wow this is how all child rapists should be punished EDIT: NOW WITH 200% MORE LINKAGE

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

>>>......stunned their victims with blows from a stone, sexually abused them and buried the bodies in shallow graves in the desert south of Tehran.<<<

This isn't cruel and unusual though, huh? It is bleeding hearts like you that have our justice system so screwed up. This has nothing to do with an innocent person, he confessed. The only innocent ones here were the children. Besides, this didn't take place in our country so our constitution has no say in this case. They do things differently (the right way) in other countries. Scum like this get NO SYMPATHY from me. This also is more than a case of child molestation, this is MURDER.

Screw you, jackass. You don't know jack about these cases, and have sure as hell never lived with them the way I have. You don't know the victims, and the damage - I do.

I was, BTW, responding to the thread title and subject, not this particular case. I will observe, however, that a confession in Iran is worth less than nothing - confessions are far less reliable as accurate evidence than a layperson might think, and in a nation known to use torture as an interrogation tactic they are downright meaningless. People will say whatever they're told to say after they've been beaten and deprived of sleep.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

>>>......stunned their victims with blows from a stone, sexually abused them and buried the bodies in shallow graves in the desert south of Tehran.<<<

This isn't cruel and unusual though, huh? It is bleeding hearts like you that have our justice system so screwed up. This has nothing to do with an innocent person, he confessed. The only innocent ones here were the children. Besides, this didn't take place in our country so our constitution has no say in this case. They do things differently (the right way) in other countries. Scum like this get NO SYMPATHY from me. This also is more than a case of child molestation, this is MURDER.

Fine. Have no sympathy but have some human decency. The point is to not stoop to the murderer's level.

Only way to teach scum is by setting an example.

That's what the death penalty is for. A civilized, orderly death penalty.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

You're a DA? Nice. What town? Also, anybody else find it ironic how a guy named DonVito is a DA?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

You're a DA? Nice. What town? Also, anybody else find it ironic how a guy named DonVito is a DA?

I prosecuted those cases when I was working as an Air Force JAG - I separated from the AF a couple of months ago. If you're curious, this thread talks about one case I worked, probably the worst molestation case in Air Force history. Here's what SSgt Kelly Erickson did:

In this instance, the accused raped his daughter 2-6 times a week for six years, starting at age 4, performed acts of oral and anal sodomy on her with about the same frequency, over the same time frame, had phone sex with her, used sex toys on her, showed her pornography, bathed and showered with her and performed various other indecent touching, and tried to mate her with a dog. He encouraged her to engage in sex acts with her older brother, and placed her, nude, at about age 5, on her nude infant brother in an effort to get them to have sex. He was previously charged with the molestation of a neighbor girl, and obstructed justice by telling the aforementioned daughter to lie at his trial (where he was acquitted). Finally, he raped and molested his older daughter on several occasions over several years, when she was 9 to 11. He committed a couple of other offenses as well.

 

[StageLeft]

I don't like lynchings. He got what he deserved, I guess, but I really don't like people acting like animals in a pack.

 

[Kenazo]

That is awful.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
i cant find a link yet (looking) but i read this in the newspaper this morning

a serial rapist/killer who was dubbed the vampire of the desert raped and killed 21 people, most younger than 15 year old

his reward?

100 lashings
stoned by angry mob
stabbed in the back while getting lashed, by a angry relative of one of the victims
he was then hung from a crane by the neck and hoisted high above the crowed, to rapturous applause and cheers

in my view every child rapist should go this way

heres links

guardian
times of india

LOL. Man, that's great!

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Screw you, jackass. You don't know jack about these cases, and have sure as hell never lived with them the way I have. You don't know the victims, and the damage - I do.

This is all I need to see to know you are nothing more than a piece of trash. You call yourself a DA. That must stand for dumbass. You can't even have a discussion without resorting to name-calling. Do you act like that in court when the opposition challenges you on something? Our justice system will be better off when you and people like you no longer work for it. You don't know me so you can't say what I know and don't know.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito

Screw you, jackass. You don't know jack about these cases, and have sure as hell never lived with them the way I have. You don't know the victims, and the damage - I do.

This is all I need to see to know you are nothing more than a piece of trash. You call yourself a DA. That must stand for dumbass. You can't even have a discussion without resorting to name-calling. Do you act like that in court when the opposition challenges you on something? Our justice system will be better off when you and people like you no longer work for it. You don't know me so you can't say what I know and don't know.

LOL - based on your posts, I can believe you, on the other hand, might actually be a Marine. I don't recall ever calling myself a DA, since I've never worked for any county or local government; indeed, I've never practiced in state court, other than an internship when I was in law school.

 

[Hammer]

"This is my happiest day. It makes up for the day my son was killed," said Mr Khosravi.

so they're even then? its ok his son got killed? 😕

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

>>>......stunned their victims with blows from a stone, sexually abused them and buried the bodies in shallow graves in the desert south of Tehran.<<<

This isn't cruel and unusual though, huh? It is bleeding hearts like you that have our justice system so screwed up. This has nothing to do with an innocent person, he confessed. The only innocent ones here were the children. Besides, this didn't take place in our country so our constitution has no say in this case. They do things differently (the right way) in other countries. Scum like this get NO SYMPATHY from me. This also is more than a case of child molestation, this is MURDER.

