Writer wins copyright infringement lawsuit against WB about Matrix scripts

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MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Hahahaha awesome, this is even more funny to matrix zealots who refuse to believe those abortions of film were just hacked together ideas from other people.

How does this story undermine the story presented in the films? Just because it was stolen from someone else doesn't mean it wasn't a decent trilogy.

Regardless of what you thought about the movies beforehand, this lawsuit shouldn't change your opinion of their plot.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Hahahaha awesome, this is even more funny to matrix zealots who refuse to believe those abortions of film were just hacked together ideas from other people.

How does this story undermine the story presented in the films? Just because it was stolen from someone else doesn't mean it wasn't a decent trilogy.

Regardless of what you thought about the movies beforehand, this lawsuit shouldn't change your opinion of their plot.

It was the fact that they proclaimed how original they were, yet everything they did was just stolen from better movies...

But now that one of them is a woman now, I don't even feel the need to bother justifying my opinions, that speaks louder than I could.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Hahahaha awesome, this is even more funny to matrix zealots who refuse to believe those abortions of film were just hacked together ideas from other people.

How does this story undermine the story presented in the films? Just because it was stolen from someone else doesn't mean it wasn't a decent trilogy.

Regardless of what you thought about the movies beforehand, this lawsuit shouldn't change your opinion of their plot.

I liked the movies. But the ideas within were not innovative or revolutionary or anything that some stupid fanboys say. Almost every single idea within those films were published in one scifi book/comic before the movie. Cyberpunk has been around since the late 70's.
 

Babbles

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Yeah it sure does change how I feel about it!

First off, I don't think it was a decent trilogy. The last one sucked very much so and the second wasn't that great either.
Second, when we all first saw the Matrix I think everybody thought it was original and innovated. To realize now that it is not original makes the movie less meaningful. To know that the premise of the movie was a stolen idea deminishes my opinion of the movie.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
How does her work relate to the Terminator?
My guess is it has something to do with Skynet and the machines at war with man and taking over control. That is the same basic theme that the Matrix is founded upon. I'd like to read her manuscript and compare the similarities. I wonder if it ever got published? If not, it probably will now.

 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Wow, so the Whats-the-name Brothers just totally stole the movie, eh? So whom do I blame for all the crappy Matrices[/b?

Also, anybody want to register and paste the second page here for all of us??


Fixed. *puts on flamesuit*
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Babbles
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Second, when we all first saw the Matrix I think everybody thought it was original and innovated. To realize now that it is not original makes the movie less meaningful. To know that the premise of the movie was a stolen idea deminishes my opinion of the movie.
The presentation itself was very original, and I enjoyed it for that.

But if you'd read much real science fiction (i.e. books, and not Star Trek/Wars books) the actual ideas would not have seemed so startling.

Aside from anime and cyberpunk, many SF stories have been written since the 1950's about virtual worlds and people living in them. The shocking twist of a person not knowing they were in a virtual world was used many times. The machines taking over had also been done many times in the decades before the Matrix and Terminator movies.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: Babbles
Wow, so the Whats-the-name Brothers just totally stole the movie, eh? So whom do I blame for all the crappy Matrices?

Also, anybody want to register and paste the second page here for all of us??

Fixed. *puts on flamesuit*

Hahahaha, I do agree I thought all of the "Matrices" kind of sucked, but I was going to give the first one the benefit of the doubt!
 

jjones

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Found this little bit about the parts that were edited out from the original release of the film that were apparently blatant ripoffs:

In the beginning of the movie, there's an intro that scrolls up the screen just like in the movie Star Wars that layz out the plot. It speaks of a nuclear war that happened in the year 2110AD, where humanz were now used as fuel for the machines like batteries

In the part where Neo barters for a stack of programz for programz of his. No money was exchanged like in the edited release(s)

The girl in the beginning who came over Neo's had a rabbit on her arm. In the edited version(s), she's seen with the rabbit on her back shoulderblade
I saw the original release and seem to recall the discrepancies about the scrolling intro and the exchange for programs, not money. It could be that I'm just not remembering correctly but I don't think so.
 
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There must have been some pretty damning similarities. These types of cases usually go on for years and tend to be hard to prove.
 

Netopia

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There seems to be a retraction of sorts:

CORRECTION REGARDING PREVIOUS STORY

In reference to the recent article entitled "Mother of the Matrix Victorious," some information has been deemed misleading. Ms. Sophia Stewart has not yet won her case against Joel Silver, Time Warner and the Wachowski Bros. The decision on October 4th enabled Ms. Stewart to proceed with her case, as all attempts to have it dismissed were unsuccessful. Ms. Stewart's case will proceed through the Central District Court of California.

Thanks,
The Globe Staff