WSJ confirms: Next iPhone to have bigger screen

[RagingBITCH]

Just 1 GB RAM. I was afraid of that although I'm more worried for the iPad Air 2.

http://card.weibo.com/article/h5/s#cid=1001593744942102033003&vid=&extparam=

If true, it's not the end of the world, but disappointing nonetheless.

There's another article debunking it. Then there's an article saying it'll have Sapphire, another that says it won't. At this point take anything you hear with a grain of salt, other than it'll launch in Sept, and will come in two different sizes.

 

[smackababy]

There's another article debunking it. Then there's an article saying it'll have Sapphire, another that says it won't. At this point take anything you hear with a grain of salt, other than it'll launch in Sept, and will come in two different sizes.

Plus, the amount of RAM is irrelevant if it performs well. The updated iOS could handle resources far more efficiently. I have never had a problem with RAM on any iDevice.

 

[Eug]

Plus, the amount of RAM is irrelevant if it performs well. The updated iOS could handle resources far more efficiently. I have never had a problem with RAM on any iDevice.

1. Safari on iOS with a lot of tabs open in the background frequently has to reload those tabs. It's really irritating. I suspect this a combination of an a Safari issue with limited RAM.

2. RAM is probably even more important than CPU speed for future upgradability. I specifically avoided the original iPad because of its A4 CPU and its 256 MB RAM.

However, I didn't avoid the iPhone 4, despite the fact it had the same A4 CPU. I bought the iPhone 4 because it had 512 MB RAM. Consequently, it got iOS updates far longer than the original iPad did.

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tl;dr

More RAM may help now, but even if your usage pattern now doesn't require more RAM, more RAM will help with future versions of iOS.

 

[Aikouka]

1. Safari on iOS with a lot of tabs open in the background frequently has to reload those tabs. It's really irritating. I suspect this a combination of an a Safari issue with limited RAM.

Do you do that a lot on the iPhone? I don't use all that many tabs on my phone, but I do use more on my iPad -- especially since they're a lot easier to get to. Also, sometimes the forced refresh is nice. It refreshes my webmail, which is like pressing the "check mail" button.

 

[Eug]

Do you do that a lot on the iPhone? I don't use all that many tabs on my phone, but I do use more on my iPad -- especially since they're a lot easier to get to. Also, sometimes the forced refresh is nice. It refreshes my webmail, which is like pressing the "check mail" button.

I don't do that a lot on the iPhone myself, at least not usually on purpose, but I don't plan on getting the iPhone 6 anyway, unless there is some other whiz-bang must-have feature that I don't know about yet. (I prefer smaller phones.) I do encounter the issue from time to time though on the iPhone.

However, I'm more concerned about the iPad Air 2, which I had planned on buying.

 

[amyklai]

1. Safari on iOS with a lot of tabs open in the background frequently has to reload those tabs. It's really irritating. I suspect this a combination of an a Safari issue with limited RAM.

2. RAM is probably even more important than CPU speed for future upgradability. I specifically avoided the original iPad because of its A4 CPU and its 256 MB RAM.

However, I didn't avoid the iPhone 4, despite the fact it had the same A4 CPU. I bought the iPhone 4 because it had 512 MB RAM. Consequently, it got updates far longer than the original iPad did.

Current (A7 proc) iPads and iPhones are effectively RAM-constrained compared to previous generations. They have the same 1GB RAM, but the 64bit apps need more RAM than previous 32bit apps. It's a pity, and I think it was a deliberate choice by Apple to force iPad buyers in a future upgrade cycle because they realized that the iPad Air is going to be absolutely good enough for quite a long time from a screen quality and resolution, processor speed and form factor standpoint.
It's basically reached a similar point like the Core2Duo PCs/laptops, which are good enough for a lot of tasks until today. So, lets hope that the next iPad has at least 2 GB RAM, so it'll finally be the uncrippled, futureproof thing that the iPad Air could've been already.

