Writers' Strike OVER!!!

[KeithTalent]

We are all too busy to care right now: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2152147&enterthread=y

KT

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: MrLee
I could care less.

So why don't you?

Why don't I care less? My only interest in this was that the story of it ending came from Michael Eisner. I just want to know, why him?

Please see this picture:

http://i41.photobucket.com/alb...euce2005/caringgn2.png

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
FINALLY! New Shark and Two and a Half Men episodes STAT!

I liked Season 1 of Shark but I just never got into Season 2 .

It was sad when the Mexican died .

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Serves em right the stupid fucks ... thats what happens when you get greedy.

Most writers in Hollywood struggle to live a middle class life, the actors, directors, producers, studios are the greedy ones.

Have you seen John Travolta's house?

He can't act his way out of a paper bag and yet he's a multi-millionaire.

 

[torpid]

There was no official deal struck last Friday. That was when a tentative deal was struck, but it still needed some additional details hashed out. This seems like a PR stunt to me. Until the WGA announces that a deal is struck and the strike order is retracted, the strike is still on. I don't know that Eisner even has any control over either side here.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Serves em right the stupid fucks ... thats what happens when you get greedy.

Most writers in Hollywood struggle to live a middle class life, the actors, directors, producers, studios are the greedy ones.

Have you seen John Travolta's house?

He can't act his way out of a paper bag and yet he's a multi-millionaire.

I don't agree with this. Given the premise that there is actually a paper bag in existence large enough to fit a man inside...If one were to be stuck inside such a bag, why would one choose "acting" as their planned method of escape. One would be more likely to "punch" and/or "rip" his or her way out of said bag.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
We are all too busy to care right now: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2152147&enterthread=y

KT

damn straight

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Originally posted by: Captante

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Serves em right the stupid fucks ... thats what happens when you get greedy.

Most writers in Hollywood struggle to live a middle class life, the actors, directors, producers, studios are the greedy ones.

Have you seen John Travolta's house?

He can't act his way out of a paper bag and yet he's a multi-millionaire.

I don't agree with this. Given the premise that there is actually a paper bag in existence large enough to fit a man inside...If one were to be stuck inside such a bag, why would one choose "acting" as their planned method of escape. One would be more likely to "punch" and/or "rip" his or her way out of said bag.

Because he's a Scientologist and really really dumb and also gay so he wouldn't want to hurt the bag.

 

[ballmode]

CMON SCRUBS MAKE IT BACK!!!!

 

[ballmode]

JACK BAUER!!!! MY MAN CRUSH!!!!

 

[Ns1]

Was talking to my friend who works in production for a prime time show; management told him to expect to come into work on Monday

 

[Gooberlx2]

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Wait...so does that mean they went on strike because they felt they were underpaid, yet in the end they're coming back to lower paying jobs due to all the lost revenue and the resulting cuttbacks?

Irony much?

 

[eflat]

damn I was really enjoying watching the late night comedians coming up with their own material.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
damn I was really enjoying watching the late night comedians coming up with their own material.

The Conan, Stewart and Colbert thing was fairly interesting and something I hadn't seen before.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Captante
I will however concede one point ... you are correct in that the studios are the more greedy but somhow I can't work up a whole lot of sympathy for either side in this situation & I think both ultimately screwed themselves.

Everybody's greedy. That's why we educate ourselves to get jobs that pay as much as possible. Additionally, if we don't feel our current job is giving us enough money we can either negotiate for more money (as was the case here) or we can seek other employment.

Unless of course you're a monk or priest or someone who doesn't care about money.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
This is why unions suck. A good portion of the writers didn't even want to go on strike, but they had to because of the union.

Sadly, people have NO concept of what unions do, yet they bash them at every opportunity.
The dreaded union didn't tell these people they had to strike...the members voted to go on strike. It's a democratic kind of thing...BUT, if the majority of members so vote, then the other members DO have to honor that strike vote.
From personal experience, NO ONE really wants to strike. You never make up for the lost income, but sometimes, a strike is the only way to gain what you're after.
I know most of you here would rather go hat-in-hand to your bosses and suck them off for a pitance of a raise than join a union, but unions made America strong, gave American workers a voice in the workplace, and gave us many of the workplace protections and benefits we all take for granted today. Are unions "irrelevant' today? HELL NO! As soon as the last union disappeared, you'd see a near immediate reversal to the "robber baron" days...with no one to protect you, what would you do if your employer (and everyone else in your industry) started cutting wages and salaries by 50%? Quit? Then what? Find a different job that has cut its wages and salaries too?
Companies don't pay high wages and salaries with benefits out of compassion for their employees...they do it because they HAVE TO.

