Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
Originally posted by: CupCak3
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
God you are a douche. Why produce more than one car? Oh my guess is b/c of varying personal needs and wants... it is quite funny you get soo protective when someone calls your beloved CR-V ugly.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
so, ill take your fucking troll bait... and hopefully this time you wont run to mommy and bitch about how i pwned your ass...
if you read the quote, he is talking about panel fitment, how Honda > GM... i point out a specific panel fitment in which no other current manufacturer has tried to accomplish because it must be so precise, that it is better than anything honda can do, but no, let's just ignore that...
hopefully some day a fucking GM vehicle demolishes your tin can piece of shit and you die.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
so, ill take your fucking troll bait... and hopefully this time you wont run to mommy and bitch about how i pwned your ass...
if you read the quote, he is talking about panel fitment, how Honda > GM... i point out a specific panel fitment in which no other current manufacturer has tried to accomplish because it must be so precise, that it is better than anything honda can do, but no, let's just ignore that...
hopefully some day a fucking GM vehicle demolishes your tin can piece of shit and you die.
omg i feel so owned by an idiot on the internet. how about i run to your mom and pwn her ass instead?
you realize you're talking about a hood right now and how its mounted to the car right? you know theres more to a car than a hood. you're talking about something as significant as the way the rubber floor mat groves are designed. GM must make such good hoods that everyone buys their cars and they make millions of dollars. oh right, GM makes shitty cars and they went bankrupt in 2009. oh right, GM's prayer car, the VOLT is such a good car that everyone's going to buy it, probably not though.
keep hoping, it may happen one day. GM may just demolish themselves. go kill yourself MIKEMIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
so, ill take your fucking troll bait... and hopefully this time you wont run to mommy and bitch about how i pwned your ass...
if you read the quote, he is talking about panel fitment, how Honda > GM... i point out a specific panel fitment in which no other current manufacturer has tried to accomplish because it must be so precise, that it is better than anything honda can do, but no, let's just ignore that...
hopefully some day a fucking GM vehicle demolishes your tin can piece of shit and you die.
omg i feel so owned by an idiot on the internet. how about i run to your mom and pwn her ass instead?
you realize you're talking about a hood right now and how its mounted to the car right? you know theres more to a car than a hood. you're talking about something as significant as the way the rubber floor mat groves are designed. GM must make such good hoods that everyone buys their cars and they make millions of dollars. oh right, GM makes shitty cars and they went bankrupt in 2009. oh right, GM's prayer car, the VOLT is such a good car that everyone's going to buy it, probably not though.
keep hoping, it may happen one day. GM may just demolish themselves. go kill yourself MIKEMIKEMIKE
really????
You guys sound like 10 year olds arguing whether the blue power ranger is better than the red one.
The equinox is a nice vehicle and something really neat, the CR-V sells well (mostly my reputation but its fugly. There can't we all be friends now?
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
so, ill take your fucking troll bait... and hopefully this time you wont run to mommy and bitch about how i pwned your ass...
if you read the quote, he is talking about panel fitment, how Honda > GM... i point out a specific panel fitment in which no other current manufacturer has tried to accomplish because it must be so precise, that it is better than anything honda can do, but no, let's just ignore that...
hopefully some day a fucking GM vehicle demolishes your tin can piece of shit and you die.
omg i feel so owned by an idiot on the internet. how about i run to your mom and pwn her ass instead?
you realize you're talking about a hood right now and how its mounted to the car right? you know theres more to a car than a hood. you're talking about something as significant as the way the rubber floor mat groves are designed. GM must make such good hoods that everyone buys their cars and they make millions of dollars. oh right, GM makes shitty cars and they went bankrupt in 2009. oh right, GM's prayer car, the VOLT is such a good car that everyone's going to buy it, probably not though.
keep hoping, it may happen one day. GM may just demolish themselves. go kill yourself MIKEMIKEMIKE
really????
You guys sound like 10 year olds arguing whether the blue power ranger is better than the red one.
The equinox is a nice vehicle and something really neat, the CR-V sells well (mostly my reputation but its fugly. There can't we all be friends now?
its the internet, what do you expect?
not really because you're still throwing in your opinion as fact. and making false unreferenced statements.
the cr-v sells, do u have a reference saying that it sells mostly by reputation?
all your other statments are opinions and are pretty much void.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I will say that GM has come a very long way in terms of fuel economy, especially in light of how much power their cars and trucks have. I'm particularly impressed with cars like the HHR and the Cobalt. That said, where they fail and where they have always failed is in their designs and their build quality. Look at the seams between the panels on a current Honda Civic, even measure it if you want. Then, go up to any GM car save for maybe the Corvette, and see the difference.
GM is getting better but they're not there yet. They're not even close. The design problem is the most serious. Most of their cars are ugly and too heavy, without much benefit at all from the added weight. Look at the Volt and the weight of its chassis even. It's outrageous. I don't know if they try to save money on materials by using steel instead of aluminum or what. 😕
you know that no other manufacturer will do what GM has done with their hoods on the Malibu, because there is no give for any minor misalignment with the hood having only 1 side not touching another panel...
can u stop crying about a fuckin hood? its a freaking panel of a car. does it make a car THE CAR to have? definitely NO because nobody wants the malibu. people buy the accord and camry. and if they don't, they buy the altima. its real sad when the GM fans have nothing to cry about other than a car's hood.
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
nope, but give it time, the Equinox sold 13,157 last month, and the CR-V 30,857 or so, so we both know that 30k is an outrageous amount sold, and the Equinox is all new and probably did not have supply to meet demand during C4C. the CR-V is an ugly vehicle, don't get me wrong, but the Equinox is just as good in every way, and better in many...
