WTF? Inmate held in MD jail for running over and killing cop; murdered in solitary confinement

[her209]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

You're right. All police are scumbags and are out to get everyone.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

You're right. All police are scumbags and are out to get everyone.

Um, no. All police are upstanding citizens and never break the law.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

Yep, they just kill whoever they think is guilty. Clearly taking 1 example and applying it to hundreds of thousands of police offiecers is a very intelligent idea.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

they have no cameras for this very reason, they don't want what they do to be recorded on video. As it stands now the dude was obviously murdered. But with lack of cameras the killer will never be found and nobody will be punished for this.

The cop who killed him is just as bad as the the guy for running over the cop, there is no difference, 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Cop who did this deserves to rot in jail forever.
But with no evidence and no cops willing to speak out, there won't even be much of an investigation. They'll pretend to look into it just enough to make the few people in the public who are outraged content. A shame most people will say "he had it coming to him fuck him!" a person died...

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

Yep, they just kill whoever they think is guilty. Clearly taking 1 example and applying it to hundreds of thousands of police offiecers is a very intelligent idea.

Clearly its just this one time and therefore its ok if no one goes unpunished.

 

[thecrecarc]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

Yep, they just kill whoever they think is guilty. Clearly taking 1 example and applying it to hundreds of thousands of police offiecers is a very intelligent idea.

Habeas Corpus is just so.. bulky. I think we should get rid of it.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: CPA
Are we sure this wasn't a suicide?

Also,

"We live in a constitutional democracy, and no one has the right to be judge and jury."

Uh, no we don't. Stupid lawyer.

How can someone strangle themselves and break their neck in solitary confinement?

If you hang yourself you can do it.

If a rope is put to the side of your kneck and then pulled it can break your neck. If it is placed behind your head then your neck will probable hold and you will choke.

except there was no garrote/rope. We was found 'strangled' not hanged.

 

[alkemyst]

My money is one of the cops killed their own by mistake and should this guy have testified it would become known.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
My money is one of the cops killed their own by mistake and should this guy have testified it would become known.

Is my sarcasm meter broken?

 

[Mahaguru]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Mahaguru
It's an X-file.

Yep. Findley's telekinetic strangling ghost. You can run but you can't hide.

lol, I saw that telekinetic strangling episode on SciFi last night.

 

[clamum]

Guilty until proven innocent?

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Pocatello

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: CPA
Are we sure this wasn't a suicide?

Also,

"We live in a constitutional democracy, and no one has the right to be judge and jury."

Uh, no we don't. Stupid lawyer.

How can someone strangle themselves and break their neck in solitary confinement?

If you hang yourself you can do it.

If a rope is put to the side of your kneck and then pulled it can break your neck. If it is placed behind your head then your neck will probable hold and you will choke.

I think they can tell the difference between someone who committed suicide by hanging and someone who was strangled. The lack of a rope would likely rule out suicide by hanging. 😉

He killed himself and then he hid the rope.

He used an ice rope.

😀

Thank you sir... that made my day.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Wheezer
don't kill cops, and you don't face possible vigilante justice from others in law enforcement/corrections.....pretty cut and dry really.

So, what you're saying is that you believe cops are so morally perfect that they deserve to be above the law? Because that's sure what it sounds like.

Well I am glad you are asking the questions before jumping to conclusions, but no that is not what I meant.

I did not say this was right, I did not say I agreed with it.

The true facts are humans by their nature are emotional beings, some are better at keeping those emotions in check and at bay while others are not.

What sets off one person may have no effect on another or the other may be able to deal with it better.

One of the triggers of an emotional response in law enforcement is the killing of one of their own. It is not unheard of that those convicted of such a crime either through the courts OR in the court of public opinion often face swift and brutal vigilante justice often by those who are emotionally charged and fail to contain their anger.

is this right?....no

is this fair?.....no

is this how things should get handled?....no

but it happens because like other human beings some of those in law enforcement cannot control themselves, it has always been that way and will always continue to be that way.

The BEST way to avoid that scenario?....don't kill a cop.

Makes sense doesn't it?

not if the law makes an effort to catch the one of their own and put him in jail for homicide

and wait ...

"don't kill a cop."

so given a choice between a cop and "regular" joe, kill the joe instead?

wtf is wrong with your comprehension skills?

where did I say that?

where did I imply any of that?

I clearly and concisely stated my point why this kind of thing happens.

I did not justify it.

I did not say it was appropriate.

If you kill a cop, it is reasonable to expect that someone, somewhere along the line may take matters into their own hands. I clearly stated that and I stated why.

It's like some moron sneaking into the cage and getting mauled by a lion at the zoo, don't want to get mauled and chewed up?...... don't go in the fucking cage.

If you do not want to run the risk of someone with a badge taking matters into their own hands while you are in custody for killing a cop...DON'T KILL A FUCKING COP.

how goddamned hard is that to comprehend?

 

[Playmaker]

It seems stories like this and the psycho in Texas are a regular occurrence.

Add that to our crime stats and the fact that we still actually use the death penalty, and from a crime/law enforcement point of view we're a lot closer to the third world than we are to the many more developed nations.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
If you do not want to run the risk of someone with a badge taking matters into their own hands while you are in custody for killing a cop...DON'T KILL A FUCKING COP.

What if you're just accused of killing a cop, like Ronnie White?

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Wheezer
don't kill cops, and you don't face possible vigilante justice from others in law enforcement/corrections.....pretty cut and dry really.

