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Genx87

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You are an idiot at trying to be funny. We have 0 cars parked on my private road all the time. Nobody pulls into our street ever. This is the only time when a car has been there.

This is getting good. Pot calling the kettle black.


Explain the phone tapping.
Do you even go to a mosque? You have no idea how it is to be talking.

Exactly how does one determine if they are being tapped? Tapping is like a packet sniffer. It just listens to the line like a packet sniffer snifs packets on the broadcast domain.

You saying the FBI would not look into everyone who goes to a mosque that gets money from the Iranian government? That has people working for the Iranian Government in D.C? It's an Iranian mosque with financing from the Iranian government.

Why would they look at every single one of them? Do you have any idea the manpower that would require?

Time to come back to reality.

btw which sect is this mosque?

 

Genx87

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Your right. If I pull into a mosque that has people working for the Iranian government running it the FBI should show no interest in anyone who goes into it.

Now they are working for the Iranian govt?

This story is getting better by the minute!
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Exactly how does one determine if they are being tapped? Tapping is like a packet sniffer. It just listens to the line like a packet sniffer snifs packets on the broadcast domain.

Except there's signal loss and/or op-amp noise if the tap uses a booster to disguise the signal loss.

The phone company could very likely tell that there was something wrong with your phone line.

I don't think this story is beyond believing, but if you are lying about it then that's pretty shameful.
 

Aimster

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The phone company said there was something on the line. When you pick up the phone you can always hear a tap tap clicking noise. What would be on the line?

This is a Shia mosque. It's a big Iranian mosque with connections to the Iranian government. They also have a school there.

It doesn't require that much manpower. Most of those people were probably already on watch. I was new there so they looked at the information.

How does it require a lot of manpower if I was orobably the only one at the mosque? That's what I thought.

You are lost if you believe the FBI does nothing. You can believe they do nothing. That's good. You never been to a mosque to know what goes on there.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Your right. If I pull into a mosque that has people working for the Iranian government running it the FBI should show no interest in anyone who goes into it.

Now they are working for the Iranian govt?

This story is getting better by the minute!

Iranian Intersection in D.C. It is run by the Iranian goverment for people to get their passports to go to Iran. You dont know the facts so u like to believe what u make up.
 

Genx87

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Except there's signal loss and/or op-amp noise if the tap uses a booster to disguise the signal loss.

Even if there is signal loss I would be very surprised if the FBI would use a device that could be easily detected by the human ear.

The phone company said there was something on the line. When you pick up the phone you can always hear a tap tap clicking noise. What would be on the line?

Doesnt mean it is a tap you fool. It could mean there is noise on the line because the line is bad or there is a bad connection between your house and the CO.

This is a Shia mosque. It's a big Iranian mosque with connections to the Iranian government. They also have a school there.

/gasp

It doesn't require that much manpower. Most of those people were probably already on watch. I was new there so they looked at the information.

What are you talking about? You just described a situation where the FBI spent manpower to get a tap, set it up, and get at least 1 or more officers in a car and out to your house to survey you. Now multiple that by the hundreds or more of people who visit that mosque and then times that by the amount of mosques in this country.

You are drifting farther and farther from reality with each passing post.

How does it require a lot of manpower if I was orobably the only one at the mosque? That's what I thought.

Didnt you say that you went to a funeral? What, was it just you and the dead guy in there?

You are lost if you believe the FBI does nothing. You can believe they do nothing. That's good. You never been to a mosque to know what goes on there.

I believe the FBI does a lot of things. One of them however isnt going through the trouble of surveying somebody like you.

I have never been to a mosque but that doesnt disqualify me from laughing at your story. Maybe you should tell us what goes on there that would warrant a reason for your story?

 

Aimster

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That's fine you are an idiot and you can believe what you want.

You do not work for the FBI nor do you know what goes on. You just believe they don't do anything. I am sharing you what happend and everything you have questioned I have answered.

