WTF... this guy wants to be my rep in congress. FML.

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Zenmervolt

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How can you claim that I’m not qualified to run for political office? You don’t even know me. Nor do you know what I’ve lived though. In reality you don’t know anything.

Because you haven't told us anything. You have offered nothing more than meaningless generalities that are devoid of substance.

Well, those and a paranoid and delusional YouTube rant about how you're not really a stalker and how some university is persecuting you. Based on the data we have from the YouTube video, it's pretty understandable that we'd feel you're not qualified for public office.

If you had an open mind, I think you would like what I stand for.

Liking what someone stands for is not enough. We also would have to believe that they have the mental capacity to actually help those causes along. Nothing you have provided to us so far would indicate that you are capable, in any way, of advancing these vague causes you claim to support. In fact, one of the most effective ways of discrediting a cause is to ineptly attempt to support it, which seems, unfortunately, to be what passes for your home-run swing.

After all I stand for the people of the United States.

How? In what way? What specific actions have you taken that would indicate that you're not simply full of hot air?

I stand for keeping our personal rights/ Freedoms intact.

Once again, how? In what way? What specific legislation do you support or condemn? What hard, tangible evidence can you provide to show that you're anything other than a nutter?

I’m willing to listen to people who I may not agree with, just as long as they are willing to be respectful.

Well, if you ever gave anyone even a slight hint about the specific things you do believe, we might have at least a slight chance of finding out whether we do or do not agree with you. As it is, you have given us no indication of your beliefs or position on issues whatsoever.

Remember I am a College Graduate, in Criminal Justice as well as Psychology.

Whoop-de-friggin' do. Pretty much everyone here is a college graduate. And from schools that are a damn sight more prestigious than Holyoke Community College or Westfield State College, so I wouldn't go around waving your Associates degree from community college and your undergraduate degree from a 3rd tier college as some example of academic achievement. The simple fact is that these degrees, even taken together, represent average academic achievement at best and certainly do nothing to mark you as any form of great mind.

Besides my College Degrees I’m a graduate of the school of hard knocks.

You and just about everyone else. Believe it or not, other people have difficulties in their lives too. You're not unique, you're not the only one.

I think this makes me more than qualified.

Why? What specific things have happened to you that make you believe you are qualified? What specific actions have you taken to dig yourself out of these holes that you perceive yourself to have been in? Neither you nor "Jen" have offered a single specific example of the supposed "hardships" you have faced.

I would like to make an offer to anyone who wants to take me up on it. If you would like to meet up for a cup of coffee, and discuss issues all you have to do is E-Mail me and we can set something up.

What could you possibly say over coffee that you couldn't say here in this thread right now? Absolutely nothing. The simple fact is that you could have addressed every criticism here, on the forum, but you haven't. Instead, you have posted nothing other than empty banalities and attempted to build your credentials by appealing to your undergraduate degree from a Tier 3 college. You have not given anyone any indication that meeting you in person would be even remotely productive or enjoyable.
 
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Zenmervolt

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How does this thread make sense?

Are ATOT'ers having fun impersonating people?? Who honestly goes on a forum populated by some anti social blockheads in the hope of convincing them for supporting him?

This is pretty surreal.

Exactly my thoughts......
But you have to admit this is some good reading!!
It`s also way funnee watching all the ATOT minions getting owned royally by JenniferDion...You go girl!!!

If he/she/it is bored enough to let us keep punching he/she/it, then I might as well oblige. Insomnia is keeping me up anyway so why not have a little fun while I'm at it.

ZV
 

rudeguy

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No waitingfor your argument. Maybe I am just wondering how a person can be so judgemental of others and really have no real substantial reason? Well other than being from a specific state.

Oh good...I'm much when its not right before bedtime.

I actually deal with people from MA every single day. And while I was just having fun with the stereotype, you do fit into it quite nicely.

All kidding aside, I actually admire your bravery in coming back. Jeff has lost all respect since he took the video down though. He could probably gain quite a few votes if he made a new video specifically for us.

I wonder if anyone has ran for office and actively gone after the nerd vote? I mean...it worked for Poindexter and all those guys in the 80's.

Back on point though. Jeff's video gave me reason to form pretty accurate assumptions about him. Your showing up here invited me to form assumptions about you. You in turn, formed some very wrong assumptions about me. The only solution to this matter is a healthy round of pics. Clothing is optional of course.
 

rudeguy

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How can you claim that I’m not qualified to run for political office? You don’t even know me. Nor do you know what I’ve lived though. In reality you don’t know anything.
If you had an open mind, I think you would like what I stand for. After all I stand for the people of the United States. I stand for keeping our personal rights/ Freedoms intact. I’m willing to listen to people who I may not agree with, just as long as they are willing to be respectful.
Remember I am a College Graduate, in Criminal Justice as well as Psychology. Besides my College Degrees I’m a graduate of the school of hard knocks. I think this makes me more than qualified.
I would like to make an offer to anyone who wants to take me up on it. If you would like to meet up for a cup of coffee, and discuss issues all you have to do is E-Mail me and we can set something up.
Thank you for your time, J.P. Donnelly VoteDonnelly@aol.com
P.S. Thank you Jen for your support

Oh shit....
Using aol instantly shows that you are an idiot. There is no redeeming yourself.

