wow this is how all child rapists should be punished EDIT: NOW WITH 200% MORE LINKAGE

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Armitage

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

You're a DA? Nice. What town? Also, anybody else find it ironic how a guy named DonVito is a DA?

I prosecuted those cases when I was working as an Air Force JAG - I separated from the AF a couple of months ago. If you're curious, this thread talks about one case I worked, probably the worst molestation case in Air Force history. Here's what SSgt Kelly Erickson did:

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

Was this at LAAFB? I remember hearing something about a particularly bad child molestation case there before I left in 98.

You and I have butted heads a few times in with respect to our legal system, but I think more in terms of civil litigation. While I certainly have some issues with our legal system it is far better then what is described in the OP's article or SeminoleMarine's world view. There has to be a rule of law and civilized punishment. As you said - a confession is somewhat marginal in the best of circumstances. In Iran it's next to worthless.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I know this one specific example might bring you some sense of redemption, but vigilante justice is illegal for a reason....

It offends queazy ball-less wonders is why

It also tends to lynch innocent people - but hey, I'm sure they get the right guy once in awhile, so it's all good. Right?
 
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Originally posted by: Armitage

Was this at LAAFB? I remember hearing something about a particularly bad child molestation case there before I left in 98.

You and I have butted heads a few times in with respect to our legal system, but I think more in terms of civil litigation. While I certainly have some issues with our legal system it is far better then what is described in the OP's article or SeminoleMarine's world view. There has to be a rule of law and civilized punishment. As you said - a confession is somewhat marginal in the best of circumstances. In Iran it's next to worthless.

No, it was at McChord AFB. SSgt Erickson actually committed many of the crimes as a member of the Army, but fortunately he joined the Air Force, so we retained UCMJ jurisdiction over him.

To this point, 40 years is the longest sentence ever approved by the appellate courts for child molestation by an Airman, and for whatever reason they still have not issued an opinion on U.S. v. Erickson, although it's been almost 2 1/2 years. I guess we'll see. I hope he's never freed, because I think he'll be incredibly dangerous until the day he dies.

FWIW, I could cheerfully have argued for the death penalty in his case, but it was not referred for trial as a capital case (rape is potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ, and in fact if memory serves the last military member executed by the US, in the 1960s, did not commit murder, but the attempted murder and rape of a child).
 

Subzero

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Originally posted by: SaintTigurius
CASTERATE then..
100 lashings
stoned by angry mob
stabbed in the back while getting lashed, by a angry relative of one of the victims
he was then hung from a crane by the neck and hoisted high above the crowed, to rapturous applause and cheers



Dam Fv(king straight.

stoned by angry mod , nothing beats an angry mod..



FIXED ....:thumbsup:
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: Armitage
It also tends to lynch innocent people - but hey, I'm sure they get the right guy once in awhile, so it's all good. Right?
strangely enough I saw something on the news 30 minutes ago, happened in NW Lousiana:

11 year old girl has consensual sex with 16 year old, gets pregnant, then blames a 42 year old man and gets him arrested where he sits in jail for 3 months awaiting trial. DNA test saved his ass.

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hmm, and trying to find the above link I found this also

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holy sh!t, that guy went into Angola at 16 years old and 155 lbs, one of the worst prisons in the US, and served 24 years on a false rape conviction. :|

Good week for DNA testing I guess.
 

aeroguy

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I wonder if it would work to cut convicted offenders jail sentances in half in exchange for castration, since most are repeat offenders.
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: aeroguy
I wonder if it would work to cut convicted offenders jail sentances in half in exchange for castration, since most are repeat offenders.


what about female offenders?
 
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Originally posted by: aeroguy
I wonder if it would work to cut convicted offenders jail sentances in half in exchange for castration, since most are repeat offenders.

The short answer is no, this would not help, and it would be a terrible idea IMO. The forensic psychologists who work with sex offenders will tell you that the conduct itself becomes compulsive, and most chronic pedophiles will find ways to exploit children even after their genitalia no longer work (the stereotypical conduct is old men exposing themselves, but also consider the strange, awful tale of Albert Fish).
 

Toasthead

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well at least they wont be spending millions of dollars to house this criminal until his punishment is handed out.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: chuckywang

we live differently sounds pretty elitist.

Stop playing the "PC" card. The statement was accurate, and if you are offended by the way it sounds that is your problem.