WTF is wrong with the Chinese Gov.?

[jyates]

I think that is what you call being tough on crime.

He won't be a repeat offender will he?

 

[maddogchen]

This is China, a Communist regime. Not surprising. On another note, they think of stealing national relics as something like high-treason and thats why its punishable by death.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Typical Chunes government. That's it.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
That's what you get for stealing. Good for the Chinese Government.

What if a person was stealing food because they're hungry? Still okay?

My ex-gf told me that she once saw prisoners being executed in a field while she was riding in a train as a little girl (in China). It was traumatizing to her.

China is a different world than I think a lot of people realize.

 

[jjones]

They should torture him before they kill him, maybe a public flogging.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
That's what you get for stealing. Good for the Chinese Government.

What if a person was stealing food because they're hungry? Still okay?

Irrelevent and an asinine comparison.

The guy was stealing for ten years and those items were world recognized treasures. As others said, this is somewhat akin to treason.

I do not see a punishment like that ever happening here in the US, but I can empathize and understand why the Chinese government would hand down such a sentence. More power to them.

 

[Imdmn04]

The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
That's what you get for stealing. Good for the Chinese Government.

What if a person was stealing food because they're hungry? Still okay?

My ex-gf told me that she once saw prisoners being executed in a field while she was riding in a train as a little girl (in China). It was traumatizing to her.

China is a different world than I think a lot of people realize.

He wasn't stealing food. He wasn't even hungry. How can you compare food to priceless relics?


China entrusted this guy with its heritage, its life per se, yet he sold it away and stabbed her in the back. Now China's going to kill him for it.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: mchammer187
andrew fastow and ken lay did far worse and only got something like 10 years here
and i think that is just as extreme on the opposite side of the scale

That's because the US Judicial system is a joke.


Bet he won't do that again...:evil:

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: XietyCOM
That's what you get for stealing. Good for the Chinese Government.

What if a person was stealing food because they're hungry? Still okay?

My ex-gf told me that she once saw prisoners being executed in a field while she was riding in a train as a little girl (in China). It was traumatizing to her.

China is a different world than I think a lot of people realize.

WTF you can't compare a poor person stealing a loaf of bread and what this guy did. A loaf of bread is what $2. the stuff this guy was stealing was PRICELESS.


I don't feel sorry for the guy at all. he knew what these were worth and he chose to steal them. He had a job so it was not to feed his family. it is pure greed.

sucks to be him. but he gambled and lost.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

 

[MacBaine]

It's not like they have a shortage of people or something

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

But it's just not any stuff, it's priceless treasures. If the stuff he was stealing wasn't one of a kind, then it would be kind of harsh to kill him.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: DAWeinG

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

But it's just not any stuff, it's priceless treasures. If the stuff he was stealing wasn't one of a kind, then it would be kind of harsh to kill him.

Why does it matter? It's only stuff, maybe it's worth alot, but it's just STUFF! It's not life or anything close to it.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Scrooge2
It's difficult to see their point of view here. The oldest relics we have in this country important to national heritage is max 3-400 years old. The Chinese have stuff that's 4700 years old dating back to the Shang Dynasties. Also being listed by UNESCO means they are world protected treasures. He knew what he was doing and the price of being caught and still did it. Well fate's a Biatch ain't it?

I don't care if the guy stole the crown jewels off the queens head, he doesn't deserve to die for stealing stuff. At least in Saudi Arabia they'd just slice his arms off.

Yes he does, a thief is one of the lowest forms of life. Deterrents don't work. Throw a thief in prison for his crime and when he gets out he will go right back to thieving except for a very small proportion who lead a legitimate life after prison but the juducial system rarely punishes most criminals. What do we as a society do? Accept the thieves? I say not....you steal and get caught you die. Crime rates would plummet if the death penalty was mandatory for more crimes but sadly the pansy liberals want to give everything away so it will never happen. At least in Texas we can use deadly force to protect our property and lives so if you break in to my house between my dogs and guns it is more than likely a death sentence. If I'm the one who falls at least I died standing for something instead of being a useless pansy.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DAWeinG

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

But it's just not any stuff, it's priceless treasures. If the stuff he was stealing wasn't one of a kind, then it would be kind of harsh to kill him.

Why does it matter? It's only stuff, maybe it's worth alot, but it's just STUFF! It's not life or anything close to it.

To some people, it can be considered a country's life he was selling away.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Why does it matter? It's only stuff, maybe it's worth alot, but it's just STUFF! It's not life or anything close to it.

obviously they place more value on priceless ancient cultural artifacts than you

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Scrooge2
It's difficult to see their point of view here. The oldest relics we have in this country important to national heritage is max 3-400 years old. The Chinese have stuff that's 4700 years old dating back to the Shang Dynasties. Also being listed by UNESCO means they are world protected treasures. He knew what he was doing and the price of being caught and still did it. Well fate's a Biatch ain't it?

I don't care if the guy stole the crown jewels off the queens head, he doesn't deserve to die for stealing stuff. At least in Saudi Arabia they'd just slice his arms off.

Yes he does, a thief is one of the lowest forms of life. Deterrents don't work. Throw a thief in prison for his crime and when he gets out he will go right back to thieving except for a very small proportion who lead a legitimate life after prison but the juducial system rarely punishes most criminals. What do we as a society do? Accept the thieves? I say not....you steal and get caught you die. Crime rates would plummet if the death penalty was mandatory for more crimes but sadly the pansy liberals want to give everything away so it will never happen. At least in Texas we can use deadly force to protect our property and lives so if you break in to my house between my dogs and guns it is more than likely a death sentence. If I'm the one who falls at least I died standing for something instead of being a useless pansy.

