in front of you, but at that speed I would maintained a gap of about 200 feet (almost 3 seconds worth of reaction time) just to be on the safe side.
Hope your back and neck are okay. I keep seeing people around me drive like retards, no control of the car and situation around them. Eyes on the road, not on the cellphone.

 

[coxmaster]

How is it the OP's fault if the person in front of him breaks hard, he stops in time, but the car behind doesn't and rear ends him?

Seems to me that he did keep his distance, but the asshole behind didn't and the bell-end in front shouldn't have emergency stopped without there being cause to do so.

To me it sounded like he just didnt stop in time. If the case is as you said then no, the OP is not at fault at all

 

[caspur]

There is an old saying in the trucking world, you drive your vehicle, the vehicle in front of you and the vehicle behind you.

As in the OP's case, no he is not at fault. What good did that do for him?

*People here are confusing tort law with driver training.

*The negligence of the accident rests on the person that rear ended the OP. I don't think there is any question about that. CLUE reports will show a 0%, non-neg.

*However, if the OP had been cognizant of the vehicle behind him, and how closely the vehicle was following him, while adjusting his own following distance so that he is able to gradually slow down the vehicle, he would have avoided the accident.

There are cases where being right doesn't matter. If you are hauling hazmat, and get rear ended, do you think your company gives a shit if you were right? How long do you think a commercial driver would be employed if they drove with that attitude? The goal, hopefully, should be accident avoidance....unless you are an attorney, then disregard this post.

 

[BoomerD]

There is an old saying in the trucking world, you drive your vehicle, the vehicle in front of you and the vehicle behind you.

As in the OP's case, no he is not at fault. What good did that do for him?

*People here are confusing tort law with driver training.

*The negligence of the accident rests on the person that rear ended the OP. I don't think there is any question about that. CLUE reports will show a 0%, non-neg.

*However, if the OP had been cognizant of the vehicle behind him, and how closely the vehicle was following him, while adjusting his own following distance so that he is able to gradually slow down the vehicle, he would have avoided the accident.

There are cases where being right doesn't matter. If you are hauling hazmat, and get rear ended, do you think your company gives a shit if you were right? How long do you think a commercial driver would be employed if they drove with that attitude? The goal, hopefully, should be accident avoidance....unless you are an attorney, then disregard this post.

So you're saying that to avoid being rear-ended, the OP should have rear-ended the car that stopped in front of him...causing the entire situation?

Yes, from the sound of it, the OP was following too close to the vehicle in front of him, BUT, he was able to stop without hitting that vehicle...the folks following the OP were also following too closely and weren't able to stop in time...
While it sucks to be the OP, he's not at fault nor liable in any way.

I carried a Class A driver's license for more than 30 years. I also had HAZMAT on my license for nearly 20 years.
It's true that you have to "drive for everyone around you," it's just good defensive driving, but when you have to "panic stop" because the car in front of you stops quickly, that does not make you liable for the morons who plow into the back of your vehicle. I've never worked for a company that would hold me responsible for the actions of another driver.

 

[caspur]

So you're saying that to avoid being rear-ended, the OP should have rear-ended the car that stopped in front of him...causing the entire situation?

Yes, from the sound of it, the OP was following too close to the vehicle in front of him, BUT, he was able to stop without hitting that vehicle...the folks following the OP were also following too closely and weren't able to stop in time...
While it sucks to be the OP, he's not at fault nor liable in any way.

I carried a Class A driver's license for more than 30 years. I also had HAZMAT on my license for nearly 20 years.
It's true that you have to "drive for everyone around you," it's just good defensive driving, but when you have to "panic stop" because the car in front of you stops quickly, that does not make you liable for the morons who plow into the back of your vehicle. I've never worked for a company that would hold me responsible for the actions of another driver.

The OP should have increased his following distance so that not only does he not hit the vehicle in front of him but he is also able to gradually slow down the car BEHIND him so he doesn't get rear ended.