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the cr-v is so ugly that its the #1 selling vehicle in its class and is leaps ahead of anything gm can make, such as the shitty equinox that nobody has purchased.
so, ill take your fucking troll bait... and hopefully this time you wont run to mommy and bitch about how i pwned your ass...
if you read the quote, he is talking about panel fitment, how Honda > GM... i point out a specific panel fitment in which no other current manufacturer has tried to accomplish because it must be so precise, that it is better than anything honda can do, but no, let's just ignore that...
hopefully some day a fucking GM vehicle demolishes your tin can piece of shit and you die.
omg i feel so owned by an idiot on the internet. how about i run to your mom and pwn her ass instead?
you realize you're talking about a hood right now and how its mounted to the car right? you know theres more to a car than a hood. you're talking about something as significant as the way the rubber floor mat groves are designed. GM must make such good hoods that everyone buys their cars and they make millions of dollars. oh right, GM makes shitty cars and they went bankrupt in 2009. oh right, GM's prayer car, the VOLT is such a good car that everyone's going to buy it, probably not though.
keep hoping, it may happen one day. GM may just demolish themselves. go kill yourself MIKEMIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
please tell me how the original statement "Honda's have better panel fitment" is not countered by my argument with the Malibu hood... as soon as you do this, ill stfu, but panel fitment, is panel fitment, however, not a SINGLE panel on a honda must match on 3 sides of the sheetmetal. there is more area to give and adjust just a little bit than there is on the malibu... again... please do tell how my argument is not valid.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
are you still crying about a hood and how its mounted on the car? i've NEVER closely examined the hood alignment of any car. my accord hood is perfect from all viewing angles on my car. i guess AMERICAN car fanboys must resort to desperate tactics to make the poor selling malibu look good when compared to the accord. keep trying tho, i dont think gm has made a family sedan that outsells the accord or camry yet.
when purchasing a new car, what % do you devote to "the alignment of the hood"? is it 10%? 20%? 50%? it sounds like ~50% of the entire car's quality/performance is in the hood panel.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
are you still crying about a hood and how its mounted on the car? i've NEVER closely examined the hood alignment of any car. my accord hood is perfect from all viewing angles on my car. i guess AMERICAN car fanboys must resort to desperate tactics to make the poor selling malibu look good when compared to the accord. keep trying tho, i dont think gm has made a family sedan that outsells the accord or camry yet.
when purchasing a new car, what % do you devote to "the alignment of the hood"? is it 10%? 20%? 50%? it sounds like ~50% of the entire car's quality/performance is in the hood panel.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
are you still crying about a hood and how its mounted on the car? i've NEVER closely examined the hood alignment of any car. my accord hood is perfect from all viewing angles on my car. i guess AMERICAN car fanboys must resort to desperate tactics to make the poor selling malibu look good when compared to the accord. keep trying tho, i dont think gm has made a family sedan that outsells the accord or camry yet.
when purchasing a new car, what % do you devote to "the alignment of the hood"? is it 10%? 20%? 50%? it sounds like ~50% of the entire car's quality/performance is in the hood panel.
stop deflecting... you werent the one who originally started the argument, you jumped in not understanding the argument, showed that you are a fucking troll, and cant save your ass from getting whipped... so stfu now, or discuss the original quote...
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Originally posted by: Bignate603
I can understand why people might dislike the company but it's ludicrous to act like it personally is harming them by continuing to exist. Whether or not you agree with the bail out for the car companies it's already been done. Demanding the death of the company is asinine because that will guarantee that the taxpayer will lose every dime that they put into it, whether or not they wanted to in the first place. The bailout is a sunk cost and the only way to get any money back is for the companies to continue to exist.
Wasting your tax money is personally harming you...
Propping up the UAW is as well...
A lot of folks would be of the opinion that the money isn't coming back anyway andit never was. It was gone when it was handed over to a poorly run company with few good products and giant liabilities.
Just like they were of the opinion that it would have been cheaper and easier to have declared a normal bankruptcy, which would have voided all contracts, before throwing all that money in the toilet.
Instead we threw the money in the toilet, and had some sort of strange bankruptcy anyway...which somehow benefitted the UAW...
Plus a government attempt to prop up that same company that it now has a stake in with a $3B tax money give away, that looks like it failed for GM anyway...
It was a clusterfuck the moment the admin decided to stick it's nose in, imo.
It makes my blood boil every time I think about it, and I am a long time Chevy man.
Originally posted by: AdamK47
I don't like the CRV. The ugly is hood.
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
are you still crying about a hood and how its mounted on the car? i've NEVER closely examined the hood alignment of any car. my accord hood is perfect from all viewing angles on my car. i guess AMERICAN car fanboys must resort to desperate tactics to make the poor selling malibu look good when compared to the accord. keep trying tho, i dont think gm has made a family sedan that outsells the accord or camry yet.
when purchasing a new car, what % do you devote to "the alignment of the hood"? is it 10%? 20%? 50%? it sounds like ~50% of the entire car's quality/performance is in the hood panel.
stop deflecting... you werent the one who originally started the argument, you jumped in not understanding the argument, showed that you are a fucking troll, and cant save your ass from getting whipped... so stfu now, or discuss the original quote...
what argument? who are you whipping??? i did NOT read the entire thread, nor do i need to. you're deflecting the thread from the OP about the equinox getting 18mpg. What happened? feeling sad that your american equinox doesn't look so good in its debut years? can't hang with the top players in the game? gm still can't sell? you sound awfully mad. what did i do? i'm just a forum user. i wonder what i can do to you in person. you may just kill yourself.
i think i just whipped you. i'm not the one here getting all pissed and cursing and shit.
cry me a river mikemikemike, or lets stick to the topic of the Equinox and its poor ratings