 

[MikeyLSU]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: SunnyD
This is why unions suck. A good portion of the writers didn't even want to go on strike, but they had to because of the union.

Sadly, people have NO concept of what unions do, yet they bash them at every opportunity.
The dreaded union didn't tell these people they had to strike...the members voted to go on strike. It's a democratic kind of thing...BUT, if the majority of members so vote, then the other members DO have to honor that strike vote.
From personal experience, NO ONE really wants to strike. You never make up for the lost income, but sometimes, a strike is the only way to gain what you're after.
I know most of you here would rather go hat-in-hand to your bosses and suck them off for a pitance of a raise than join a union, but unions made America strong, gave American workers a voice in the workplace, and gave us many of the workplace protections and benefits we all take for granted today. Are unions "irrelevant' today? HELL NO! As soon as the last union disappeared, you'd see a near immediate reversal to the "robber baron" days...with no one to protect you, what would you do if your employer (and everyone else in your industry) started cutting wages and salaries by 50%? Quit? Then what? Find a different job that has cut its wages and salaries too?
Companies don't pay high wages and salaries with benefits out of compassion for their employees...they do it because they HAVE TO.

Unions had their day when they were useful... now, they are not needed.

They are hurting more than they are helping. So many companies do just fine with their employees without a union. I have no union, my pay doesn't just drop.

 

[Queasy]

Alright! Let's go make Bionic Woman!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy

Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'm not a big TV junkie, and many of the shows that ATOT salivates over I think are horribly stupid, but I'm glad to see the strike over so we can get rid of some of the horribly stupid shows that have replaced the horribly stupid shows...

Shows like?

These two come immediately to mind:
The Office
Heroes

:thumbsup:

 

[IceBergSLiM]

there was zero impact on my life so....but I guess good for them?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Wait...so does that mean they went on strike because they felt they were underpaid, yet in the end they're coming back to lower paying jobs due to all the lost revenue and the resulting cuttbacks?

Irony much?

not really. imagine if your future work was going to transition to a new form, and this new form paid you squat. taking a hit today for a fairer deal tomorrow is what they were forced into. no one wants to strike. the studios with their greed forced the situation.

anyways, if you think they are overpaid...
http://www.theblankpage.us/arc...the_economics_o_1.html
"First, when they say "the average writer", they are actually referring to the average employed writer. However, in 2003, the WGA had roughly 7500 members, of whom 4,298 had some were employed at some point in the year. That means that only about 57% of WGA members had any income from film, TV, or other WGA-covered sources during the year.

So, if you have a 57% chance of being employed in a given year... and you can expect to earn $93,482 if employed... you have an expected income for that year of $53,284.74. Your agent gets 10% of that, and your lawyer gets 5%, so that's $45,292.03 left over for you. At least, until you have to pay taxes..."

 

[OutHouse]

to be honest i didnt even notice the strike.

 

[JS80]

It's not over. They still have to vote on it.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

As a result of studio cutbacks, however, many of the writers who went on strike are unlikely to return to the same big-money contracts they'd had as individuals with the studios, Eisner said.

Wait...so does that mean they went on strike because they felt they were underpaid, yet in the end they're coming back to lower paying jobs due to all the lost revenue and the resulting cuttbacks?

Irony much?

not really. imagine if your future work was going to transition to a new form, and this new form paid you squat. taking a hit today for a fairer deal tomorrow is what they were forced into. no one wants to strike. the studios with their greed forced the situation.

anyways, if you think they are overpaid...
http://www.theblankpage.us/arc...the_economics_o_1.html
"First, when they say "the average writer", they are actually referring to the average employed writer. However, in 2003, the WGA had roughly 7500 members, of whom 4,298 had some were employed at some point in the year. That means that only about 57% of WGA members had any income from film, TV, or other WGA-covered sources during the year.

So, if you have a 57% chance of being employed in a given year... and you can expect to earn $93,482 if employed... you have an expected income for that year of $53,284.74. Your agent gets 10% of that, and your lawyer gets 5%, so that's $45,292.03 left over for you. At least, until you have to pay taxes..."

I never thought the writers were overpaid. I was just surprised, and thought it was ironic, that the studios claim to have suffered enough from the strike that it would detrimentally affect (for the near future) the new salaries/contracts despite any negotiated percentage increases.

 

[imported_Imp]

Haven't seen this on CNN yet, and we all know that they would whore this story out ontop of any other tragedy if it were true.