Seppuku is the only option.
 
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Remember I am a College Graduate, in Criminal Justice as well as Psychology. Besides my College Degrees I’m a graduate of the school of hard knocks. I think this makes me more than qualified.

It took you three years to get an associate's degree, and a further three years to earn a bachelor's degree from a community college and a third rate school respectively. You think taking six years to get a degree that is assumed to be earned in four from substandard educational facilities makes you "more than qualified" to hold political office? Do you have any other accomplishments to list? So far you have academic mediocrity, subpar artistic skills, a tenuous relationship with a former lover and a restraining order. Would you honestly vote for anyone if that was all you knew about them?

Oh, and posting all your replies in a larger font makes you look like a total asshole. It feels like you're yelling at us over the internet. You notice how no one else in this thread has gone to posting their whole replies in a larger font? If you ever want to win the support of the people, you have to convince them that you are their ally, and that means acting like one of them in certain situations. Deliberately bucking posting conventions makes you look like you think you're above us, which, quite frankly, you aren't. I'm probably in the lower spectrum of educational credentials among users of this site, and I've still got a better academic record than you. How dare you proselytize us as though you're better than us?
 

PJABBER

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This is all about taking the message to the people. Though I did LOL.

Luckily this discussion is in OT. P&N tends to make serious people cry. Often.
 

PhlashFoto

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Please don't speak for everyone. I am from Massachusetts and fully support Jeff. My decision is based on who he is and what he is about. So for those of us from Massachusetts who either support him, or do not have an opinion you have no reason to apolagize.

Listen to yourself. You are FROM Mass, but you do not live here so your support mean squat since you can not cast a vote. Votes count, not your hot air from Florida. Plus I do have to apologize for the way both of you sound because it is pathetic and does not reflect the views and actions of the people of Massachusetts.

Second, I am still waiting to hear from Jeffery about what position he is running for. I'd also like to know what he thinks of his opponent and how he differs from his opponent. So far, both of you have given no credible reason to vote for an immature and inexperienced person, with no prior political experience, a job at the federal governement level. He has no previous service record.

Should I go on?
 

PJABBER

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Based on the initial post, he announced he is running for Congress.

If he wins he will join the esteemed body politic to confab with the likes of Democratic Congressman Alan Grayson of Florida. Assuming Grayson is re-elected in Florida, which is doubtful. However, Grayson might just be viable in eastern Massachusetts, much as he would be in San Francisco. However, Springfield is actually in western Massachusetts, and thus an unlikely place for a someone like Grayson.

Actually, an artist and a Republican might have a shot at carrying the Berkshires. I am now considering making a $1 donation to his campaign just to kick the season off. This might be seen by future historians as the ATOT Effect.
 
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BoberFett

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Exactly my thoughts......
But you have to admit this is some good reading!!
It`s also way funnee watching all the ATOT minions getting owned royally by JenniferDion...You go girl!!!

There is nothing correct about the quoted post.
 

CrackRabbit

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How can you claim that I’m not qualified to run for political office? You don’t even know me. Nor do you know what I’ve lived though. In reality you don’t know anything.
If you had an open mind, I think you would like what I stand for. After all I stand for the people of the United States. I stand for keeping our personal rights/ Freedoms intact. I’m willing to listen to people who I may not agree with, just as long as they are willing to be respectful.
Remember I am a College Graduate, in Criminal Justice as well as Psychology. Besides my College Degrees I’m a graduate of the school of hard knocks. I think this makes me more than qualified.
I would like to make an offer to anyone who wants to take me up on it. If you would like to meet up for a cup of coffee, and discuss issues all you have to do is E-Mail me and we can set something up.
Thank you for your time, J.P. Donnelly VoteDonnelly@aol.com
P.S. Thank you Jen for your support

Well, you do have all the right qualities to run for political office; paranoia, an overdone sense of self worth, a useless college degree, and a complete inability to know when to shut the fuck up.
I was wrong, you would fit right in in congress.


Just a note. Reaching for the starts accomplishes nothing and only makes your arms and back hurt.
 
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Delita

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Based on the initial post, he announced he is running for Congress.

If he wins he will join the esteemed body politic to confab with the likes of Democratic Congressman Alan Grayson of Florida. Assuming Grayson is re-elected in Florida, which is doubtful. However, Grayson might just be viable in eastern Massachusetts, much as he would be in San Francisco. However, Springfield is actually in western Massachusetts, and thus an unlikely place for a someone like Grayson.

Actually, an artist and a Republican might have a shot at carrying the Berkshires. I am now considering making a $1 donation to his campaign just to kick the season off. This might be seen by future historians as the ATOT Effect.