We need more of you kind to sit on juries, rather than the non-working kumbaya hippies that normally end up there.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Scrooge2
It's difficult to see their point of view here. The oldest relics we have in this country important to national heritage is max 3-400 years old. The Chinese have stuff that's 4700 years old dating back to the Shang Dynasties. Also being listed by UNESCO means they are world protected treasures. He knew what he was doing and the price of being caught and still did it. Well fate's a Biatch ain't it?

I don't care if the guy stole the crown jewels off the queens head, he doesn't deserve to die for stealing stuff. At least in Saudi Arabia they'd just slice his arms off.

Yes he does, a thief is one of the lowest forms of life. Deterrents don't work. Throw a thief in prison for his crime and when he gets out he will go right back to thieving except for a very small proportion who lead a legitimate life after prison but the juducial system rarely punishes most criminals. What do we as a society do? Accept the thieves? I say not....you steal and get caught you die. Crime rates would plummet if the death penalty was mandatory for more crimes but sadly the pansy liberals want to give everything away so it will never happen. At least in Texas we can use deadly force to protect our property and lives so if you break in to my house between my dogs and guns it is more than likely a death sentence. If I'm the one who falls at least I died standing for something instead of being a useless pansy.

I'm far from a pansy liberal. But I do value life more than possesions. You say the crime rate would plummet, I say the crime rate would skyrocket. The difference is only in who's committing the crimes. Death for stealing is a crime too.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DAWeinG

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

But it's just not any stuff, it's priceless treasures. If the stuff he was stealing wasn't one of a kind, then it would be kind of harsh to kill him.

Why does it matter? It's only stuff, maybe it's worth alot, but it's just STUFF! It's not life or anything close to it.

Another stupid death penalty opponent. I would sentence that guy to death twice.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: DAWeinG

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
The dude stole priceless national treasury as an official. It's not like he was stealing food for survial, he stole it for a fat profit. So you say the Chinese government is too corrupt, now they put the clamp down, now you say they are too strict?

Stealing priceless national treasury and selling for a big fat profit deserve death, I don't give a sh!t if you are just stealing, becuase when u do that, you are selling your country's history and heritage to the buyers. To me thats the same thing as stabbing your own country in the back.

I guess I value human life a bit more than most others in this thread.

human life is cheap in china

Obviously. They're killing people for stealing stuff.

But it's just not any stuff, it's priceless treasures. If the stuff he was stealing wasn't one of a kind, then it would be kind of harsh to kill him.

Why does it matter? It's only stuff, maybe it's worth alot, but it's just STUFF! It's not life or anything close to it.

Another stupid death penalty opponent. I would sentence that guy to death twice.

I'm all for the death penalty actually. Just not for stealing.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Scrooge2
It's difficult to see their point of view here. The oldest relics we have in this country important to national heritage is max 3-400 years old. The Chinese have stuff that's 4700 years old dating back to the Shang Dynasties. Also being listed by UNESCO means they are world protected treasures. He knew what he was doing and the price of being caught and still did it. Well fate's a Biatch ain't it?

I don't care if the guy stole the crown jewels off the queens head, he doesn't deserve to die for stealing stuff. At least in Saudi Arabia they'd just slice his arms off.

Yes he does, a thief is one of the lowest forms of life. Deterrents don't work. Throw a thief in prison for his crime and when he gets out he will go right back to thieving except for a very small proportion who lead a legitimate life after prison but the juducial system rarely punishes most criminals. What do we as a society do? Accept the thieves? I say not....you steal and get caught you die. Crime rates would plummet if the death penalty was mandatory for more crimes but sadly the pansy liberals want to give everything away so it will never happen. At least in Texas we can use deadly force to protect our property and lives so if you break in to my house between my dogs and guns it is more than likely a death sentence. If I'm the one who falls at least I died standing for something instead of being a useless pansy.

maybe a little harsh for petty thieft.

But in cases like Ken Ley i would love to seen him get more then the slap on the wrist he got. He destroyed how many people's lives? pfft. rott in prison i say.

But not a bad idea

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Scrooge2
It's difficult to see their point of view here. The oldest relics we have in this country important to national heritage is max 3-400 years old. The Chinese have stuff that's 4700 years old dating back to the Shang Dynasties. Also being listed by UNESCO means they are world protected treasures. He knew what he was doing and the price of being caught and still did it. Well fate's a Biatch ain't it?

I don't care if the guy stole the crown jewels off the queens head, he doesn't deserve to die for stealing stuff. At least in Saudi Arabia they'd just slice his arms off.

Yes he does, a thief is one of the lowest forms of life. Deterrents don't work. Throw a thief in prison for his crime and when he gets out he will go right back to thieving except for a very small proportion who lead a legitimate life after prison but the juducial system rarely punishes most criminals. What do we as a society do? Accept the thieves? I say not....you steal and get caught you die. Crime rates would plummet if the death penalty was mandatory for more crimes but sadly the pansy liberals want to give everything away so it will never happen. At least in Texas we can use deadly force to protect our property and lives so if you break in to my house between my dogs and guns it is more than likely a death sentence. If I'm the one who falls at least I died standing for something instead of being a useless pansy.

maybe a little harsh for petty thieft.

But in cases like Ken Ley i would love to seen him get more then the slap on the wrist he got. He destroyed how many people's lives? pfft. rott in prison i say.

But not a bad idea

Rot in prison I may agree with. Death? no.