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erub

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how about this one: critical enough?

Hong Kong news baron's zeal for democracy undimmed
Story Highlights
Media tycoon Jimmy Lai is a staunch China critic and democracy advocate

Lai's runs Hong Kong's largest listed media group, which is in robust health

His anti-establishment stance has meant boycotts from Beijing-friendly firms

Lai believes Beijing could allow Hong Kong to elect its leader within 10 years

HONG KONG, China (Reuters) -- Media tycoon Jimmy Lai is a rarity in Hong Kong's business circles, a staunch China critic and democracy advocate who has overcome local hostility to succeed with a mix of pragmatism and a Midas touch.

Stretching back in his sunlit office, decorated with a large, colorful painting of parrots by Chinese artist Walasse Ting, Lai seems a picture of confidence some 10 years after the former British colony reverted to Chinese rule on July 1, 1997.

"We're lucky ... I didn't expect things to go this way, I was a pessimist about China, but things have gone much better than I expected," said Lai of the current state of press freedom.

Lai's Next Media empire, the city's largest listed media group which runs magazines and newspapers in Hong Kong and Taiwan, is in robust health.

The Apple Daily, his populist newspaper known for its gratuitous sex and violence with a staunch anti-China, pro-democracy stance, is the city's second-most popular daily with a circulation of around 300,000.

But Lai says there has been a notable trend of self-censorship at rival newspapers since the handover to avoid offending Beijing and harming commercial interests in the city and in China where personal relationships or "guanxi" are a key ingredient for business.

"It's all self-censorship, nobody did it because of persecution, intimidation or threats," Lai told Reuters.

But Lai says his anti-establishment stance has meant "advertising boycotts" from Beijing-friendly firms, costing him HK$200 million ($26 million) annually in lost potential revenue.

Ostracized but comfortable
Mainland-born Lai, 58, a stocky figure with a boxer's build and crewcut hair who was smuggled into Hong Kong on a fishing boat at the age of 12, considers himself a rebel for his convictions, and a pragmatic businessman rather than an idealist.

Lai says the June 4, 1989 crackdown in Beijing spurred him to switch from the garment to newspaper business.

He describes the People's Republic as a "pariah state" and once dubbed then-premier Li Peng "a son of a turtle egg," a highly offensive Chinese term, for his role in the bloody 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown.

Lai believes Beijing could allow Hong Kong to directly elect its leader within 10 years, but not in a "100 percent pure form" -- something the pragmatic tycoon is willing to accept.

"At the end of the day, unless we make a compromise, a deal is very difficult to get struck ... You just have to compromise in order to overcome (Beijing's) psychological barrier to democracy and freedom," he said.

"History will prevail, people will prevail, democracy will prevail," he added.




 

SVT Cobra

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: erub
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: erub
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jpeyton
Arabic covers quite a large segment of the world's population; more so than French or German.

China probably censors the site anyways.</end quote></div>


not true, I am in China right now, and the version looks exactly like the US version. I can even take a screenshot and we can compare if you like
</end quote></div>

What does the article about the success of democracy say?</end quote></div>

got a link? I searched for those terms on CNN.com, closest hits are about East Timor counting votes and the Hong Kong handover</end quote></div>

It was a joke I was not serious. :)


Is google censored?
 

Pepsi90919

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Oct 9, 1999
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no, not an *issue*..but i was just surprised that arabic was the next choice right after english..see my screenshots.

no you weren't, your OP clearly states,
can anyone explain why there's arabic available as language pref ?
denoting that you have an actual problem with the inclusion of the language. it's too late to backpedal now.
 

erub

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Jun 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: erub
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: erub
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jpeyton
Arabic covers quite a large segment of the world's population; more so than French or German.

China probably censors the site anyways.</end quote></div>


not true, I am in China right now, and the version looks exactly like the US version. I can even take a screenshot and we can compare if you like
</end quote></div>

What does the article about the success of democracy say?</end quote></div>

got a link? I searched for those terms on CNN.com, closest hits are about East Timor counting votes and the Hong Kong handover</end quote></div>

It was a joke I was not serious. :)


Is google censored?

mmm I dont think so. Maybe the Chinese language version is? Certain blogging websites are partially/totally blocked, and wikipedia was blocked when I first got here, so that was annoying as all the time wiki is referenced here. Although the last 2-3 weeks it has been accessible. Haven't had any other issues getting to stuff
 

ViRGE

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Oct 9, 1999
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Just so we're clear, it's not just a "set language" thing. CNN actually publishes 3 different editions of their front page. There's the US edition, the International edition, and the Arabic edition. The different editions besides the language stuff, focus on different content for the respective market; you won't find US local content on the international edition for example.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Perhaps CNN has interests in areas where the predominant language is Arabic. Who knows?

I'm still waiting for the Esperanto version. :p