I'm so glad we have an FBI agent here on the forums to tell us how the FBI works and how much manpower they invest into certain things.

You seem to forget the 9/11 highjackers were nobodys and turned into somebodys.

Yes my phone just happens to make a clicking noise the day after I go to a mosque and there happens to a car parked outside a private driveway the day after too. This happens every day to everyone.

The FBI has no interest in the Iranian mosque I go to. I mean it is the only Iranian mosque in the United States with links to the Iranian government. That still doesn't classify it as being important enough to look into everyone who goes there. I mean it takes up too much time and the billions of dollars we have invested into keeping our country safe is being used up on office jobs.
 

Genx87

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That's fine you are an idiot and you can believe what you want.

Are we going to take our toys home as well?

You do not work for the FBI nor do you know what goes on. You just believe they don't do anything. I am sharing you what happend and everything you have questioned I have answered.

Read my writing, Ill type this real slow for you.

I believe the FBI does a lot of things(this erases your notion I think the FBI does nothing). However I dont believe they would bother surveying somebody like you.

I'm so glad we have an FBI agent here on the forums to tell us how the FBI works and how much manpower they invest into certain things.

Really? Who is he? Can I talk with him?

You seem to forget the 9/11 highjackers were nobodys and turned into somebodys.

Ok

Yes my phone just happens to make a clicking noise the day after I go to a mosque and there happens to a car parked outside a private driveway the day after too. This happens every day to everyone.

I think you are paranoid. I suggest seeking help immediately. The world isnt always out to get you!

The FBI has no interest in the Iranian mosque I go to. I mean it is the only Iranian mosque in the United States with links to the Iranian government. That still doesn't classify it as being important enough to look into everyone who goes there. I mean it takes up too much time and the billions of dollars we have invested into keeping our country safe is being used up on office jobs.

Now now just because we didnt believe your little story doesnt mean we dont like you. No need for the self-pity and anguish over this little incident.
 

Aimster

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So smart guy with all the answers who thinks I care if you believe my story or not. You are doing a horrible job of trying to prove my story as being a fake.

Tell me how the FBI knows who I am without looking into me? You make no sense.
Anyone who the FBI doesn't know about who goes into a mosque is a person of interest. You saying they only go after people they know about? So I guess the next terrorist attack on the U.S will be from someone they currently know about.

How does the FBI know I am not part of Al Qaeda? They don't even know who I am. That requires getting to know me. I am a Muslim with blood in Iran afterall. I did go into a mosque that has connections to a country the U.S labels as being a terrorist country. I guess that doesn't really mean anything to them because they can easily tell I am not a person of interest.

I look the same as those 19 highjackers. Who is to say my beliefs are different or the same without doing any digging up?
 

Genx87

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So smart guy with all the answers who thinks I care if you believe my story or not. You are doing a horrible job of trying to prove my story as being a fake.

Because you keep responding. As for me doing a horrbile job to show your story as a fake. Ill leave it upto you. Seems like you are doing a damn fine job of it.

Tell me how the FBI knows who I am without looking into me? You make no sense.

I think if my memory serves me correct I am not the one making grand statements about the FBI staking out my house. To me the FBI doesnt know you from a hole in the ground. I dont believe your story. So dont ask me anything about the FBI.

Anyone who the FBI doesn't know about who goes into a mosque is a person of interest. You saying they only go after people they know about? So I guess the next terrorist attack on the U.S will be from someone they currently know about.

Again for the 3rd time. I think the FBI does a lot of things. However I dont think they think enough about you to waste time surveying you.

How many more times do I need to write this out for you before it sinks in bunkie?


How does the FBI know I am not part of Al Qaeda? They don't even know who I am.

Exactly, but lets take it 1 step further. They also dont care who you are.

That requires getting to know me. I am a Muslim with blood in Iran afterall. I did go into a mosque that has connections to a country the U.S labels as being a terrorist country. I guess that doesn't really mean anything to them because they can easily tell I am not a person of interest.

