WP7 potentially the fastest/smoothest OS?

[MrX8503]

Even if one of those wishes were an iPhone 4? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=related

lol, I think just about everyone has seen that video.

 

[coolVariable]

If WinMo 6.5 could grant me three wishes, I still wouldn't buy it because of its clunky, ugly, slow, and frustrating UI.

True on the GUI ... but at least it worked! And it worked well!
3 years later and iOS, Android, etc still can't even do 50% of what WM was capable of.

 

[MrX8503]

True on the GUI ... but at least it worked! And it worked well!
3 years later and iOS, Android, etc still can't even do 50% of what WM was capable of.

Uh it didn't work well.

Cutting my hair with a kitchen knife works too, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna do it verses going to a hair salon.

 

[coolVariable]

Uh it didn't work well.

Cutting my hair with a kitchen knife works too, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna do it verses going to a hair salon.

I can tell you have never used it. Thank you for trolling though.

 

[MrX8503]

I can tell you have never used it. Thank you for trolling though.

I've owned a WinMo phone for 2 years, thanks. If WinMo was the mobile OS to own, it wouldn't be on life support.

 

[coolVariable]

I've owned a WinMo phone for 2 years, thanks. If WinMo was the mobile OS to own, it wouldn't be on life support.

And yet you are trolling as if you haven't ever used it.
It was BUTT UGLY but everything worked and worked well.
Name 1 feature that did not work.

It's on life support because it was hard to use, people like candy colors and sparkles and (apparently) idiots love it when a company promises 10,000 features and delivers on 5.

 

[zerocool84]

And yet you are trolling as if you haven't ever used it.
It was BUTT UGLY but everything worked and worked well.
Name 1 feature that did not work.

It's on life support because it was hard to use, people like candy colors and sparkles and (apparently) idiots love it when a company promises 10,000 features and delivers on 5.

Umm the only thing that needed to work, the base OS, constantly crashed, had bugs, and was horrible to navigate.

 

[MrX8503]

And yet you are trolling as if you haven't ever used it.
It was BUTT UGLY but everything worked and worked well.
Name 1 feature that did not work.

It's on life support because it was hard to use, people like candy colors and sparkles and (apparently) idiots love it when a company promises 10,000 features and delivers on 5.

Uh...what? lol.

So it worked well, but it was hard to use? Ok..

Anyway, WinMo was capable of a lot of things, but it was severely unstable, sluggish, and not user friendly. I'm just talking about core functions here and nothing about how it looks. When we get to the aesthetics, its just butt ugly. So what do you got?

An OS that can do a lot, but is butt ugly and hard to use. Which is why I said I wouldn't buy a WinMo phone if it could grant me 3 wishes.

 

[coolVariable]

Umm the only thing that needed to work, the base OS, constantly crashed, had bugs, and was horrible to navigate.

Hey look! It's the fvcking TROLL!

 

[hanoverphist]

im still on 6.1winmo, and while it is hard to work with sometimes, overall it is pretty good. 6.5 is better, but i cant seem to find a ROM that has all the original progs i wanted left in from samsungs "today 2" interface overlay. the cool thing about winmo was the customizability. you could change pretty much everything in it, make it look however you want. hell, i have interfaces that change it to work/ look like iOS as well as android. i dont see a lot of crashes tho, its been pretty stable unless i was messing with it. wish there wass more support for it tho, seems like everyone abandoned it.

 

[MrX8503]

Anand just reviewed WP7

"A more accurate codename for the UI would have to be Liquid - there’s just no other way to describe the interface other than fluid.

The entire OS only supports a single GPU at this point: Qualcomm’s Adreno 200. Eventually we’ll see support for the 205 and other GPUs, but today, that’s all Microsoft supports. It’s an important limitation because it ensures that all Windows Phone 7 devices, regardless of vendor, have a fully GPU accelerated UI. While Qualcomm’s Adreno 200 GPU isn’t exactly fast, it’s fast enough to run all of the OS UI animations at a constant 60 fps."

As I suspected, it is a very smooth OS. GPU acceleration is where its at and it seems like WP7 is able to take advantage of it even with one of the weakest GPUs. This is what Gingerbread needs in order to have a smooth UI.

