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WTF is up with gas.....2 days ago...$3.09...today..3.49

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I filled up at 3.79 a couple days ago, itll last me a couple weeks. Lets see where its at then, lol.

when i saw oil futures skyrocket last weds, i filled up immiately at $3.15/gallon.

the next day it's at $3.45 😱 WTF gouging gas stations!!!!!!!! the high price gas they ordered is still on ships arriving to america 😡

hopefully with oil going down, gas will go back to normal.
i need to fill up this tues nite after work.
 
And should be illegal. Didn't the (U.S. Government) say they would aggressively pursue recorded complaints of price gouging?

Not if it's the SEC, FTC, or other Federal agency populated by ex Wall Street types who are buddy buddy with the current pack of wolves on Wall Street.
 
I have a 1995 5.0 GT Vert. I spend $35 everyday to fill her up for my normal driving. The pump kicks off @ 10.5 gallons FULL so now its $40 everyday to fill up 😱 :\

Im saving for a shitty good MPG DD right now.
 
I have a 1995 5.0 GT Vert. I spend $35 everyday to fill her up for my normal driving. The pump kicks off @ 10.5 gallons FULL so now its $40 everyday to fill up 😱 :\

Im saving for a shitty good MPG DD right now.

That's a lot of driving!
 
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It's interesting how much US gas prices change in terms of percentage. Lower taxes means a larger percentage of the fuel cost is actual fuel, so fluctuating fuel means wildly fluctuating prices. In the places with higher tax rates (fucking canada), the prices seem a lot more stable. I filled up 2 days ago and it was $1.05/L ($3.97 per US gallon). I remember that back in 2005, gas prices were usually around $0.85 ($3.21 per US gallon). That was normal prices then and now we're talking about "high" prices, but it's really only about a 25% change over a span of 5-6 years. That sucks, but Canadians can deal with that rate of change.

You guys in the US had much cheaper fuel in 2005. You're not looking at 25% jump in fuel price, you're looking at 50%, 60%, maybe more. That's a change that is really hard to deal with. You buy a small truck under the assumption that fuel will be $200/month, then suddenly it's $300/month.


It's interesting because the top 10 cars in Canada are all compact cars. link. We know fuel is expensive because of the taxes so we all drive small cars. When fuel price goes up, it's a small enough percentage that we can find a way to change the budget and make it work somehow.
The best selling cars in the US are mostly midsize cars. Instead of the civic, it's the accord. Instead of the focus, it's the fusion. When fuel is cheap, your midsize car costs as much to run as my compact car. When fuel prices start to climb for whatever reason, my fuel bill goes up 10% while yours goes up 25%. It's easier to adjust to that 10% change than to adjust for 25% change even though both prices are going up by the same absolute amount.
 
I have a 1995 5.0 GT Vert. I spend $35 everyday to fill her up for my normal driving. The pump kicks off @ 10.5 gallons FULL so now its $40 everyday to fill up 😱 :\

Im saving for a shitty good MPG DD right now.

With a $900/month+ fuel bill that GT vert has GOT to be pushing 250k miles right?
 
I have a 1995 5.0 GT Vert. I spend $35 everyday to fill her up for my normal driving. The pump kicks off @ 10.5 gallons FULL so now its $40 everyday to fill up 😱 :\

Im saving for a shitty good MPG DD right now.
Sounds like just buying a shitty good MPG DD outright would be more efficient on the wallet then "saving" for one.
 
It's interesting how much US gas prices change in terms of percentage. Lower taxes means a larger percentage of the fuel cost is actual fuel, so fluctuating fuel means wildly fluctuating prices. In the places with higher tax rates (fucking canada), the prices seem a lot more stable. I filled up 2 days ago and it was $1.05/L ($3.97 per US gallon). I remember that back in 2005, gas prices were usually around $0.85 ($3.21 per US gallon). That was normal prices then and now we're talking about "high" prices, but it's really only about a 25% change over a span of 5-6 years. That sucks, but Canadians can deal with that rate of change.

You guys in the US had much cheaper fuel in 2005. You're not looking at 25% jump in fuel price, you're looking at 50%, 60%, maybe more. That's a change that is really hard to deal with. You buy a small truck under the assumption that fuel will be $200/month, then suddenly it's $300/month.