 

[amyklai]

Do you do that a lot on the iPhone? I don't use all that many tabs on my phone, but I do use more on my iPad -- especially since they're a lot easier to get to. Also, sometimes the forced refresh is nice. It refreshes my webmail, which is like pressing the "check mail" button.

The refresh absolutely s*cks, because it makes it impossible to open a few interesting articles in a browser on a wifi-only ipad, leave your house and later read the articles somewhere else. You can do that on a cheapo Nexus 7 and the iPad should absolutely be able to do the same.

Also, if you have a reading style where you look through the main page of a blog / website, open all the interesting articles on new tabs and then read the articles one after another, you get annoying pauses when going from one article to another (because of the reloading) which you don't get on other current devices. It's simply annoying and it absolutely shouldn't behave like that.

 

[Eug]

It also makes copying and pasting between webpages a total PITA.

If I am typing a post in one tab, and then switch tabs to copy some text, and then switch back, it sometimes will reload the tab with the post, erasing everything I typed previously.

 

[Sattern]

I'm glad they are trying to cater to those with big hands, because I sure as hell can't hold a regular iPhone without being able to grasp its elegance in one hand.

I'm not a fan of apple phones, but of their laptops so I probably will just stick to the Xperia Z2/Z3 when they finally get it officially released.

 

[ponyo]

It also makes copying and pasting between webpages a total PITA.

If I am typing a post in one tab, and then switch tabs to copy some text, and then switch back, it sometimes will reload the tab with the post, erasing everything I typed previously.

Yes, this is annoying and happens on my iPhone 5s with only few tabs open. It has to be the 1gb memory causing this because it doesn't happen on my Nexus 7 with 2gb ram.

 

[Eug]

Current (A7 proc) iPads and iPhones are effectively RAM-constrained compared to previous generations. They have the same 1GB RAM, but the 64bit apps need more RAM than previous 32bit apps. It's a pity, and I think it was a deliberate choice by Apple to force iPad buyers in a future upgrade cycle because they realized that the iPad Air is going to be absolutely good enough for quite a long time from a screen quality and resolution, processor speed and form factor standpoint.
It's basically reached a similar point like the Core2Duo PCs/laptops, which are good enough for a lot of tasks until today. So, lets hope that the next iPad has at least 2 GB RAM, so it'll finally be the uncrippled, futureproof thing that the iPad Air could've been already.

I wanted an iPad Air but held off for TouchID and 2 GB RAM.

I am currently using a MacBook Pro from 2009, a Core 2 Duo. I have no complaints about speed even after 5 years (after adding memory and an SSD). As I mentioned in the other thread, the main reasons I want to upgrade have nothing to do with the CPU. I want Retina and lower weight, and also USB 3 and 802.11ac would be nice.

 

[Rottie]

Shocking, I know

http://online.wsj.com/articles/apple-suppliers-gear-up-for-large-screen-iphones-1405985788



WSJ is Apple's "official" leak site, so this is probably as good as it gets for confirmation.

Is WSJ a best and reliable source?

 

[PliotronX]

Just 1 GB RAM. I was afraid of that although I'm more worried for the iPad Air 2.

http://card.weibo.com/article/h5/s#cid=1001593744942102033003&vid=&extparam=

If true, it's not the end of the world, but disappointing nonetheless.

Definitely not a huge problem, mainly Android needs 2GB to be comfortable because [bastardized loaded with crap phone company editions are] an inefficient mess (S5 owner).

(fixed for accuracy because my Nexus 4 feels smoother than the S5 because it is a pure Android OS)

 

[RagingBITCH]

I wanted an iPad Air but held off for TouchID and 2 GB RAM.

I am currently using a MacBook Pro from 2009, a Core 2 Duo. I have no complaints about speed even after 5 years (after adding memory and an SSD). As I mentioned in the other thread, the main reasons I want to upgrade have nothing to do with the CPU. I want Retina and lower weight, and also USB 3 and 802.11ac would be nice.

