WTF Now CHINA WANTS WAR!!!!

Darkstar757

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Possible war

Well This might be the begining of the END folks. If China does this the USA will respond and Welcome to WWIII.


Im so sick of humans I want to leave Earth!:|
 

tallest1

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Thank God China hasn't decided to attack pre-emptively [sp?] like good 'ol Bush did.
 

Moonbeam

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It would help to understand that people derive their sense of self importance from external sources because they have been made to despise who they really are. Thus we get Chinese who can only feel good if China is a winner. If China was to loose Taiwan they would be threatened with feeling how bad they really feel. They, like us, would rather die rather than feel that, though, hopefully, though only via other people in the form of soldiers and not really them.

We are, naturally, not really sick of other humans, but sick of the catch 22 that all humans are caught in: we would rather pretend to be ok than know how we really feel so we could see that we feel bad because we were taught a lie. There is nothing wrong with us. Unfortunately we would rather die than relive the original pain. Too bad too. No?
 

Imdmn04

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what makes u think we will back up taiwan.

backing up taiwan is not in the interest of U.S. because pissing off China is not an interest of U.S.
there is more to lose if we piss off China than if we piss off taiwan.
Fvck democracy principles, economical gains is where all the interest lies.
 

abaez

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No we won't. We get so much imports from Taiwan it would be stupid to ignore this.
 

Witling

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The Canadian Prime Minister, Cretian, (spelling) spoke of exactly this case before we invaded Iraq. Hey, China feels "threatened" by Taiwan. Feels that Taiwan might be developing weapons (and they certainly have the capability). Bye Bye Taiwan. Preemptive attack so China can feel safe. It has a precedent. They'll just set up a democratic government there and then leave in about 80 years.
 

CaptnKirk

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China regrets US trade policy

Paybacks are hell.

From the article:

Chinese textile and apparel exports began climbing sharply then,
and an increase of 7.5 percent now would come on top of gains that
occurred in 2002. Bra exports, for example, more than tripled in 2002.

If we cut off that trade won't that just leave us hanging out ?
 

Zebo

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Read Red Dragon Rising no doubt we will go to war with them. Worst part is traitors at home here have been enableing them with trade/weapons secrets and supporting the worst regime ever and police state communists. Can't blame the consumer to much since they are ignorant and want cheap.But you are buying your own bullit too.
 

kage69

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what makes u think we will back up taiwan.

backing up taiwan is not in the interest of U.S. because pissing off China is not an interest of U.S.

You seem to unaware of all the military equipment and training we've sent to Taiwan, as well as repeated declarations from Washington that a 'one China' policy will not be allowed to be completed via force.


 

Witling

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Kage, that military equipment and training will be converted into "Well, boys, we sent you what you need. Good luck." The national mood is somewhat malleable.:Q
 

kaizersose

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Originally posted by: Whitling
The Canadian Prime Minister, Cretian, (spelling) spoke of exactly this case before we invaded Iraq. Hey, China feels "threatened" by Taiwan. Feels that Taiwan might be developing weapons (and they certainly have the capability). Bye Bye Taiwan. Preemptive attack so China can feel safe. It has a precedent. They'll just set up a democratic government there and then leave in about 80 years.

real accurate comparison.
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has taiwan ever invaded foreign countries, sponsored terrorism or been held captive by a brutal totalitarian regime? how can you expect to have a reasonable debate while making comparisons that are so wildly innacurate? the situation of taiwan/china is so vastly different from US/Iraq and should be treated as such. Taiwan is not threatening in its military prowess or agression (it has never been aggressive) but in the idea that it represents: a free society.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Whitling
Zeb, if it's the worst regime ever, why didn't we free them first?

Billions in sales and profits to very politically influential US corps, a naive hope we can bribe them into western reforms, and it's not exactly a painless misson. See Veitnam. But gets worse every year.

Everyone should read this book by state department insiders...talks about how they fund, provides parts, and supervison of Iraq?s, Iran?s, North Korea?s and Pakistan?s nuclear programs. They are the REAL axis of EVIL and we are headed on a collision course.
 

Witling

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Kaizerose, This may suprise you a little, but the Taiwanese weren't all that pleased when Chang Kai Shek (spelling?) came and took over Taiwan. Second you must be naive to the drivelling idiot stage if you think that China can't do this. How about "We're freeing the Taiwanese who have so long been held captive." And Taiwanese do distinguish themselves from the people who came over from mainland China. In terms of never being aggressive, I recognize that Iraq did once invade another piece of arbitrary real estate (boundaries established by Europeans in the 20th century), but as far as being nonagressive, that didn't help Iraq in 2003. Governments make this sh^t up. Yours did.
 

Imdmn04

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Originally posted by: kage69
what makes u think we will back up taiwan.

backing up taiwan is not in the interest of U.S. because pissing off China is not an interest of U.S.

You seem to unaware of all the military equipment and training we've sent to Taiwan, as well as repeated declarations from Washington that a 'one China' policy will not be allowed to be completed via force.

Washington also said they support the one china policy, so if taiwan were to declare independence first, who will they support?

u seem not to realize that it is in our interest to keep things on a status quo, no wars, but with enough tension, so we can make good money off selling weapons to taiwan.
 

kage69

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u seem not to realize that it is in our interest to keep things on a status quo, no wars, but with enough tension, so we can make good money off selling weapons to taiwan.

What led you to believe that? Funny, I don't recall saying anything to that effect. Care to share?


Kage, that military equipment and training will be converted into "Well, boys, we sent you what you need. Good luck." The national mood is somewhat malleable


Actually, Taiwan DOES have what they need to defend themselves (except nukes, but I doubt Beijing would resort to that). Whatever our current feelings might be, that doesn't change the fact that Taiwan has Knox, Perry, and La Feyette class frigates, all with very-competent foreign and domestic missile technology. Not to mention the plethora of other goodies China only gets to have dreams about. I think China will find Taiwan's defenses anything but ...malleable.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Everybody calm down. It's just sabre rattling. ;)

Oh yea?

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Seeking to compete on its own terms in the lucrative entertainment industry, China announced a government-funded project Tuesday to promote an alternative to DVDs and "attack the market share" of the global video format.

EVD would give Chinese manufacturers and technology consortiums a homegrown platform to sell and build on. It also is aimed at relieving Chinese DVD producers from paying licensing fees to the companies that hold patents to the DVD format.

A spokesman for the Motion Picture Association of America did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Research on EVD began in 1999. It was developed by a company called Beijing E-World Technology Co. Ltd. using video-compression technologies licensed by On2 Technologies, an American company.

On the surface, it would seem that EVD's international impact could be huge, because China makes about 60 percent of the world's DVD players, said Vamsi Sistla, senior analyst with Allied Business Intelligence, an Oyster Bay, N.Y.-based research firm.

EVD's emergence has not only economic but cultural roots. It is consistent with communist China's broader intentions ? carving out a unique place in the global economy, whose standards it complains have been defined by the West.

As it moves further from its planned-economy roots and deeper into its market-oriented experiment, China has made a point of saying it wants to develop Chinese answers to modern problems. EVD fits that goal.

The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily said last month that EVD will let domestic disc-player manufacturers "shake off their previous dependence on foreign technologies."