WTF is wrong with parts of the U.S?

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world?

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

This was six on one, homes. A little one sided, don't you think? If six people jumped you and started kicking your ass, wouldn't you fear for your life?

 

[Nerva]

another reason why i would never live in the south. NYC for the win.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world?

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

This was six on one, homes. A little one sided, don't you think? If six people jumped you and started kicking your ass, wouldn't you fear for your life?

If I started hanging nooses because was a racist little prick, I'd fully expect to get my ass kicked.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Kristi Boyett, a white resident, is not so nostalgic. She and her family are leaving Jena "because of the racist stuff that's going on here," she said.

She fears for her children's safety in the public schools, she said, and she's not surprised that racial tension in Jena has reached a breaking point.

"That's the way this town's always been. I've lived here for 16 years, and it's been segregated since we lived here," she said.

When even white residents of the town (who comprise the majority BTW) are complaining about racism and segregation, that's a pretty good indication of the injustice that's going on there.

The attempted murder charges are bullshit, but the worst thing is the lack of hate crime charges against the three white kids who originally hung the nooses.

Generally any attempt to cause permenent hard to an individual is attempted murder. In this case the attackers repearedly beat a person on the head.

 

[thepd7]

[Vic] Wouldn't it have been easy and more convenient for the black kids to just sit in their normal spot instead of taking the white kid's tree spot? I mean, it would have been convenient. and easy. We should definately be giving up our right to sit anywhere because it's convenient.

but I am a fire-breathing champion of civil rights. [/Vic]

 

[BurnItDwn]

Sounds to me like the kids hanging the nooses were threatening the other kids. The kids didn't like to be threatened, the authorities did not react strongly enough at all, so they taught the noose hanger dude a lesson.

I mean, what kind of a fvcking tard goes around hanging nooses from trees where people of a different race like to hang out. It sounds like he had the beating coming to him.

 

[michaels]

Yeah racism is only a Southern thing....

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world?

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

This was six on one, homes. A little one sided, don't you think? If six people jumped you and started kicking your ass, wouldn't you fear for your life?

If I started hanging nooses because was a racist little prick, I'd fully expect to get my ass kicked.

i agree. but the kid they beat up was not the one that did it.

 

[BigJ]

We have ignorant racist, lowlife whites on the one hand, and thug blacks on the other. Not a good combination.

And the school board? Fire the lot of them. Get more people like the Principal, who said those punk ass kids needed to be expelled, on the board.

And when 6 kids jump a single person, I really don't think that's battery. If they get you to the ground in a situation like that (which they did), you better be praying for your life. The boy is lucky he wasn't brain damaged or killed.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: meltdown75
A bunch of kids fighting = third world?

Where I live if a black kid beats up a white kid and he is released from the hospital the same day .... there is no chance he is going to be charged with attempted murder .

The whole thing is b.s.

Where I live stomping and kicking an unconscious person is called attempted murder. How soon he got out of the hospital is irrelevant. If I shoot you but it only grazes you and you get out of the hospital with a few stitches the same day what should I be charged with?

As far as the current case, while what they are accused of qualifies for attempted murder, the judge should have looked at the circumstances and lowered the charges IMO.

 

[Syringer]

The always-smiling 16-year-old often spent weekends on the couch, munching Little Debbie snack cakes, watching football and dreaming of a day he might join his heroes in the NFL.

Sitting on the couch won't get him there.

However having a violent criminal history might do it.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: BigJ
We have ignorant racist, lowlife whites on the one hand, and thug blacks on the other. Not a good combination.

And the school board? Fire the lot of them. Get more people like the Principal, who said those punk ass kids needed to be expelled, on the board.

And when 6 kids jump a single person, I really don't think that's battery. If they get you to the ground in a situation like that (which they did), you better be praying for your life. The boy is lucky he wasn't brain damaged or killed.

Exactly.

Now if the two groups collided, I could see the whole lot getting assault charges, but when six people jump one person, I think that's attempted murder.

I've had two people attack me before and found it a tough, scary situation, now six? That's like looking at death in the face.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Syringer

The always-smiling 16-year-old often spent weekends on the couch, munching Little Debbie snack cakes, watching football and dreaming of a day he might join his heroes in the NFL.

Sitting on the couch won't get him there.

However having a violent criminal history might do it.

yah because no one who played highschool football ever sat around on the weekends watching football ... :roll:

 

[Aimster]

"I raped a woman and I slit the woman's throat and she is still recovering ..... I kicked a white kid for calling me the N word with my boys"

l

 

[torpid]

If you think this is anything close to as bad as the type of stuff that happens in "real" third world countries, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Aimster
If this is so common to all of you then maybe you should stop reading CNN.com for posting this story on their front-page. They wasted my time and your time apparently because this stuff happens all the time. NOT.

I don't know if you all sat in the corner in high school reading your WIRED magazine, but fights happen on a weekly basis at high schools. How many of those kids are charged with attempted murder?

