WTF: stopped for music too loud, I don't have a bass car?!?

[alkemyst]

First I think I was targetted due to two cops trying to go from the far right of the road at a stop sign to the left turn lane I was heading too.

The first cop just flew out and made it fine. I didn't even know that's what he was going to do, his buddy tried to do the same thing but I was in the way. So I was between the two cops at the red light to turn left. One in front and another behind me.

The cop behind me turned his blues on right away. I had no clue what the fuck was going on other than he was going to tell me I should have let him go first.

Anyway I pull over. He tells me my music was far too loud. My windows were down. It was a commercial intersection, not residential as well.

Apparently the new Florida law is "audible at 25 feet or more". Now that's a pretty fucked up legal definition for one and two I can hear a conversation in a car at 25 feet 'audibily'...I doubt I could make it out, but I could tell someone was talking.

316.3045 Operation of radios or other mechanical soundmaking devices or instruments in vehicles; exemptions.--

(1) It is unlawful for any person operating or occupying a motor vehicle on a street or highway to operate or amplify the sound produced by a radio, tape player, or other mechanical soundmaking device or instrument from within the motor vehicle so that the sound is:

(a) Plainly audible at a distance of 25 feet or more from the motor vehicle

It's a $116 ticket...I don't have a problem with that, but it's hardly the spirit of the law.

I have two 10" subs in my car, they are not boom speakers. They are tuned to midbass and SQ. They are in tiny enclosures on each side of my rear seats. At full blast, you can barely here in inside the house right next to my car parked. At the volume I was listening at, I couldn't hear it inside my wife's car if my windows were up and her's were up. You can't feel any bass as well. Windows down you can hear my music from about 25' away, it'd be hard to make out the song though.

Definitely a vindictive ticket...meanwhile my neighbors can have parties outside every weekend and it's not against any ordinance.

There is a link about a couple cases fighting it:

I don't know if it applies or what the verdict was: http://www.jud6.org/LegalCommunity/.../2010/CRC08-00055APANO%20Schermerhorn.htm

It seems the internet is full of stories like mine...not many posted by dudes that have 140dB systems that were booming through a neighborhood complaining.

It seems a very ambiguous law.

 

[speedy2]

25 feet? Lived in Florida all my life and I didn't know it was that close. Even a base model Am/FM radio is gonna be heard from 25'. Yet somehow, Motorcycles can have exhaust the loudness of the Space Shuttle. Retarded.

 

[zerocool84]

In the title you say you don't have a bass car yet state you have two 10" subs. You got caught plain and simple. Next time don't have your music blaring so much then. Everyone always says they weren't driving fast, their tint isn't that dark, their music is never that loud. Just accept responsibility and pay the fine.

 

[alkemyst]

It's a law totally written to give a cop pretty much the right to be judge and jury on who he pulls over with their windows down.

I didn't post in my OP, but my wife's non-amplified radio in her saturn I could hear at 25' much the same as mine.

I am pissed that I get some ticket like this and all night I can hear bass cars driving around.

This is the second time a sheriff pulled me over at that intersection for some bullshit deal.

The first time one blew his red light flew up behind me, followed me for 3 miles and then pulled me over for running a red light at that intersection. It was not red, there were at least 3 other cars behind me that also went. Also I told the cop it's impossible because if his light is red, mine wouldn't be.

I won that case in court. They found it mostly odd that I was finally pulled over two highway exits away from where the officer identified my infraction. That ticket was $180. So blowing a red light isn't that much worst than having music heard at 25' away.

I don't get today's laws and then the lack of enforcement on those that harm others.

 

[alkemyst]

In the title you say you don't have a bass car yet state you have two 10" subs. You got caught plain and simple. Next time don't have your music blaring so much then. Everyone always says they weren't driving fast, their tint isn't that dark, their music is never that loud. Just accept responsibility and pay the fine.

I posted that to be honest. two 10" subs in < .4 cu ft enclosures. Image Dynamics ID10's...total sound quality speakers with not much 'low end output'.

I have had no problem paying my tickets when I have been guilty. I haven't 'ticket clinic'ed any of my speeding tickets ever.

Don't go throwing assumptions.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Its sad, but you will only get pulled over for that if you are bumping rap or R&B here. Classic rock is fine to blast as loud as you want.

 

[chorb]

what kind of car do you have?

 

[chorb]

Its sad, but you will only get pulled over for that if you are bumping rap or R&B here. Classic rock is fine to blast as loud as you want.

I do that quite often

 

[alkemyst]

Its sad, but you will only get pulled over for that if you are bumping rap or R&B here. Classic rock is fine to blast as loud as you want.

I had on Sirius/XM 20. Rock.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

alkemyst, I think your definition of loud is different from most folks.

 

[alkemyst]

what kind of car do you have?

 

[zerocool84]

You have that car and you're surprised you got stopped? You know the risks having that type of car has when driving.

