manowar821
Diamond Member
They probably can't, this is most likely just scare tactics.
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Wow, when is the RIAA going to stop
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They probably can't, this is most likely just scare tactics.
Jeff7
Lifer
RIAA + Patriot Act = You can be searched and held without a warrant. :evil:
Now they know that you rip CDs, or at least have "reasonable suspicion." 😉
The RIAA is probably just doing what the movie industry did with the introduction of VCRs, an invention which would literally end the movie industry, by their measure. It's a whining tantrum from a large corporation. Rather than adopting a new distribution method, they piss&moan, until they finally wear out and move on.
I think it was mentioned in here already - maybe the tactic is to make CDs less palatable, to try to squeeze users to "embrace" the DRM-laden digital formats.
Obviously the RIAA isn't stupid, and I think they know that CD's, or physical media, are a dying breed. All they want to do is re-re-re sell your music back to you in digital, heavily DRM'd formats. This will save them TONS of money, not having to press/manufacture/sell physical CDs. These lawsuits in all their silliness are a means by which they can make some of the money back they are losing during this transition to all digital media. As sad as it is I'd bet that in the next few years we won't even hear of these lawsuits anymore(at least I hope).
palehorse
Lifer
I wish I could get answers to a few questions I have for the RIAA...
1) If I rip CD's to .mp3, or another format, and then I throw out the actual CD's, or give them away, have I committed a crime? If so, which of those actions was a crime?
2) If I burn a mixed CD for a friend, is that a crime? If so, when did it become a crime to do so? Making mixed-tapes in the 80's was standard!
3) If I share .mp3's, within the confines of my own household, via encrypted WiFi, is it a crime? How about UNencrypted WiFi, does it become a crime?
4) If hauled into court, how does one prove "ownership" of each and every legal .mp3 in their collection when most collections are a chaotic mixture of downloaded and ripped files?!
5) How is making a backup of a CD any different, legally, than making a backup of a cassette tape?
6) Was backing up a cassette on a boombox with dual cassette players illegal back in the 80's? What about backing up CD's to cassette?
inquiring minds want to know... any wanna-be forum lawyers care to take a shot at these?
1) If I rip CD's to .mp3, or another format, and then I throw out the actual CD's, or give them away, have I committed a crime? If so, which of those actions was a crime?
2) If I burn a mixed CD for a friend, is that a crime? If so, when did it become a crime to do so? Making mixed-tapes in the 80's was standard!
3) If I share .mp3's, within the confines of my own household, via encrypted WiFi, is it a crime? How about UNencrypted WiFi, does it become a crime?
4) If hauled into court, how does one prove "ownership" of each and every legal .mp3 in their collection when most collections are a chaotic mixture of downloaded and ripped files?!
5) How is making a backup of a CD any different, legally, than making a backup of a cassette tape?
6) Was backing up a cassette on a boombox with dual cassette players illegal back in the 80's? What about backing up CD's to cassette?
inquiring minds want to know... any wanna-be forum lawyers care to take a shot at these?
Atomic Playboy
Lifer
There's a huge reason CDs won't go away completely. Mp3s are not a lossless codec. Technically CDs aren't perfect fidelity, but they are a far cry better than a 128 or 192 bitrate mp3. Sound quality isn't important to many people, but those that care have kept the vinyl industry alive through the invention of 8-tracks, cassettes, CDs and now mp3s. Until we are able to download albums at CD quality, there's little incentive to buy mp3s over buying a CD and ripping it.
The RIAA is composed of jackasses and fucktards. Their batshit lunacy has soured me to music, to the point that I haven't bought an album from a mainstream label for close to a year. I still buy some indie stuff, and I haven't pirated music in years. I just don't listen any more because these bastards want to sue me; regardless of whether I'm buying or not, I could always be buying more, and clearly the RIAA is more entitled to my money than I am. Fuck them.
