Vic
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Sorry, but that's simply bullsh!t. Using your same logic, I'd bet you never drive at all.
And it doesn't change the fact that there is no radar detector in the pictures, so Mill's logic for even bringing up the subject of radar detectors is even worse.
3rd at redline in a WRX is 96mph. 3rd at 20 mph is ~1500 rpm, where the engine at WOT would be in a deep bog even on flat terrain. But there's also no way impact was anything close to 80mph, as the damage is simply not that severe. If he hit the house at 80mph, he'd be dead. As it is, the plastic front bumper cover is barely damaged.
But there is no question the little dipsh!t is lying, that's why everyone on Nasioc is making fun of him (and rightly so).
I have had two tickets in the last 8 months and one of them i was just going with the flow in the fast lane when i got pulled over. There are also a few counties around here that will pull you over for 1 mph over.
Vic
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Almost everyone drives aggressively. That asshole breaking the law (both OR and WA law) by doing 5 under in the left lane and not yielding right to faster traffic is simply being passive aggressive as opposed to actively aggressive.
Having a radar detector is not illegal where I live, Skoorb (nor where you live either). It is in the Commonwealth of Virginia (where this accident took place), but I still don't see where the little punk had one.
No police officer has ever given me a ticket for having a radar detector, and in those rare times when I have been pulled over with a detector in my car, I have never tried to hide the fact that I have one. And yet I have (in the past) gotten warnings as often as tickets.
Anyway, I don't have that optional rear view mirror with built-in compass, so my radar detector's primary function in my car is to serve as my digital compass (because it has one built in). Did I forget to mention that? But just because it also serves as a radar detector and I paid $30 shipped for it from buy.com means I always speed like a maniac, right? :roll:
As for the "mildly" speeding part, just wait until you get a ticket for 62 in a 55. That really happened to me in '99 outside podunk Morton, WA (my last ticket). You'll change your tune in a hurry about how no one gets ticketed for going with the flow.
Originally posted by: Vic
Almost everyone drives aggressively. That asshole breaking the law (both OR and WA law) by doing 5 under in the left lane is simply being passive aggressive as opposed to actively aggressive.
Having a radar detector is not illegal where I live, Skoorb (nor where you live either). It is in the Commonwealth of Virginia (where this accident took place), but I still don't see where the little punk had one.
No police officer has ever given me a ticket for having a radar detector, and in those rare times when I have been pulled over with a detector in my car, I have never tried to hide the fact that I have one. And yet I have (in the past) gotten warnings as often as tickets.
Anyway, I don't have that optional rear view mirror with built-in compass, so my radar detector's primary function in my car is to serve as my digital compass (because it has one built in). Did I forget to mention that? But just because it also serves as a radar detector and I paid $30 shipped for it from buy.com means I always speed like a maniac, right? :roll:
As for the "mildly" speed part, just wait until you do get a ticket for 62 in a 55. That really happened to me in '99 outside podunk Morton, WA (my last ticket). You'll change your tune about how no one gets pulled over for going with the flow.
I don't endorse being passive aggresive or actively aggressive in traffic. I don't claim that I've never sped. I simply stated that unless you're intending to violate WA or OR law (by driving faster than the posted speed limit) then you have no reason to own one.
If you feel justified in speeding because everyone else does or because some other asshole decides to go slow in the passing lane, that's fine. Just be honest with your self that your intent was to break the law. It's less condemnable that driving like a maniac in a residential neighborhood.
Vic
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heh. Touche!Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I don't endorse being passive aggresive or actively aggressive in traffic. I don't claim that I've never sped. I simply stated that unless you're intending to violate WA or OR law (by driving faster than the posted speed limit) then you have no reason to own one.
If you feel justified in speeding because everyone else does or because some other asshole decides to go slow in the passing lane, that's fine. Just be honest with your self that your intent was to break the law. It's less condemnable that driving like a maniac in a residential neighborhood.
I just took offense to the implied idea that every person with a radar detector is going to speed like a maniac through a residential area, especially when this dipsh!t who did didn't even have a detector!
A car is like a Gun. It should be registered, checked for safety, locked when not in use, and only used by a person that is trained and mature enough to safely use it.
So if you fit that, then get one. If not get a Civic or some boring Toyota.
They should have different license classes, kinda like Gran Turismo. Your basic one will let you drive %90 of the cars on the market. The faster or bigger the car the better drive you have to qualify as. Some punk kid with damn near 0 driving experience and a basic license should not be driving a 300 hp car.
Don Vito Corleone
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My personal feeling is that this kid should:
a) Lose his license for a minimum of 90 days, and a year would be better.
b) Get a conviction for reckless driving, to document this incident.
c) Have his insurance cancelled, to force him to seek insurance from one of the very costly high-risk carriers.
d) His parents should use whatever leverage they have (he is apparently 18, but they cosigned on the loan) to get him out of this car. If he must have a car at all, it should be something completely tame, like a Civic HX.
I am a very laid-back guy, but if I were home when this little moron drove _THROUGH_ my house, I'd be hard-pressed to restrain myself from kicking his ass.
