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Wow

irishScott

irishScott

Lifer
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So this is what things were supposed to be like in 1955 (according to some obviously). Kinda scary cause this is basically a list of my dad's expectations on what to see in a household (he has made this perfectly clear over the course of my life) and he was born in 1956 :Q . When my mom does not oblige, he gets pissed.

For the record, I consider my dad to be a chauvinistic bastard (The "bastard" part is a whole other thread)
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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Agreed. "You have no right to question him" and "His topics of conversation are more important than yours" are the only two questionable ones.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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I agree mostly, apart from a couple of things this sort of thing should be expected.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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I don't think so. But then, I'm not a very good feminist. 😉
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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Stay at Home Mom != Sit around the house to take care of Kids Mom

My mom, on a weekly basis (up through my junior year in high school):

Took me to and picked me up from soccer practices and went to every game: ~4 hours/week
Ditto for my sister and ballet: ~2 hours per week
Picked up groceries: ~4 hours per week
Drove my Sister and I to school every morning (bus didn't come by our house, school was 30 min away on average) ~10 hours per week
Attended PTA meetings and other after-school events: ~5-15 hours per week
Took my sister and I clothes shopping from time to time: ~20 hours per week (mostely due to my sister) when it happened (about 4 weeks out of the year)
Vaccummed (although I did this starting in High School), did laundry, and generally cleaned: ~8 hours per week
Misc other things (picking up takeout, getting oil changed, school trips, etc) ~7 hours per week on average


And I'm sure I'm still missing stuff.
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
Stay at Home Mom != Sit around the house to take care of Kids Mom

My mom, on a weekly basis (up through my junior year in high school):

Took me to and picked me up from soccer practices and went to every game: ~4 hours/week
Ditto for my sister and ballet: ~2 hours per week
Picked up groceries: ~4 hours per week
Drove my Sister and I to school every morning (bus didn't come by our house, school was 30 min away on average) ~10 hours per week
Attended PTA meetings and other after-school events: ~5-15 hours per week
Took my sister and I clothes shopping from time to time: ~20 hours per week (mostely due to my sister) when it happened
Vaccummed (although I did this starting in High School), did laundry, and generally cleaned: ~8 hours per week
Misc other things (picking up takeout, getting oil changed, school trips, etc) ~7 hours per week on average


And I'm sure I'm still missing stuff.
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Did your dad force her to go to PTA meetings and shopping for twenty hours a week? Hell, if there's one thing I've noticed from the typical 50's-type anti-feminist families it's that they discourage shopping as much as possible.
 
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: irishScott
Stay at Home Mom != Sit around the house to take care of Kids Mom

My mom, on a weekly basis (up through my junior year in high school):

Took me to and picked me up from soccer practices and went to every game: ~4 hours/week
Ditto for my sister and ballet: ~2 hours per week
Picked up groceries: ~4 hours per week
Drove my Sister and I to school every morning (bus didn't come by our house, school was 30 min away on average) ~10 hours per week
Attended PTA meetings and other after-school events: ~5-15 hours per week
Took my sister and I clothes shopping from time to time: ~20 hours per week (mostely due to my sister) when it happened
Vaccummed (although I did this starting in High School), did laundry, and generally cleaned: ~8 hours per week
Misc other things (picking up takeout, getting oil changed, school trips, etc) ~7 hours per week on average


And I'm sure I'm still missing stuff.
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Did your dad force her to go to PTA meetings and shopping for twenty hours a week? Hell, if there's one thing I've noticed from the typical 50's-type anti-feminist families it's that they discourage shopping as much as possible.
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No. She did all that willingly. Only my dad is anti-feminist.
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
No. She did all that willingly. Only my dad is anti-feminist.
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Well, when you cut those two out your estimate is 35 hours weekly. If your dad worked the typical 40 hours/week job then what he had your mom do doesn't seem so excessive.
 
Originally posted by: AdamK47
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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So a woman should "take off her man's shoes in the afternoon", make SURE that the house is perfect when he walks in, that the kids are orderly, and even when she's had a terrible day she should be perky just to please him?

Not to mention that she should NEVER question him and his topics of conversation are more important?

I agree with some of it.