It's interesting because the top 10 cars in Canada are all compact cars. link. We know fuel is expensive because of the taxes so we all drive small cars. When fuel price goes up, it's a small enough percentage that we can find a way to change the budget and make it work somehow.
The best selling cars in the US are mostly midsize cars. Instead of the civic, it's the accord. Instead of the focus, it's the fusion. When fuel is cheap, your midsize car costs as much to run as my compact car. When fuel prices start to climb for whatever reason, my fuel bill goes up 10% while yours goes up 25%. It's easier to adjust to that 10% change than to adjust for 25% change even though both prices are going up by the same absolute amount.


Is this some strange Canadian way of saying you would rather pay higher amounts most of the time, so it doesnt "feel" like prices are spiking when they do?


LOL.
 
Sounds like just buying a shitty good MPG DD outright would be more efficient on the wallet then "saving" for one.

I've heard a lot of my instructors and parents of friends say something like this. Back in high oil periods that pop up every few years, it's sometimes cheaper to buy a completely new car off the lot than to keep driving a gas guzzler that someone gave you for free, depending on how much you drive. One car my parents could give me for free is a 1985 GM V8 that burns literally twice as much gas as a modern 4 cylinder car. Last year my fuel budget was around $2000 per year for the 4 cylinder, so that would be about $4000 per year to drive the free gas guzzler. That would mean $2000 per year on car payments to break even.
 
Is this some strange Canadian way of saying you would rather pay higher amounts most of the time, so it doesnt "feel" like prices are spiking when they do?


LOL.

watch that mouth, we've killed 2 of your presidents and we can kill a third if we need to
 
either you're still at home, living with mommy and daddy... and dont have a car... or you're unemployed.


either way, a car is essential in this day and age for those of us with a family to support.

you try lugging a weeks worth of groceries on the bus, or the train?

Nah I own my own house and my wife and I commute 45 min each way separately but there always seems to be much less traffic when gas prices get high. More people carpool or something. I like it.
 
Nah I own my own house and my wife and I commute 45 min each way separately but there always seems to be much less traffic when gas prices get high. More people carpool or something. I like it.
Scroll up 3 posts to see why.

YEAH IMMA GET A TRUCK.
*gas goes up 20%*
FUCK IMA CAR POOL NOW
 
I've heard a lot of my instructors and parents of friends say something like this. Back in high oil periods that pop up every few years, it's sometimes cheaper to buy a completely new car off the lot than to keep driving a gas guzzler that someone gave you for free, depending on how much you drive. One car my parents could give me for free is a 1985 GM V8 that burns literally twice as much gas as a modern 4 cylinder car. Last year my fuel budget was around $2000 per year for the 4 cylinder, so that would be about $4000 per year to drive the free gas guzzler. That would mean $2000 per year on car payments to break even.
Yeah brand new can be tough cause it's hard to break even especially if you count in plates and insurance cost of new. In your case the free 1985 is hard to beat unless the thing is falling apart and you are sinking lots of money into repairs.

I prefer just buying 5-10 year old gas mobiles for daily beaters (my current is a 16 year old Corolla), cheap on gas, cheap on insurance, cheap on plates and you don't have to care at all about door dings 😉
 
Yeah brand new can be tough cause it's hard to break even especially if you count in plates and insurance cost of new. In your case the free 1985 is hard to beat unless the thing is falling apart and you are sinking lots of money into repairs.
"free" is the condition a lot of people are working with because they're talking about a vehicle they already own 😉
 
I prefer just buying 5-10 year old gas mobiles for daily beaters (my current is a 16 year old Corolla), cheap on gas, cheap on insurance, cheap on plates and you don't have to care at all about door dings 😉

This.. I always pay cash for my commuter cars.

As I understand the older Civics circca 2000-2003 actually get better milage than the new ones assuming they arent all clapped out.

Just bought a 03' Jetta TDI last year for 5k, gets right around 45-50mpg. Replaced a 97' Escort that got 30mpg ( still not bad). I rideshare too, so my buddy and I only have to buy 12g Diesel ea per month.


I also haven't noticed the trend oilfield was talking about, people buying new gass guzzlers since fuel got "cheap" again. Out here, working people seem to be still downsizing where possible & the section 8-ers are LOVING those dirt cheap Escalades with high interest rate financing.
 
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Mine creeped up past $3 today. I drive a Ford Mustang and eats through gas. I'm sicking of filling up my tank every 3-4 days. I hardly have enough money to eat.
 
Mine creeped up past $3 today. I drive a Ford Mustang and eats through gas. I'm sicking of filling up my tank every 3-4 days. I hardly have enough money to eat.
 