The same "source" that reported 1GB to begin with backtracked: http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/iphone-6-will-feature-1gb-ram-44826/

Can't believe everything you read on the internet

 

[gevorg]

Back to original design-like? Awesome! :thumbsup:

 

[ViRGE]

Is WSJ a best and reliable source?

Huh? Yes. They're batting 1.000 on Apple rumors so far. Presumably they have someone inside Apple that can give them confirmation.

 

[vi edit]

Yeah definitely prefer the rounded off edges over the chunky angular slabs that have been the Iphone4 and on up.

 

[Eug]

The same "source" that reported 1GB to begin with backtracked: http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/iphone-6-will-feature-1gb-ram-44826/

Can't believe everything you read on the internet

There's hope yet!

Yeah definitely prefer the rounded off edges over the chunky angular slabs that have been the Iphone4 and on up.

Hope it's quite flat on the bottom like the pix. I didn't like the full curved back of the 3G. It always felt like it was going to fall out of my hand.

 

[Kaido]

Is WSJ a best and reliable source?

I don't have a link, but one of the tech websites did an article about the Apple pre-release media engine. They basically use WSJ as their official "leaker" of information, both to introduce new products & to gauge pricing & product reactions from consumers before release. So it's basically their form of marketing to get people excited about it.

WSJ has a strong history of Apple leak accuracy.

 

[Phanuel]

There's hope yet!



Hope it's quite flat on the bottom like the pix. I didn't like the full curved back of the 3G. It always felt like it was going to fall out of my hand.

I liked my 3G.

I'm wondering though about the 2 screen sizes if true and the staggered release. My 5 is having some fun battery issues now so I'll probably upgrade whenever the 6 comes out but I'd like to at least see all of the options side by side first before making a purchase.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Plus, the amount of RAM is irrelevant if it performs well. The updated iOS could handle resources far more efficiently. I have never had a problem with RAM on any iDevice.

It doesn't perform well if you like to surf the internet with tabs.

The current-gen iPads have Safari crash constantly because of using too much RAM. 1GB + the switch the 64-bit is bad bad news. Have you never had Safari quit and reload? It happens to me all the time!

 

[Ns1]

with the onslaught of Samsung commercials against iPhone owners being slaves to outlets, will Apple EVER release a phone with a removable battery?

 

[Phanuel]

with the onslaught of Samsung commercials against iPhone owners being slaves to outlets, will Apple EVER release a phone with a removable battery?

That's not a real problem though. Your average phone user is not carrying around a spare battery. I don't know of anyone in my circle that does or would. You also need to keep that spare charged up. If people are concerned about their batteries they're typically using one of those cases with an extra battery in it instead.

 

[Ns1]

That's not a real problem though. Your average phone user is not carrying around a spare battery. I don't know of anyone in my circle that does or would. You also need to keep that spare charged up. If people are concerned about their batteries they're typically using one of those cases with an extra battery in it instead.

My fiance got a mophie and both the mophie AND the phone die by 6pm unless she constantly charges.

I'd love to just be able to walk around with a few spare batteries instead of $120 for the next size up Mophie (which totally messes with the balance + weight of the phone).

 

[bearxor]

I liked my 3G.

I still think the 3G/3GS design was the best. I didn't mind the curved back at all.

My fiance got a mophie and both the mophie AND the phone die by 6pm unless she constantly charges.

Your fiancé doesn't need extra battery packs, she needs an intervention.

Is she using them correctly, BTW? She should be letting the phone get to around 20% on its own charge and then turning the battery pack on until or charges to about 80%. Then repeat again when it hits 20% again. Turning it on when the phone is at 100% and leaving it on all day until the battery pack dies and then using the phones internal battery is the most wasteful way of using it.

http://www.mophie.com/frequent-questions

I ask because most people I know leave them on all day. If you do it this way, you can typically get two 80% charges out of the battery pack.