 

[alkemyst]

alkemyst, I think your definition of loud is different from most folks.

don't get me wrong, I like loud music. I don't like to have my car shaken by anyone else so I don't do that to them either.

I listen loud enough to understand the music with my windows down. Most of the time I can't hear my own music at a light due to some bass truck not even right next to me.

I understand the spirit of this law, but I think I was just fucked with in getting it. Most don't even know I have subs since they are used to them being so loud compared to the rest of the music.

 

[alkemyst]

You have that car and you're surprised you got stopped? You know the risks having that type of car has when driving.

Wow...just wow. That's a pretty interesting statement.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It's a law written because some douchebags drive around with the bass thumping so loud as to annoy people inside their homes.

 

[zerocool84]

Wow...just wow. That's a pretty interesting statement.

How is that an interesting statement? It's the same risks someone driving any other "ricer" car has. People that drive your car usually are young kids that drive stupid. It attracts cops. You didn't buy that car for the fuel economy.

 

[alkemyst]

It's a law written because some douchebags drive around with the bass thumping so loud as to annoy people inside their homes.

exactly, that's the intention of the law. I agree with that.

I am not the intended audience...not just because I am buttsore about a ticket, but because I don't have a boom car in any shape or form.

I pull up to a 'sound off' deal, and I'd be laughed at for lack of bass.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

It's a law written because some douchebags drive around with the bass thumping so loud as to annoy people inside their homes.

My neighbor used to get picked up every morning at 5:30 by some lame ass vato in a truck that was booming so loud you could hear it make the turn at the end of the block. He'd drive up and then, guess what? He'd honk the fricking horn! Like everyone on the block didn't already know he was there.

 

[alkemyst]

How is that an interesting statement? It's the same risks someone driving any other "ricer" car has. People that drive your car usually are young kids that drive stupid. It attracts cops. You didn't buy that car for the fuel economy.

I bought the car when I was 33. I have a BSCS, 7 years of college total with most of my background at the junior and senior levels in Biological Science and Chemistry. I am a professional.

So you feel people should only have Honda Accords?

Do you feel now that someone tore a M3 BMW in half where I live driving while stupid that all M3 drivers should be harassed?

You are making hell of some statements.

 

[zerocool84]

I bought the car when I was 33. I have a BSCS, 7 years of college total with most of my background at the junior and senior levels in Biological Science and Chemistry. I am a professional.

So you feel people should only have Honda Accords?

Do you feel now that someone tore a M3 BMW in half where I live driving while stupid that all M3 drivers should be harassed?

You are making hell of some statements.

It's the truth. I drive an SRT-4 and I knew the risks going into it. Cars like yours and mine attract more attention from cops because younger stupid kids drive them. It doesn't matter what or who you are, certain cars attract certain attention and yours is of the negative kind because of Fast and Furious. Think what you want but this is nothing new. Like I said, you didn't buy it for the gas mileage, it's sporty and looks cool, those types of cars attract more attention from cops.You being a professional should have been able to come up with that one your self.

 

[alkemyst]

My neighbor used to get picked up every morning at 5:30 by some lame ass vato in a truck that was booming so loud you could hear it make the turn at the end of the block. He'd drive up and then, guess what? He'd honk the fricking horn! Like everyone on the block didn't already know he was there.

Not to mention they probably have a cell phone. There was a family down the road that did that (no bass just blare their horn), it was about 6:30am at the time. I walked up to them with my dogs and literally said "DUDE WTF!, a simple beep would be enough. Why the fuck are you holding your horn down for 5 seconds? Also don't you have a FUCKING cell phone?!?!"

they don't do it any more though. I am sure some will think I was the one being a jerk there too, but that's not fair to dozens of people each morning...I was only rude to one person.

 

[alkemyst]

It's the truth. I drive an SRT-4 and I knew the risks going into it. Cars like yours and mine attract more attention from cops because younger stupid kids drive them. It doesn't matter what or who you are, certain cars attract certain attention and yours is of the negative kind because of Fast and Furious. Think what you want but this is nothing new.

fight the good fight y0.

So you accept when you get harassed for doing nothing, but fitting some profile?

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Wow, I didn't know you get get S14's in the states.

Or is it a suedo one with the POS KA24 motor?

All the ones here have SR20DET's. That's the only way an S13/S14/S15 should have been sold.

 

[zerocool84]

fight the good fight y0.

So you accept when you get harassed for doing nothing, but fitting some profile?

My stock exhaust is loud and I've gotten stopped for it. My exhaust comes with no mufflers from the factory and I've gotten stopped on multiple occasions for it and I've shown them the owners manual stating there is no muffler. I've taken the wing my car comes with off so cops will look at me less. It's just what comes with having that type of car. All those young kids killed it for you. I usually never drive over 3k rpm when I'm close to cops and I roll down my windows since I have tint and turn my music down when I'm passing one.

 

[jlee]

If it's an unjust ticket, fight it. That's what the court system is for.