/gasp run for the hills!

I look the same as those 19 highjackers. Who is to say my beliefs are different or the same without doing any digging up?

Well if you are so worried about if your beliefs are any different. Maybe you should sent the FBI a mean nasty letter about how you want to ram planes into the skyscraper. That will get you some legitimate attention and allow them to check you out and determine you are nothing but a harmless 2 bit msgboard hack with an agenda to prove. And best of all have nothing in common with the hijackers from 9-11.
 

kaizersose

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if the FBI is investigating you then:
-the FBI sends cars to the private homes of everyone in the US who visits a mosque
-the FBI sets up a wiretap on the home of everyone in the US who visits a mosque
-both of the above actions are set up within 24 hours

be reasonable. how many people do you think actually work for the FBI? how fast do govt. organizations move?

 

Aimster

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I am responding to you because I don't get your thinking. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. You have nothing solid to ask or say other than "I believe". You keep saying I am paranoid when I do not even care if the FBI tapped my phone or came to my house. I am the one who said great. I am the one who called my dad paranoid.

You can believe the FBI doesn't investigate anyone they don't know about. Then I guess they will never know about anyone once the people they currently know about die.

Your lack of thinking is making me end this conversation. You can believe what you want and good luck with that.

You should write a letter to the President. The FBI took 1 day out of their schedule to investigate me to see who I was. This is serious business. The FBI also doesn't look into people who take pictures of buildings because I mean that is a waste of goverment time.

next time you try to own me at least come up with something better than "I believe" and know what you are talking about. You still don't realize the 19 highjackers were nobody and they were not even on the radar. You suggest the goverment still lets this happen. With that said good luck with your thinking.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: kaizersose
if the FBI is investigating you then:
-the FBI sends cars to the private homes of everyone in the US who visits a mosque
-the FBI sets up a wiretap on the home of everyone in the US who visits a mosque
-both of the above actions are set up within 24 hours

be reasonable. how many people do you think actually work for the FBI? how fast do govt. organizations move?

I don't know, do you?
10 minute drive from my house to the FBI building. I would say it takes 30 minutes in traffic.
 

Genx87

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You can believe the FBI doesn't investigate anyone they don't know about. Then I guess they will never know about anyone once the people they currently know about die.

For the fourth time, ahh forget it. If you cant figure it out by now you will never figure it out.

Your lack of thinking is making me end this conversation. You can believe what you want and good luck with that.

My lack of thinking? Thank you for the laugh lol

You should write a letter to the President. The FBI took 1 day out of their schedule to investigate me to see who I was. This is serious business. The FBI also doesn't look into people who take pictures of buildings because I mean that is a waste of goverment time.

Why should I write this letter? For the 3rd time I dont believe your bogus story? Did you grow up under power lines or something?


next time you try to own me at least come up with something better than "I believe" and know what you are talking about. You still don't realize the 19 highjackers were nobody and they were not even on the radar. You suggest the goverment still lets this happen. With that said good luck with your thinking.

Ok, Ill take your advice.

Take a look at this thread and tell me if you can objectively tell me more than 2 whackjobs believed you.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Genx87
That's fine you are an idiot and you can believe what you want.

Are we going to take our toys home as well?
Well said :disgust:

Clearly the childish language in this thread is coming from one direction only ;)


Doesnt mean it is a tap you fool. It could mean there is noise on the line because the line is bad or there is a bad connection between your house and the CO.

I didn't say it was a tap, I said if there was one, the phone company could probably tell 'smoething'.

As for a 'click' I'm not an expert on phone taps, but phones themselves are extremely low-tech devices; there may be nothing the FBI can do about it. Since they have to have some sort of switch, a crappy phone on the resident's line could very well create a click when the switch is activated.
 

Taejin

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I don't know Aimster at all, but if others can say Aimster is normally not paranoid and continually bathed in delusions of grandeur, then I think a cursory check by the FBI into Aimster/family is possible.

