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Zaap

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And speaking of useless partisan puppets, here you are to demonstrate my point. Thanks!
Notice how he can't refute the point.

Bowfinger, one of the government bootlickers, proudly on his knees in support of anything 'his guy' wants to do, labeling everyone else as 'partisan'. Been to any protests lately? Of course you haven't.
 

Bowfinger

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Notice how he can't refute the point.
You didn't make a point, asshat. You just spewed your standard mindless partisan tripe, straight from RNC.org.


Bowfinger, one of the government bootlickers, proudly on his knees in support of anything 'his guy' wants to do, labeling everyone else as 'partisan'.
You're projecting, sweetie. I have yet to see you deviate from the RNC talking points on anything. In contrast, I have been quite critical of Obama and his administration for their civil liberties abuses. Unlike you, I have sufficient critical thinking skills to recognize that this isn't a new problem that started after 2008. It's been building for decades, and as long as useless partisan puppets like you treat it as political ammunition it will only get worse.


Been to any protests lately? Of course you haven't.
I'm sure reading isn't your strong suit, but if you can plow through your own post you'll note that you, yourself noted the lack of such protests even under Bush. Indeed, I didn't participate in any anti-Bush protests, nor have I participated in any anti-Obama protests. You fail.
 

Zaap

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You didn't make a point, asshat. You just spewed your standard mindless partisan tripe, straight from RNC.org.
I pointed out a FACT and you got all butthurt over it because you're a very typical leftwing government bootlicker who can't stand any opposition to your Dear Leader. Your insane reaction to what I said proves it. We're all used to partisan liberal shills pretending to be 'above partisanship'. It's lame and no one buys it.



I have yet to see you deviate from the RNC talking points on anything.
See, case in point. Leftwing shill whining about everything that calls your ilk out on your hypocrisy as "RNC talking points".

In contrast, I have been quite critical of Obama and his administration for their civil liberties abuses.
If true, then you're the exemption to the overall silence and subservient complicity from the left, not the rule.


I'm sure reading isn't your strong suit, but if you can plow through your own post you'll note that you, yourself noted the lack of such protests even under Bush.
LOL! This is too funny. You misread my post, then try to make a slam about poor reading skills.

Ofcourse what I said was, even when liberals were out protesting during the Bush years, they weren't protesting against government abuses, they were protesting an R being in office. (That has nothing to do with any lack of said protests.) The very same policies (and worse) from Dear Leader and we see nothing but subservient ass-kissing for Dear Leader. You're no different.
 

Doppel

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As for your last line, have cops killing innocent people actually risen? Or is it just more known because of 24/7 media. I am pretty sure it is the later.
Specifically in regard to innocents killed during SWAT raids it is certainly an actual rise, because there is an actual rise in Rambo cops.

We hear about "weapons of war" on the streets and how citizens need to relinquish, but nobody dares utter a single word about why police need them--and police have access to much better stuff than regular joes.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-...apons-war-too-often-mistakenly-shoot-and-kill

While only a fraction of SWAT-style raids result in actual charges of any kind

A fraction is not a quantifiable term in this context other than to indicate less than half. This means a huge number of SWAT raids are over such stupid things that no charges are levied at all!

Botched Paramilitary Police Raids - Interactive Map

http://www.cato.org/raidmap

Interestingly despite throwing thousands in gear at these rambo wannabes there appears to be no money available for vest cams to film their raids, which would help illuminate their behavior during the event.
 
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werepossum

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That's what I find alarming and factual regardless of how you interpret his statements regarding the Peace Corps. There's nothing peaceful about any of this. Yea, they aren't buying tanks but do they really need MRAPs? Is the NSA spying on citizens? Yes to all and it's indeed alarming. But hey, it's all for our own good....keep growing the government and handing over hard earned freedoms as many would have it. It may not be directly the POTUS who is making all the shots but he's not trying real hard to be transparent and he's ultimately accountable as the Chief Executive of this country.
Agreed.

When I first heard the speech I found it mild alarming, but dismissed it as campaign rhetoric. I found it mildly alarming not because I envisioned SWAT teams busting down doors, but because I thought it might presage a huge growth of government spending. However, what we've seen is exactly what he promised - a civilian police force every bit as powerful and as well-funded as the military.

Here's the last sentence of the factcheck article.


What the speech sounds like is the kind of feel-good bullshit a dictator feeds the masses to lull them into a false sense of security. Contrast what was said then with what is happening now and you have your answer. Ignore it at your own peril. Is he going to haul off his "enemies" on a wholesale level? More than likely not. Would he like to? You bet.

What of that speech has Dear Leader achieved? Which of the goals he stated on his agenda are now a reality? Just one for sure.

We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

Eskimospy tells werepossum he's mentally ill. Well that is rich. The man that would pick the corn kernels out of Obama's shit if asked, the man who posts like a pit bull, chomping and chomping and chomping, never giving up in a quest to prove the self-perceived superiority of his own intellect. The man who exhibits the most blatant example of obsessive compulsive behavior here calls another poster mentally ill for expressing his opinion which is based wholly in reality.

Eskimospy is the one that feels we should just talk to the aliens.
LOL Change "if asked" to "if allowed" and I'd agree.

Yes, that is a major cause for concern, that the U.S. is becoming an overtly, almost obsessively militaristic police state. It belongs in the old Soviet Union or some third-world dictatorship, not the land of the free. It started decades ago, tagging along with the War on Drugs, and has escalated ever since. It's something all Americas should be united in condemning.

Unfortunately, the partisan puppets immediately want to pin it on Obama, instantly derailing the conversation into useless partisan bickering. Which is, of course, exactly what our overlords want. They count on bitter partisanship to keep us divided and fighting each other instead of uniting to fight the subversion of America.
This is the Executive branch; whom should we blame but the man at the top? Maybe the legal seeds were planted under Reagan, but the actualization, the development, the execution, that's by Obama, not Zombie Reagan. Justifications once created to use against murderous drug lords are now used against anyone that government finds annoying - or just anyone that government feels is incapable of mounting an effective defense. And the left is totally on board with this. Whether this is because it's Obama doing it or because you feel government should be able to use SWAT teams to intimidate its ideological enemies, the effect is exactly the same.

Worse, the left is historically better on this than the right, but now you're embracing it and even ferociously defending it. By defending the practice under a Democrat and waiting for a Republican President to even begin criticizing it, let alone working to overturn it, you guarantee that this becomes entrenched as the new norm.
 

fskimospy

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lol. I am impressed at the strength of some people's delusions. You have the full speech that makes it quite clear what Obama was talking about, you have an objective, independent authority tell you that you're wrong, and still the delusions persist. Now we have boomerang saying that Obama deep down inside wants to conduct mass arrests of his enemies too.

Seriously, people. Listen to yourselves. Do you know how insane you sound? If you genuinely believe those things you should really go talk to someone as you're exhibiting signs of pretty extreme paranoia.