Originally posted by: ClueLis
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
What you PMed me isn't against the rules.
What was it?
Well, I'm no american but I thought defeating any kind of copy protection was against the DMCA. Illegal = no appropriate for forum.
Sorry for being cautious
Originally posted by: ClueLis
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
What you PMed me isn't against the rules.
What was it?
Attempting to read the disk from a DVD drive instead of a CD drive.
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: ClueLis
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
What you PMed me isn't against the rules.
What was it?
Attempting to read the disk from a DVD drive instead of a CD drive.
Actually, that's NOT what I said at all!
Geez.
Not only are you a dickhead to people trying to help you, you're also illiterate!
In The U.S. the DMCA has made defeating copy protection for any reason illegal believe it or not.
Saying personal backup or fair use often doesn't fly.
You can't talk about copying games and cracking them here under the guise of fair use and backup.
This is really no different.
Of course, I wouldn't care if this guy weren't such a dickhead.
Oooo name calling! Wow, that totally sums it up.
Just how is that not "use a different drive", ignoring the part about piping the output elsewhere and recording it?
Originally posted by: ndee
stop listening to that crappy music
Hey I like Santana. This group's the next Santana. Texican Rock/blues is awesome.
There's a lot of legal wrangling going on about it right now and tons of people are being sued/shutdown. Ever heard of the suits regarding deCSS which is nothing more than a tool to make backups of DVDs?
"The DMCA makes is a crime to "circumvent" copyright protection systems. Here is the language:"
link
to FFM: You're a dickhead to people who try to help you. You must be one grade-a asshole in real life.
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
Wrong.
You think you can, but you can't - legally.
A session selector from CD data recovery software comes to mind. CDRoller will allow you to isolate any particular session on a multisession CD.
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
Wrong.
You think you can, but you can't - legally.
Well until they can break down my door and look in my computer's rom drive to see if I've got the CD in or not, they can suck my balls. And why they're down there, they can kiss my ass for paying too much too.
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
Wrong.
You think you can, but you can't - legally.
Well until they can break down my door and look in my computer's rom drive to see if I've got the CD in or not, they can suck my balls. And why they're down there, they can kiss my ass for paying too much too.
It would serve you right for actually buying a CD - what were you thinking?!?!
You're confusing what you think you SHOULD BE ABLE to do and what you actually can legally do.
It's no different from macrovision on VHS to DVDs to software to copy protected CDs.
It's no different from macrovision on VHS to DVDs to software to copy protected CDs.
You got it.
Just today I bought a norah jones Super CD for $5 more than the regular CD even though I don't have a SACD player.
Why? The regular CD had copy protection while the SACD didn't and it will play in a regular CD player too.
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Yeah, but there's a fair use precedent, and we need to hurry up and get the DMCA into the Supreme Court. Of course, if it were illegal, why are distributors of Linux DVD players not being taken down (hint: because in the originator's homeland, they have similar laws, which got him off the hook, because he did something he shouldn't have had to do in the first place)?Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Wrong.Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
You think you can, but you can't - legally.
Personally, I've never had a problem w/ copy-protected CDs, but if I did, you can bet I'd return it as defective (which it would be, as I have only my CDROM drive right now to play them, my Walkman being broken) and see if it were avilable elsewhere as CD-DA.
It's a shame they were able to get this way. Good music sells. If they market it, we will come. Instead, they want to streamline and litigate it.
Originally posted by: Cerb
Yeah, but there's a fair use precedent, and we need to hurry up and get the DMCA into the Supreme Court. Of course, if it were illegal, why are distributors of Linux DVD players not being taken down (hint: because in the originator's homeland, they have similar laws, which got him off the hook, because he did something he shouldn't have had to do in the first place)?Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Wrong.Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Well the DMCA can suck my balls. I paid way-too-much for this CD and I'm going to listen to it however I want.
You think you can, but you can't - legally.
Personally, I've never had a problem w/ copy-protected CDs, but if I did, you can bet I'd return it as defective (which it would be, as I have only my CDROM drive right now to play them, my Walkman being broken) and see if it were avilable elsewhere as CD-DA.
It's a shame they were able to get this way. Good music sells. If they market it, we will come. Instead, they want to streamline and litigate it.
Ah, 'fair use,' a precendent set down with VCRs which is completely mutable and people assume it means far more than it actually does.
People who want to bypass the DMCA throw around the term 'fair use' a lot but don't really understand it and how weak it is.
Note that this precendent only applies to non-copy protected content such as recording television programs with said VCRs. It does not apply to macrovision protected VHS to VHS copies. This is what's know as a technical exception to substantive limit.
This applies to DVDs, DVD-A (the replacement for CDs) etc etc etc. It may also apply to copy protected broadcasts which are appearing with HDTV. You don't have any constitutional rights to copy these when they are copy protected. The broadcast is a license to view the program only while broadcast.
This is similar to a license which only allows a piece of software to be installed on one PC at any given time.
If you want a copy of said broadcast, you need to buy the DVD boxed set.
Nor, do you have a license to copy a DVD or copy protected CD. Your rights with said media end with being able to listen to the original disc.
lol - man, is this guy a nut or what? :beer: I should pull up a chair and burn some popcorn in my own thread.
I should pull up a chair and burn some popcorn in my own thread. TRENDING THREADS
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