A WRX is not a Porsche GT1. It must have taken several seconds to reach 80+ MPH, even if you believe the throttle stuck (which I am VERY skeptical of). If he can't figure out to push in the clutch, slam on the brakes, and/or turn the car off to stop it in that period of time, he is a danger to himself and others if he's allowed to drive a reasonably fast car like this.
a) Lose his license for a minimum of 90 days, and a year would be better.
b) Get a conviction for reckless driving, to document this incident.
c) Have his insurance cancelled, to force him to seek insurance from one of the very costly high-risk carriers.
d) His parents should use whatever leverage they have (he is apparently 18, but they cosigned on the loan) to get him out of this car. If he must have a car at all, it should be something completely tame, like a Civic HX.
I am a very laid-back guy, but if I were home when this little moron drove _THROUGH_ my house, I'd be hard-pressed to restrain myself from kicking his ass.
A WRX is not a Porsche GT1. It must have taken several seconds to reach 80+ MPH, even if you believe the throttle stuck (which I am VERY skeptical of). If he can't figure out to push in the clutch, slam on the brakes, and/or turn the car off to stop it in that period of time, he is a danger to himself and others if he's allowed to drive a reasonably fast car like this.
Skoorb you're a fvcking tard. Theres a recall on the throttle clip for the WRX, he didn't go in, MAYBE that might be an explaination.
n7
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Ryan, read the whole thread on that forum.
He didn't tell the whole story at first, & he still hasn't told all of it.
The kid was obviously going way over the speed limit, & was likely trying to do a slide around the corner when he lost control of car.
I intially gave him the benefit of a doubt, but when i read through the whole thread, it's pretty obvious he was full of shit, especially when you see the overhead pictures of the area.
He didn't tell the whole story at first, & he still hasn't told all of it.
The kid was obviously going way over the speed limit, & was likely trying to do a slide around the corner when he lost control of car.
I intially gave him the benefit of a doubt, but when i read through the whole thread, it's pretty obvious he was full of shit, especially when you see the overhead pictures of the area.
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I believe the recall throttle problem would only have caused a problem with the cruise control on, and I don't believe he was cruising along in a residential neighborhood with cruise control. Moreover, that recall problem would only have caused the throttle to stay open at the position it was already open to, not wide-open.
As I said above, even if you give him the full benefit of the doubt, and assign ALL the blame for the open throttle to the car, he had plenty of time to stop it, and was unable to do so.
There's a reason morons like this get into 3 accidents in a year. He is a danger to himself and others, and should be handled accordingly IMO.
In it's waning days, my turbovan could eat that car alive speed wise and had a MUCH shittier performance envelope (Front wheel drive and IT'S A GDMF MINIVAN) - and not once in my entire stupid-crap career (All on closed tracks mind you) did I so much as come close to a barrier - even at WOT with 30PSI.
Kid can't drive. Even if his throttle was stuck, the OBVIOUS solution, even if you completely forget everything else you've ever learned is to grab the handbrake and yank the steering wheel to the side. Sure you might flip over a few times and land in someone's front yard - but you're not going to go into a goddamned house. At best you'll pull off one of those badass dogleg stops they always use in movies. I wish the neighbor had a pool that he landed in, or the guy whose house he hit had a knife collection or somthing on the wall he plowed through.
This little cock gives those of us who REALLY drive fast a bad name just because he thinks he can duplicate some manuever he saw on TV in his neighborhood.
Kid can't drive. Even if his throttle was stuck, the OBVIOUS solution, even if you completely forget everything else you've ever learned is to grab the handbrake and yank the steering wheel to the side. Sure you might flip over a few times and land in someone's front yard - but you're not going to go into a goddamned house. At best you'll pull off one of those badass dogleg stops they always use in movies. I wish the neighbor had a pool that he landed in, or the guy whose house he hit had a knife collection or somthing on the wall he plowed through.
This little cock gives those of us who REALLY drive fast a bad name just because he thinks he can duplicate some manuever he saw on TV in his neighborhood.
And if there's a recall on your car for a critical system like that and you don't AT LEAST make an appointment to get it fixed (Or otherwise replace that component yourself) you don't deserve to drive. Period.
Vic
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that Portland's and Beaverton's photo radar vans will issue tickets at 1 mph over. Very lame IMO. Thankfully, they are not stealthy, like a cop, and will cause even the cheapest radar detector to light up like a Christmas tree.
So if you think that one has to do 10-15 mph over to get a ticket, you could not be more wrong.
Back on topic: how the hell was the front bumper not destroyed?
halik
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wow,
you're not much better than the kid. Grabbing the handbrake in that turn will spin him out, he'd hit the curb more or less parallel and the car would be tubing sideways towars the house at the excess of 40mph. Good job :roll:
clutch and brake was the way to go. The car has abs so you can still control what you're doing... plus even at WOT the brakes will overpower the engine to the point of stalling.
the story is bulsh!t anyway, shifting to 3rd at 20mph (residential speed) would put him at 1500rpms and it would take him over 10 secs to even hit boost.
StageLeft
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I didn't mean it's illegal to have a detector; I meant that if you do have one, you're breaking the law. Like I said, nobody gets one to go 65 in a 70. Ask a cop if they are less likely to give somebody a warning for speeding if they have a detector. They answer will be yes, and for good reason.
Ryan, grow up, then come back to the forums when your language is better, little man
Ryan, grow up, then come back to the forums when your language is better, little man
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