Its just a matter of time. Don't act like what you want doesn't exist. They do, just not where you live right now.

It's a misnomer to call the Volt a hybrid. It's not meant for long-haul stuff, and its a plug in. On the off chance you need to run more than 35 miles or so the motor keeps you from getting stranded. It isn't like the prius at all and normally if you run round town it'll never turn on the motor.

Sorry to see you are in Canada. Cold isn't the best market for electrics so maybe if you move out of the sticks (hockey) you can enjoy the all-electric love we are getting so soon.

6-8 hours of charging IS the norm and its doable for most people. 200 miles of range on a Leaf is plenty for that 6-8 hours. Volts need even less charging time. You go home, plug in, by the time you wake up its charged. Whats the issue? You won't be taking long 500 mile trips in your car anymore thats all. You would have a gas burner if thats what is important to you. Who drives that far anymore anyways?

Oh and if you regularly need to drive 20 miles or more 1 way - look to the Leaf, but more than likely an electric just isn't for you.

Ha, I didn't mean to sound so negative...I will gladly welcome the day when electric vehicles are widely available. However, I'm in Greater Vancouver, which is not exactly cold, nor in the "sticks" 😉. They would work just fine here.

The Leaf's range works for the vast majority of people almost all of the time. It would work for me too as I don't drive a lot.

The only downside would be for when you want to take a road-trip somewhere. I suppose you would need to rent a gas-powered car for that.
 
It's completely baffling to me why people move out to suburbs where the buses don't run then buy trucks and drive to work. My company moved downtown recently so my transportation dropped from $200/mo for gasoline (i lived on the opposite side of the city) to $84 /mo for a bus pass. The coworkers in the suburbs are getting raped harder than words can describe. Try about $300 per month for gas to drive a light truck to work then another $300/mo for parking (yes it really does cost 300 to park). Just by living in the suburbs, transportation costs go up to $7000 per year per person.

Now I just drive around for the sake of wasting gas and pissing off people like Dave. Yesterday I drove around town for an hour to get some fresh air while listening to the radio and fucking around with the e-brake in some parking lots 😀

You've hit upon the modern conundrum. Do you choose to live in the suburbs where you can afford to buy a decent sized house, but spend an assload of time and money commuting to work? Or do you rent/buy an apartment or smaller home closer to work and use transit more?

The latter is more sustainable, creates less waste and pollution and allows for smarter land use (you can have work, shopping and recreation in the same spaces or nearby, instead of separated by several km, necessitating driving).

But hey, people like their big houses, and they like their cars (or big-ass trucks) *shrug*.
 
Our cars are a 5.4 Max-tow F150, and a Mustang GT. Our commute is 20 miles each way. Luckily we work in the same office so we only take 1 car, but damn is it expensive.

I dont even want to know what it will cost to tow our toy-hauler out to the river this year....yikes.
 
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You've hit upon the modern conundrum. Do you choose to live in the suburbs where you can afford to buy a decent sized house, but spend an assload of time and money commuting to work? Or do you rent/buy an apartment or smaller home closer to work and use transit more?
Shouldn't be too hard of a decision. It's different for every person and every city, but you wouldn't buy a property unless you knew you were picking the right one. If I'm working right in the heart of downtown where the transportation really is $5k to drive from the 'burbs, then I can just add that to the cost of any suburb property to understand what the actual cost of that property is. Assume the 5k only applies to me (not the wife), I plan to work (and own property) for another 40+ years, so 5k * 40 years = $200,000 in additional transportation cost. So if there's a house in the city located next to a train/bus station for $300,000 and there's a house in the suburbs for $200,000 I would need to add another $200,000 on top of that to get $400,000 for the suburb house.
It really does make a huge difference. My parents both took the bus to work for most of their careers, so for my entire childhood they drove the same cars. After almost 20 years of owning those cars, they put less than 200,000km (125,000 miles) on each of them! Some people burn through a car every 5 years. Imaging having the same car for almost two decades.

Maybe I'll move out to the suburbs when it's time to retire. Then I don't need to bus or drive downtown, I'm still close to my city, less ghetto trash, bigger yard, etc.
 
may i ask what it is you do that enables you to burn money so fabulously, without consequence?

nice touch. no need to put the boat gas in the truck. hell, do it the other way around!

I dont burn money. I simply like to do out door activities with my family, as do they. I would rather sacrifice in another area, than stop camping or boating. There are tons of "little" things most people waste money on. Do away with some of those and it lets you continue life as normal.
 
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