So, what you're saying is that you believe cops are so morally perfect that they deserve to be above the law? Because that's sure what it sounds like.

Well I am glad you are asking the questions before jumping to conclusions, but no that is not what I meant.

I did not say this was right, I did not say I agreed with it.

The true facts are humans by their nature are emotional beings, some are better at keeping those emotions in check and at bay while others are not.

What sets off one person may have no effect on another or the other may be able to deal with it better.

One of the triggers of an emotional response in law enforcement is the killing of one of their own. It is not unheard of that those convicted of such a crime either through the courts OR in the court of public opinion often face swift and brutal vigilante justice often by those who are emotionally charged and fail to contain their anger.

is this right?....no

is this fair?.....no

is this how things should get handled?....no

but it happens because like other human beings some of those in law enforcement cannot control themselves, it has always been that way and will always continue to be that way.

The BEST way to avoid that scenario?....don't kill a cop.

Makes sense doesn't it?

The best way is to not be a douchbag by supporting people's illegal and wrong actions. Emotional distress IS NOT suitable for killing ANY one. This was definitely plotted out, and he will definitely get first degree murder.

The BEST way to avoid this scenario? Punish people who break laws, even LEO's. A cop got arrested for selling/buying drugs in a county near me. Lock him up. LEO's are held to a higher standard because they're entrusted with PROTECTING citizens. The guy should have got his day in court and then the death penalty if the jury wanted it. End of story.

 

[TruePaige]

This man was innocent in the eyes of the law. No one had proven him guilty. He never had his day in court, but I hope all the officers responsible are found and I'm sure they will be lucky enough to get theirs.

 

[Rhaze]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yep almost as bad as some guy running out and shooting 2 people, without guns, in their back as they ran from him. 😉

Aside from being nothing at all like that and not even slightly related, Yeh.. absolutely.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: thecrecarc

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

Yep, they just kill whoever they think is guilty. Clearly taking 1 example and applying it to hundreds of thousands of police offiecers is a very intelligent idea.

Habeas Corpus is just so.. bulky. I think we should get rid of it.

Doh! 🙂 lol.


I hope they find out what CO did this/allowed this to happen, charge him, and sentence him to the appropriate punishment.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: Vonkhan

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Wheezer
don't kill cops, and you don't face possible vigilante justice from others in law enforcement/corrections.....pretty cut and dry really.

So, what you're saying is that you believe cops are so morally perfect that they deserve to be above the law? Because that's sure what it sounds like.

Well I am glad you are asking the questions before jumping to conclusions, but no that is not what I meant.

I did not say this was right, I did not say I agreed with it.

The true facts are humans by their nature are emotional beings, some are better at keeping those emotions in check and at bay while others are not.

What sets off one person may have no effect on another or the other may be able to deal with it better.

One of the triggers of an emotional response in law enforcement is the killing of one of their own. It is not unheard of that those convicted of such a crime either through the courts OR in the court of public opinion often face swift and brutal vigilante justice often by those who are emotionally charged and fail to contain their anger.

is this right?....no

is this fair?.....no

is this how things should get handled?....no

but it happens because like other human beings some of those in law enforcement cannot control themselves, it has always been that way and will always continue to be that way.

The BEST way to avoid that scenario?....don't kill a cop.

Makes sense doesn't it?

not if the law makes an effort to catch the one of their own and put him in jail for homicide

and wait ...

"don't kill a cop."

so given a choice between a cop and "regular" joe, kill the joe instead?

wtf is wrong with your comprehension skills?

where did I say that?

where did I imply any of that?

I clearly and concisely stated my point why this kind of thing happens.

I did not justify it.

I did not say it was appropriate.

If you kill a cop, it is reasonable to expect that someone, somewhere along the line may take matters into their own hands. I clearly stated that and I stated why.

It's like some moron sneaking into the cage and getting mauled by a lion at the zoo, don't want to get mauled and chewed up?...... don't go in the fucking cage.

If you do not want to run the risk of someone with a badge taking matters into their own hands while you are in custody for killing a cop...DON'T KILL A FUCKING COP.

how goddamned hard is that to comprehend?

The point is or should be no different than killing any other person. LEOs are not some sort of god, they are normal people with badges.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
So when the police kill innocent bystanders, and they do, is it okay for us to go and kill them? Some of you are making it sound like this was justified.

This guy didn't kill and innocent bystander. The guy willingly murdered a person with his car, slight difference.

I am not condongin vigilante justice, but to compare the scum that ran over the cop to an accidental casuality is idiotic.

You're right. They use their guns and say it was self-defense.

Ah, you got me! Cops really just murder anyone they feel like. There is also no system in place, like camera's, mic's, or review boards. They should really think about implementing something like that.

Maybe they should assume everyone is "innocent until proven guilty" as well?

That's crazy talk! :Q

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: QueBert
they have no cameras for this very reason, they don't want what they do to be recorded on video. As it stands now the dude was obviously murdered. But with lack of cameras the killer will never be found and nobody will be punished for this.

The cop who killed him is just as bad as the the guy for running over the cop, there is no difference, 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Cop who did this deserves to rot in jail forever.
But with no evidence and no cops willing to speak out, there won't even be much of an investigation. They'll pretend to look into it just enough to make the few people in the public who are outraged content. A shame most people will say "he had it coming to him fuck him!" a person died...

Do you honestly think that the FBI isn't going to figure out which guard was where? At the very least, they'll be able to narrow it down to two guards, with certainty that each would know the actions of the other, and nail them with conspiracy to commit murder.