"Don't greet him with complaints and problems": Doing so to anyone, regardless of gender, is just disrespectful.

"Have dinner ready" is IMO not too much to ask, although I wouldn't be the whiner my dad is if it wasn't regular. I generally get takeout after work anyways.

 
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: irishScott
No. She did all that willingly. Only my dad is anti-feminist.
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Well, when you cut those two out your estimate is 35 hours weekly. If your dad worked the typical 40 hours/week job then what he had your mom do doesn't seem so excessive.
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My dad works about 60 hours/week on average (he's a workaholic), but the thing is my mom had Cancer that caused her to double over in pain several times a day, and she STILL did all this.

And even when she was doubling over in pain he would b!tch about how she didn't respect him or care about him or anything.

For more information about how fvcked up my family is, see this thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1986923&enterthread=y
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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Stay at Home Mom != Sit around the house to take care of Kids Mom

My mom, on a weekly basis (up through my junior year in high school):

Took me to and picked me up from soccer practices and went to every game: ~4 hours/week
Ditto for my sister and ballet: ~2 hours per week
Picked up groceries: ~4 hours per week
Drove my Sister and I to school every morning (bus didn't come by our house, school was 30 min away on average) ~10 hours per week
Attended PTA meetings and other after-school events: ~5-15 hours per week
Took my sister and I clothes shopping from time to time: ~20 hours per week (mostely due to my sister) when it happened
Vaccummed (although I did this starting in High School), did laundry, and generally cleaned: ~8 hours per week
Misc other things (picking up takeout, getting oil changed, school trips, etc) ~7 hours per week on average


And I'm sure I'm still missing stuff.
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4 hours per week for groceries? She must not have been very good at it. When the whole family goes, it takes 2-2.5 hours for us to do two weeks of grocery shopping.
20 hours per week for CLOTHES SHOPPING? That's four hours per day, five days a week. There's me, and three women in the house, and we/they don't spend that much time clothes shopping in a week. Total and complete shens.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Other than a few select items/wordings, is that really unreasonable to ask of a stay at home mom?
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Stay at Home Mom != Sit around the house to take care of Kids Mom

My mom, on a weekly basis (up through my junior year in high school):

Took me to and picked me up from soccer practices and went to every game: ~4 hours/week
Ditto for my sister and ballet: ~2 hours per week
Picked up groceries: ~4 hours per week
Drove my Sister and I to school every morning (bus didn't come by our house, school was 30 min away on average) ~10 hours per week
Attended PTA meetings and other after-school events: ~5-15 hours per week
Took my sister and I clothes shopping from time to time: ~20 hours per week (mostely due to my sister) when it happened
Vaccummed (although I did this starting in High School), did laundry, and generally cleaned: ~8 hours per week
Misc other things (picking up takeout, getting oil changed, school trips, etc) ~7 hours per week on average


And I'm sure I'm still missing stuff.
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4 hours per week for groceries? She must not have been very good at it. When the whole family goes, it takes 2-2.5 hours for us to do two weeks of grocery shopping.
20 hours per week for CLOTHES SHOPPING? That's four hours per day, five days a week. There's me, and three women in the house, and we/they don't spend that much time clothes shopping in a week. Total and complete shens.
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The clothes shopping only took place a total of 4 weeks out of every year (give or take). And my sister is not the normal chick shopper. She's a perfectionist about EVERYTHING to a fault. We had a lot of the same teachers throughout highschool, and had a lot of the same assignments. She'd get 101s, I'd get 99s. I spent about 50% of the time/effort on it that she did.
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
My dad works about 60 hours/week on average (he's a workaholic), but the thing is my mom had Cancer that caused her to double over in pain several times a day, and she STILL did all this.

And even when she was doubling over in pain he would b!tch about how she didn't respect him or care about him or anything.

For more information about how fvcked up my family is, see this thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1986923&enterthread=y
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The original post of this thread didn't say anything about cancer as far as I can tell. Your dad does suck from the sounds of it. All I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with being a wife being a full-time job.

EDIT: Just read a bit of that other thread... you dad doesn't sound exactly like a relic of the 50's, especially since he couldn't have parented until the 70's anyways. Calling your wife a bitch has never been something acceptable by that generation... or any, for that matter.
 
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