The RIAA is composed of jackasses and fucktards. Their batshit lunacy has soured me to music, to the point that I haven't bought an album from a mainstream label for close to a year. I still buy some indie stuff, and I haven't pirated music in years. I just don't listen any more because these bastards want to sue me; regardless of whether I'm buying or not, I could always be buying more, and clearly the RIAA is more entitled to my money than I am. Fuck them.
heyheybooboo
Diamond Member
Of course lost in all these rants is the fact that in Atlantic v. Howell, the defendant (alledgedly) ripped CDs to the shared Kazaa directory therefore making the copyrighted sound recordings available to all other Kazaa users.
And, of course, in less than one months time in August/September, 2005, this directory was (alledgedly) accessed over 157 times.
And the defendant claims he did not (alledgedly) know the files were being shared.
And, of course, in less than one months time in August/September, 2005, this directory was (alledgedly) accessed over 157 times.
And the defendant claims he did not (alledgedly) know the files were being shared.
No - they want you to pay full price for the CD AND to have the MP3 on your computer. Separately.
And one for your iPod, too.
Oh yeah, let's not forget crappy ringtones. Gotta pay $$$ for just a fraction of the song.
Am I missing anything?
It isn't about losses anymore, it's about generating NEW revenue. (for a failing industry)
And one for your iPod, too.
Oh yeah, let's not forget crappy ringtones. Gotta pay $$$ for just a fraction of the song.
Am I missing anything?
It isn't about losses anymore, it's about generating NEW revenue. (for a failing industry)
Another Article on the subject.
Well, i was going to start my own thread, but i can just bump this one. 🙂
I think the RIAA has yet again, erased their old line, and drawn a new line in the sand. As previously mentioned, its probably just scare tactics. But where does this evolve at this point.
Well, i was going to start my own thread, but i can just bump this one. 🙂
I think the RIAA has yet again, erased their old line, and drawn a new line in the sand. As previously mentioned, its probably just scare tactics. But where does this evolve at this point.
Lemon law
Lifer
I think moonbeam is on the right track. A few free rides out of town on a rail with an addition of a little tar and feathers for some of these RIAA idiots should set the correct legal precedent.
At the rate these idiots are going, soon they will try to charge us to listen to songs on the radio.
At the rate these idiots are going, soon they will try to charge us to listen to songs on the radio.
AnitaPeterson
Diamond Member
So, what are people waiting for? I'd really like to see some Old West justice being exacted on these a$$holes.
Seriously... I am not advocating violence, but I wonder how long will it take until some RIAA member is gunned down by some vigilante waving an AK-47...
jonks
Lifer
I think simply not purchasing their products will suffice. It's similar to enabling the enemy the way we refuse to get off oil. We war with ME regimes, then give them billions in oil revenue to fund their resistance. Stop buying the product, you cut off their funds. If all consumers simply went one month without purchasing any music, the message would be heard. You'd think we could organize something like that with the Internet, but no go so far, so I'm just sticking to my own personal boycott.
AnitaPeterson
Diamond Member
Sadly, you KNOW that just won't be enough. The RIAA would just blame it on rampant piracy, saying that "see, i told you that people don't buy legal CDs anymore, since now all they're doing is download the music off the 'net!"
The boycott will NOT work, for this exact reason... even if, by absurd, one could convince the entire nation (including the rednecks who go to to their local Wal-Mart in Podunk more regular than church) to embrace solidarity and refuse buying music.
Besides that, how do you know that you're *not* buying from RIAA? Is there an easy-to-find master list, updated regularly, which indicates all the non-affiliated artists?
StageLeft
No Lifer
Holy crap, you have a spiked mace under your pillow?
Most people don't care. I personally could not care any less about the quality loss to 128. I cannot tell it's there. I love music and listen to it many hours each and every day, but I do it on low-end stuff and am not looking for differences; I'd never pay a nickel for higher quality, since 128/192 is fine for me and rabble out there.
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