 

[zerocool84]

Anand just reviewed WP7

"A more accurate codename for the UI would have to be Liquid - there’s just no other way to describe the interface other than fluid.

The entire OS only supports a single GPU at this point: Qualcomm’s Adreno 200. Eventually we’ll see support for the 205 and other GPUs, but today, that’s all Microsoft supports. It’s an important limitation because it ensures that all Windows Phone 7 devices, regardless of vendor, have a fully GPU accelerated UI. While Qualcomm’s Adreno 200 GPU isn’t exactly fast, it’s fast enough to run all of the OS UI animations at a constant 60 fps."

As I suspected, it is a very smooth OS. GPU acceleration is where its at and it seems like WP7 is able to take advantage of it even with one of the weakest GPUs. This is what Gingerbread needs in order to have a smooth UI.

I'm gonna read the whole review when I get home as it looks like a very long review but the smoothness is great. Only thing that still gets me is lack of multi-tasking and copy-paste in this day and age.

In our original preview, we said that Windows Phone 7 didn't quite feel like a complete smartphone OS yet. We'd like to come back and report that it finally has the fit and finish of a fully realized product, but that isn't exactly the case. Don't get us wrong: there's a lot to like or even love in WP7. Microsoft has done an outstanding job with lots of aspects of this UI, particularly when it comes to navigation and ease of use -- but there are holes here as well. It still feels like the company is a good year behind market leaders right now, and though it's clear the folks in Redmond are doing everything they can to get this platform up to snuff, it's also clear that they're not there yet.

But that isn't -- and shouldn't be -- a deterrent to taking a close look at the handsets being offered. Microsoft isn't walking away from Windows Phone 7 anytime soon, and the company has created an incredibly promising base set of features to build off of. With terrific Zune and Xbox Live integration, a fast and smart method of getting around the OS, great Office and email experiences, and a genuinely beautiful and useful user interface, Microsoft has definitely laid the foundation for the next several years of its mobile play. Now it's time to get the upper floors finished.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/windows-phone-7-review/

One thing I read that would annoy me is the notification system.

Incoming messages show up and have the contact’s name or number (depending on whether you have a contact card for them), and a snippet of the message. You can tap on that and dive into the messaging application, or swipe the message off to the side and ignore it.

It’s sort of a hybrid combination of WebOS’ notification system. The only small concern I have is that after a toast fades away, there’s no way to see it again. If you’re browsing and want to finish reading a paragraph before responding, you’ll probably miss the message toast. Then you’re forced to hop out of IE, hop into messaging, and get back. You end up missing out on the otherwise excellent IE -> messaging -> back to IE workflow enabled by the back button. It’s a tremendously minor gripe, but it’s important to differentiate that WebOS keeps those notifications at the bottom until they’re dismissed, WP7 dismisses them for you after a few seconds.

But then there's awesome stuff like remote lock, remote ring, and the cloud.

 

[WelshBloke]

Umm the only thing that needed to work, the base OS, constantly crashed, had bugs, and was horrible to navigate.

Uh...what? lol.

So it worked well, but it was hard to use? Ok..

Anyway, WinMo was capable of a lot of things, but it was severely unstable, sluggish, and not user friendly. I'm just talking about core functions here and nothing about how it looks. When we get to the aesthetics, its just butt ugly. So what do you got?

An OS that can do a lot, but is butt ugly and hard to use. Which is why I said I wouldn't buy a WinMo phone if it could grant me 3 wishes.

I've been running WinMo for ages (since 5.x) and honestly, 6.x has been really stable for me. I cant remember the last time my 6.5 device crashed, the only time it gets soft reset is when I forget to charge it and the battery dies. I guess its been on for a couple of weeks now.

Winmo stock is pretty ugly (even 6.5) but as I use an HTC phone its as easy to use day to day as an android one (sense UI FTW)

Winmo also has an amazing collection of software available for it. One of the things holding me back from Android is the lack of a decent SatNav program, I need TomTom.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Can we please stop confusing UI with OS?

 

[MrX8503]

I've been running WinMo for ages (since 5.x) and honestly, 6.x has been really stable for me. I cant remember the last time my 6.5 device crashed, the only time it gets soft reset is when I forget to charge it and the battery dies. I guess its been on for a couple of weeks now.