Fine. Have no sympathy but have some human decency. The point is to not stoop to the murderer's level.

Only way to teach scum is by setting an example.

That's what the death penalty is for. A civilized, orderly death penalty.

Incorrect. A civilized, orderly death does not set an example. Showing what will happen to you if you fvck around will.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by: Hammer

"This is my happiest day. It makes up for the day my son was killed," said Mr Khosravi.

so they're even then? its ok his son got killed? 😕

yeha that struck me as kinda odd too... 😕 :Q

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito

Screw you, jackass. You don't know jack about these cases, and have sure as hell never lived with them the way I have. You don't know the victims, and the damage - I do.

This is all I need to see to know you are nothing more than a piece of trash. You call yourself a DA. That must stand for dumbass. You can't even have a discussion without resorting to name-calling. Do you act like that in court when the opposition challenges you on something? Our justice system will be better off when you and people like you no longer work for it. You don't know me so you can't say what I know and don't know.

look. the point is, the punishment given to the rapist was amoral and unconstitutional. if you have faith in the constitution and what it is meant to uphold/protect, then you should not revel in this event.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: DonVito
BS. I've prosecuted a number of child molesters, and even sent one to prison for life, but I wouldn't advocate this kind of thing. Child molestation is a crime that lends itself to at least the occasional conviction of an innocent person, so I hardly think it would benefit society to torture and kill them. Also, there's a reason the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment . . .

>>>......stunned their victims with blows from a stone, sexually abused them and buried the bodies in shallow graves in the desert south of Tehran.<<<

This isn't cruel and unusual though, huh? It is bleeding hearts like you that have our justice system so screwed up. This has nothing to do with an innocent person, he confessed. The only innocent ones here were the children. Besides, this didn't take place in our country so our constitution has no say in this case. They do things differently (the right way) in other countries. Scum like this get NO SYMPATHY from me. This also is more than a case of child molestation, this is MURDER.

Fine. Have no sympathy but have some human decency. The point is to not stoop to the murderer's level.

Only way to teach scum is by setting an example.

That's what the death penalty is for. A civilized, orderly death penalty.

Incorrect. A civilized, orderly death does not set an example. Showing what will happen to you if you fvck around will.

Um...you die. Hence, the death penalty. If repercussions such as death does not deter a murderer, then I don't think they'll be detered by anything.

 

[Drizzy]

Blah blah blah... it was interesting to read how a different society handles punishment of what we would consider "death row" type of people.

 

[JImmyK]

Originally posted by: franguinho

Originally posted by: Hammer

"This is my happiest day. It makes up for the day my son was killed," said Mr Khosravi.

so they're even then? its ok his son got killed? 😕

yeha that struck me as kinda odd too... 😕 :Q

Thats simply a communication gap, Im almost positive. Im sure the underlying message in farci was that he felt some sort of redemption for the day his son died, and that being translated probably came across incorrectly.

I'll be watching the news sometime and their voice over translation of a foreign language can be just downright wrong.

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: maziwanka

look. the point is, the punishment given to the rapist was amoral and unconstitutional. if you have faith in the constitution and what it is meant to uphold/protect, then you should not revel in this event.

What are you talking about??? This did not take place in our country, so how can you even mention the constitution? It has no bearing on this case.

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: DonVito

LOL - based on your posts, I can believe you, on the other hand, might actually be a Marine. I don't recall ever calling myself a DA, since I've never worked for any county or local government; indeed, I've never practiced in state court, other than an internship when I was in law school.

I am a Marine. Is there a problem????

So you are not a DA, just a lawyer. Just take my previous post and substitute the word lawyer where it says DA.

 

[imported_Reck]

so let's swap legal systems with iran then. isn't that a good idea?

 

[ivol07]

Not just child rapist...all rapist.

 

[Kipper]

Well, glad to see that some people in this thread have moved on since the 17th century. :disgust:

People ENJOYING public executions never fails to increase my faith in the human race.

 

Pretty harsh but hey, who am I to judge?

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: maziwanka

look. the point is, the punishment given to the rapist was amoral and unconstitutional. if you have faith in the constitution and what it is meant to uphold/protect, then you should not revel in this event.

What are you talking about??? This did not take place in our country, so how can you even mention the constitution? It has no bearing on this case.

You seem to find no wrong with the punishment because it was legal in that country, a country in which our constitution has no jurisdiction over?

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

You seem to find no wrong with the punishment because it was legal in that country, a country in which our constitution has no jurisdiction over?

No, I find no wrong in it because that is the law in their country. I don't think it needs to be taken to that extreme here, I am saying leave our constitution out of it because it has nothing to do with this case.

 

[Kibbo]

Seminole,

The reason that we cannot treat our criminals this way is not because they deservve mercy or compassion. If one finds it in one's heart to feel mercy for "people" like this, it has more to do with one's own virtue, not what the criminal deserves. Oh, and I don't have that level of personal virtue.

Similarly, we cannot treat these pieces of crap like they deserve because of what that would turn us into. We would lower ourselves if we did that. And if we act like animals, we no longer have the ethically elevated position we need in order to sit in moral judgement of animals.

Why can we punish them? Because we're better than them.
Why can't we punish them the way our instincts tell us to? Because we're better than them.