Grayson is batshit crazy.
 

OutHouse

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How can you claim that I’m not qualified to run for political office? You don’t even know me. Nor do you know what I’ve lived though. In reality you don’t know anything..

you summed it quite nicely in your first sentence. not only that but you sound like a crack head on the Maury show when they come out on stage and scream "YOU DONT KNOW ME"

lol

give it up man
 

zinfamous

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How does one qualify for a degree in the School of Hard Knocks? I've heard this institution bandied about for decades now, as if this were some real degree-granting institution, but I've yet to get a clear answer as to how one earns such a degree, let alone apply for admittance into this institution.

Or is saying that you hold of these degrees akin to filling out the "other" checkbox on surveys?--claiming some sort of qualification that any metabolizing human is born with?
 

Kreon

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How can you claim that I’m not qualified to run for political office? You don’t even know me. Nor do you know what I’ve lived though. In reality you don’t know anything.


Because you haven't told us anything. You have offered nothing more than meaningless generalities that are devoid of substance.

Well, those and a paranoid and delusional YouTube rant about how you're not really a stalker and how some university is persecuting you. Based on the data we have from the YouTube video, it's pretty understandable that we'd feel you're not qualified for public office.

This is exactly what I thought when I read his statement.

Your job is to get us to know you, and support you. The number one thing here would be to provide some substance.

And get a semi-real e-mail. At least gmail or something. AOL screams "bad with technology" and "behind the times" and a little bit of "SPAMMMMMMM"
 

Zenmervolt

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Like Nancy Pelosi is any more qualified. Move on.

While I sincerely dislike Ms. Pelosi's political positions and believe them to be ill-considered, I will readily admit that she is nearly infinitely more qualified to hold public office than this J. P. Donnelly character is (or would be if he existed).

ZV
 

iversonyin

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While I sincerely dislike Ms. Pelosi's political positions and believe them to be ill-considered, I will readily admit that she is nearly infinitely more qualified to hold public office than this J. P. Donnelly character is (or would be if he existed).

ZV

I rather have an average citizen than an extremely bias radical in the Congress. I would vote for this guy over Pelosi.
 

Zenmervolt

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I rather have an average citizen than an extremely bias radical in the Congress. I would vote for this guy over Pelosi.

I believe you mean "biased", as "bias" is a noun and not an adjective.

You are welcome to prefer someone like Mr. Donnelly. I will always prefer an intelligent individual with whom I disagree than a moron who harms the causes in which I believe through his own ham-fisted attempts to defend those causes.

A bumbling idiot is a liability, not an asset, and this is especially true when the bumbling idiot purports to agree with you. Persons such as Mr. Donnelly make it all too easy for our opponents to play the paranoid moron card.

If you truly think that Mr. Donnelly represents the "average citizen", then I am very sad that you have such a low opinion of the average citizen.

ZV
 

zinfamous

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I believe you mean "biased", as "bias" is a noun and not an adjective.

You are welcome to prefer someone like Mr. Donnelly. I will always prefer an intelligent individual with whom I disagree than a moron who harms the causes in which I believe through his own ham-fisted attempts to defend those causes.

A bumbling idiot is a liability, not an asset, and this is especially true when the bumbling idiot purports to agree with you. Persons such as Mr. Donnelly make it all too easy for our opponents to play the paranoid moron card.

If you truly think that Mr. Donnelly represents the "average citizen", then I am very sad that you have such a low opinion of the average citizen.

ZV

what this guy said.
 

BeauJangles

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Art is what other people see in wht you do. One man's treasure is another's trash and vise versa. I think for art you have to look at the story or emotion or thought that is being portrayed. Not all art is pretty pictures and what the art worlds deems as a master piece. It's the same as song lyrics and poetry. It will speak to everyone differrently.

I edited this into a nicer post:

There is a difference between creating art for art's sake and crossing the line into commercialization. Creativity touches everybody, sometimes in fits and starts and the art that is created solely as an expression of of that creativity is great, regardless of how much it sucks. Though I might think it's not very good, that's not really the point. A person who creates art for themselves doesn't / shouldn't care what others think except in receiving constructive criticism to improve themselves.

Your buddy's art sucks, especially for someone with an art degree. There is nothing aesthetically, artistically, or intellectually interesting or stimulating about that oil painting he's trying to sell on Craigslist. I know plenty of people who are far more talented and better painters that actually have something to say with their art. As someone with nearly a decade of photography experience, I could spend 10 pages telling you why those photos are even below amateur status.

Like I said, if your buddy was creating art for art's sake, then I wouldn't have a problem, but I find it insulting that he thinks it's worthy of being sold. Not only that, but I think it indicates what a self-centered, out-of-touch, pseudo-intellectual he is.
 
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Fizzorin

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Also posting in epic thread.

PLEASE can we move this to P&N?!? I'd love to see Craig and mcowen and them respond. And Harvey! Is Harvey still around?

Tho ATOT is much better at independent thought, which is a plus....