Stop crying about my title. If you think what happened to these kids is justified you might as well plan to retire in some third world nation. The rewards are much better than Florida and whenever you pick up the newspaper you'll be reading about the minority being sent off to long-term prison sentences by a judge from the majority for pity crimes.

how many of those weekly fights have kids going to the hospital with blood clotted eyes? not too many. fighting i a natural thing in any high school, but stomping a kid is definitely not the norm there. it happened at my school a couple times, a skinhead gang stomped down a couple punk rockers i knew (well, i knew the skins too). one of the guys that got stomped ended up with spinal injury and went blind in one eye when he was kicked too hard with a steel toe boot to the face. that guy went away for 6 years for that stunt. the other 4 skins got anywhere from 6 months to 5 years probation for it all. they were white skinheads beating on a couple white punks. these kids should have some consequence for their rash actions, and i dont see a few years incarceration as a huge price to pay for their own stupidity.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: torpid
If you think this is anything close to as bad as the type of stuff that happens in "real" third world countries, you are sadly mistaken.

Correct.

A quick google search will show you the kinds of atrocities that really happen in third world countries. Jena, Louisiana will look like Beverly Hills compared to some of those places.

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Aimster
If this is so common to all of you then maybe you should stop reading CNN.com for posting this story on their front-page. They wasted my time and your time apparently because this stuff happens all the time. NOT.

I don't know if you all sat in the corner in high school reading your WIRED magazine, but fights happen on a weekly basis at high schools. How many of those kids are charged with attempted murder?

Stop crying about my title. If you think what happened to these kids is justified you might as well plan to retire in some third world nation. The rewards are much better than Florida and whenever you pick up the newspaper you'll be reading about the minority being sent off to long-term prison sentences by a judge from the majority for pity crimes.

If Im understanding the sequence of events properly, I would say the attempted murder charges stem from the 6 on 1 gang beating. If it was 1 on 1 or something, that'd be a different story.


With that said, I still think attempted murder charges are to severe given the other things that occurred. The 'Jena 6' should be punished, but so should all the white people who participated in the hanging of the nooses. That is inciting violence, which Im sure is some sort of a crime. 3 days suspension? WTF. I got 3 days suspension for getting in a pushing fight with one of my best friends in high school. They should get a hell of a lot more than that.

 

[ric1287]

wait wait, so in these mystical 3rd world countries aimster is talking about.....high school kids are often charged with murder for beating up someone? Heh, i always thought it was, you know, starvation, war, mass genocide. But i guess this compares.

idiot

 

[Aimster]

I think many people in here have a different idea of what the hell third world really means.

Besides the United States and most of Europe, everyone else is part of the third world (for the most part)
Genocide is not part of the majority of the third world. In fact neither is starvation.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I think many people in here have a different idea of what the hell third world really means.

Besides the United States and most of Europe, everyone else is part of the third world (for the most part)
Genocide is not part of the majority of the third world. In fact neither is starvation.

naw fool...look up the definition of third world. anyway, its an antiquated term.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I was wondering when ATOT was going to get wind of this... I live a few miles from Jena and have known about it for weeks now.

My opinion on the matter is that there were stupid actions from both white and black people in this case.

So the guy wants to stand under the damn oak tree. Why make a big production out of it? Go stand there. Try and hang out. Talk to some people. No, this dude goes to the principle to ask for permission? He obviously just wanted his ass covered because he planned on starting some shit. I know that some of the whites would have more than likely acted like the illiterate racists hicks that their parents raised them to be, but not all of them. I daresay the majority of them would have been cool with it. You can't just force yourself into a social group, loudly declaring that you have the right to be there so everyone can just stuff it. That's not the way to make peace and gain true equality now is it?

Oh and those fucking inbred hillbillies certainly did their fair share of damage. Hanging nooses? Jeeezus... People around here need to realize that the Klan was never cool...even if daddy was a Grand Moofah or whatever back in the day. These, and I can't stress this enough, fscking idiots thought it would be FUNNY to hang nooses in a tree during a period of racial tension in their HS. I can't believe how stupendously ignorant these fine young students must be. That's not the worst of it though. The school administration was clearly watching out for "their own" when they decided on a 3 day suspension as punishment. Either that or they're completely detached from the goings on in their school. This type of thing no doubt happens on a regular basis in Jena.

About that "all white jury". Several black members of the community were summoned for jury duty and none showed up in court. Whether this was some kind of protest or avoidance of duty I don't know. I do think that the sentence delivered by the jury seems to fit the crime perfectly. Is that or is that not what Bell did? Considering his previous offenses I think that he had used up all of his "slaps on the wrist" and was due for a real charge, which he got.

 

[Legendary]

The arson remains unsolved, but many suspect it's linked to the discord strangling Jena High.

Word choice editor, WORD CHOICE!

 

[CKent]

It really is too bad the north won the civil war. The south could be its own backwards christian nation instead of dragging the rest of us down with it.

 

[DangerAardvark]

I think it's insulting to charge the kids with attempted murder. It's a complete affront to their murdering skills.