Winmo stock is pretty ugly (even 6.5) but as I use an HTC phone its as easy to use day to day as an android one (sense UI FTW)

Winmo also has an amazing collection of software available for it. One of the things holding me back from Android is the lack of a decent SatNav program, I need TomTom.

You don't like the free navigation that Google offers?

 

[WelshBloke]

You don't like the free navigation that Google offers?

Not for car navigation no.

Even when it works well it still sucks balls compared to a 'proper' SatNav program (TomTom or Route66 etc), other times its too laggy when you get into the sticks or bankrupts you if you cross international borders.

 

[zerocool84]

Not for car navigation no.

Even when it works well it still sucks balls compared to a 'proper' SatNav program (TomTom or Route66 etc), other times its too laggy when you get into the sticks or bankrupts you if you cross international borders.

For 99% of users, the stock phone navigation is going to be more than anough for their needs but obviously it can't satisfy everyone which is why they still sell seperate Nav options.

 

[WelshBloke]

For 99% of users, the stock phone navigation is going to be more than anough for their needs but obviously it can't satisfy everyone which is why they still sell seperate Nav options.

Whats the best Android option at the mo? Anything comparable to TomTom?

Im going to have to switch at some point that would make it easier.

 

[zerocool84]

Whats the best Android option at the mo? Anything comparable to TomTom?

Im going to have to switch at some point that would make it easier.

Lucky for you this article was posted today and I assume you're in Europe since you call yourself WelshBloke and this is Euro only:

Look out, Google Maps Navigation -- here comes a little friendly competition from across the pond. While we'd heard the term HTC Locations bandied about a bit during the company's London launch of the Desire HD, now it looks as if both HTC and TomTom are ready to make their newfound friendship official. TomTom will be partnering with HTC in order to provide maps for phones loaded with HTC Locations, which is hailed as a new mapping system that results in a "zero-wait navigation experience." Initially, at least, it'll only be available on the new HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z smartphones in Europe and Asia, but the outfit promises to extend that to a wide variety of future phones and geographies. It should be noted, however, that while map and location content come preloaded on HTC Locations, turn-by-turn by guidance has to be purchased separately.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/tomtom-maps-get-loaded-onto-htc-locations-promise-zero-wait-na/

 

[MrX8503]

I don't understand. A good nav is keeping you from moving from WinMo to Android, but does WinMo even have navigation?

 

[DivideBYZero]

I don't understand. A good nav is keeping you from moving from WinMo to Android, but does WinMo even have navigation?

It's had Tom Tom for YEARS.

 

[WelshBloke]

I've owned a WinMo phone for 2 years, thanks. If WinMo was the mobile OS to own, it wouldn't be on life support.

I don't understand. A good nav is keeping you from moving from WinMo to Android, but does WinMo even have navigation?

You obviously didn't look into what WinMo was capable of then. (or you're trolling).

 

[WelshBloke]

Lucky for you this article was posted today and I assume you're in Europe since you call yourself WelshBloke and this is Euro only:



http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/tomtom-maps-get-loaded-onto-htc-locations-promise-zero-wait-na/

Cheers for that, it looks very hopeful. I'll keep my eyes open for a user review of the turn by turn nav.

 

[MrX8503]

Easy on the handing out the Troll label like candy on halloween.

I owned a WinMo device for two years but I didn't know it had TomTom. How much did it cost and how would one get it?

EDIT:

Nevermind, I found it here.

http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/products/mobile-navigation/

Its quite expensive. My main issue with WinMo is that I've had it for two years, yet I didn't know about it. Obviously an appstore was sorely needed.

 

[WelshBloke]

Easy on the handing out the Troll label like candy on halloween.

I owned a WinMo device for two years but I didn't know it had TomTom. How much did it cost and how would one get it?

EDIT:

Nevermind, I found it here.

http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/products/mobile-navigation/

Its quite expensive. My main issue with WinMo is that I've had it for two years, yet I didn't know about it. Obviously an appstore was sorely needed.

What about Route66? Or Garmin, or Co-pilot, or google maps, or bing maps, or .... I could go on but you get the message.

You cant really comment on the functionality of WinMo as you obviously haven't spent any time researching it.