With hazmats...heck, even with passengers, a panic stop is a no-no. Defense driving means not just avoiding accidents, but also not placing yourself in situations where you have to utilize the limits of your vehicle. Safe and steady, and being able to predict the actions of all drivers around you. No surprises.

Of course no company is going to say you are responsible for a non-fault accident. However, whether you spill 10,000 gallons of fuel or injure passengers, your future employment chances aren't that good with other companies, regardless of fault. I never belonged to any of the powerful transit unions, so it may be different depending on the circumstances.

 

[SandEagle]

The OP is either asian or woman. Or maybe *gasp* both

 

[Quiksilver]

Good question.. How hard is it? You seem to have rear ended someone, maybe if you paid better attention you would have seen him stop.

Reading fail?

I haven't rear ended anyone. I was rear ended... (In both accidents I was hit, I didn't hit anyone: see below on my stopping explanation)

@ those saying who I needed more stopping distance.

I come to a complete stop with room in front of me to keep me from hitting the person in front of me. I was taught that if I can't see both tires of the vehicle touching the ground when I stop then I'm too close and I could see both. Besides that I was driving cautiously because of th previous accident; anyone whose been in one knows you tend to be more alert until your nerves get comfortable again.

The first accident wasn't the fault of the guy behind me, it was the guy about 4 cars back (hitting someone at 30MPH + which is why ambulance was needed and 3 cars totaled.)

Second one girl hit me cause she was busy trying to keep her baby under control. (I think she was speeding too, I seen her later on in my drive and she was just blowing by people...)

...and no I'm neither asian or female. Id be at fault if I was, in these cases I wasn't.

I think someone needs defensive driving classes..

Riddle me this.

Your in the middle lane with traffic on both sides and someone is about to hit you., where do you go?

 

[Number1]

Obviously the OP was not driving defensively otherwise he would not have had to stop in a panic in both occasions.
It does not mean that he is at fault but he could have done better.
I was cut off by a mini bus a few years ago at an intersection and wrecked my car. I was overtaking a line of stopped cars in the inside lane and as the light turned green, the car at the head of the line waved the bus trough as a courtesy. Wam!!!!!!
Had I not been so anxious to overtake all those cars I would not have wrecked my car. I was not speeding.

 

[Quiksilver]

Now a crude paint pic.

Red-brown thing with yellow dots is the light changing to yellow from green, less than a second ago.

Cars without red lights are those continuing to drive forward without braking. Red car is me and blue car is other person.

 

[Ricemarine]

If everything in that pic was true and you were going 50... you're too close.

 

[Malak]

I think the big problem is there are lights on a street with a speed limit of 50 mph. That's just stupid.

 

[Engineer]

It's not the OP's fault. It's not the fault of those driving in front of the OP. It's the fault of those behind the OP for failure to maintain control of the vehicle and failure to stop, period. Sure, the OP could have held a larger following distance if he noticed that those behind him were riding his ass (I've done this) but it's not his responsibility. However, I do not agree that those driving in front of him are dick heads because they stopped (or slowed down and then went on). It's up to you (and that includes those behind the OP) to maintain a safe following distance and be able to stop. Those behind are at fault, not the OP or the driver in front of the OP.

 

[spidey07]

Stop following so close. If you leave more room you can slow down withou slamming your brakes hard causing an accident behind you. It not your fault but you were too close.

 

[BudAshes]

Stop following so close. If you leave more room you can slow down withou slamming your brakes hard causing an accident behind you. It not your fault but you were too close.

You just exude idiocy in every post you make. You weren't there, you don't know, so stfu.

Anyway...

I though I had bad luck when I got into 2 accidents in 1 year a couple years ago, before which I had never been in an accident as a driver. Eventually the dumb-asses out there are going to run into you, you just had some bad luck to have it happen twice in a week.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Now a crude paint pic.

Red-brown thing with yellow dots is the light changing to yellow from green, less than a second ago.

Cars without red lights are those continuing to drive forward without braking. Red car is me and blue car is me.

You are both the red and blue car?