In all honesty, I will not claim to know what the FBI can or can not do in this nation. Remember, this is a federal policing force - many of the things they have done and do are never revealed to the public, nor passes into our realm of consciousness.

It would be foolhardy to completely dismiss the fact he may have been investigated. If you, GenX actually do have extensive job experience in the FBI, then I would consider your words more carefully - but as I see it, you are just trying to make fun of Aimster with meaningless comments and "common sense" logic that has no basis on reality and no grounding.

And, to summarize, I don't think Aimster really gives two sh*ts whether or not you believe his story, I think you are irritating him though - someone constantly calling me a liar and paranoid would annoy me too.
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: Genx87
You are an idiot at trying to be funny. We have 0 cars parked on my private road all the time. Nobody pulls into our street ever. This is the only time when a car has been there.

This is getting good. Pot calling the kettle black.


Explain the phone tapping.
Do you even go to a mosque? You have no idea how it is to be talking.

Exactly how does one determine if they are being tapped? Tapping is like a packet sniffer. It just listens to the line like a packet sniffer snifs packets on the broadcast domain.

You saying the FBI would not look into everyone who goes to a mosque that gets money from the Iranian government? That has people working for the Iranian Government in D.C? It's an Iranian mosque with financing from the Iranian government.

Why would they look at every single one of them? Do you have any idea the manpower that would require?

Time to come back to reality.

btw which sect is this mosque?

Not true, i have hada phone tappede before and i know EXACTLY what it sounds like
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: Genx87
You are an idiot at trying to be funny. We have 0 cars parked on my private road all the time. Nobody pulls into our street ever. This is the only time when a car has been there.

This is getting good. Pot calling the kettle black.


Explain the phone tapping.
Do you even go to a mosque? You have no idea how it is to be talking.

Exactly how does one determine if they are being tapped? Tapping is like a packet sniffer. It just listens to the line like a packet sniffer snifs packets on the broadcast domain.

You saying the FBI would not look into everyone who goes to a mosque that gets money from the Iranian government? That has people working for the Iranian Government in D.C? It's an Iranian mosque with financing from the Iranian government.

Why would they look at every single one of them? Do you have any idea the manpower that would require?

Time to come back to reality.

btw which sect is this mosque?

Not true, i have hada phone tappede before and i know EXACTLY what it sounds like

What does it sound like?
 

beyoku

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a light clicking sound.
there was actually a guy in a swivel chair, in a makeshift contruction trailer that blew the cover

EDIT - THIS WAS IN 1997.
I dont know what kind of difference it makes.
My sisters boyfriend was a big drug seller. he was in a different state and i lived in their house.
They also raieded the house and torn everything to shreds just like in a movie. And i never got anything back or any money - i was just SOL.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Taejin
It would be foolhardy to completely dismiss the fact he may have been investigated.

Foolhardy? Using that word implies grave consequences for underestimating the tenacity of the FBI. To be honest, I think you are being overly dramatic in your choice of words there.

Total consequences to me for completely dismissing Aimster's story: none
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Taejin
It would be foolhardy to completely dismiss the fact he may have been investigated.

Foolhardy? Using that word implies grave consequences for underestimating the tenacity of the FBI. To be honest, I think you are being overly dramatic in your choice of words there.

Total consequences to me for completely dismissing Aimster's story: none

total consequences if the FBI is really invading people's lives for something as simple as a mosque?

Massive.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Taejin
It would be foolhardy to completely dismiss the fact he may have been investigated.

Foolhardy? Using that word implies grave consequences for underestimating the tenacity of the FBI. To be honest, I think you are being overly dramatic in your choice of words there.

Total consequences to me for completely dismissing Aimster's story: none

total consequences if the FBI is really invading people's lives for something as simple as a mosque?

Massive.

http://www.pittsburghcitypaper...ch/cov03/cv010803.html

It happens daily. It's not uncommon at all. Anyone who thinks it doesn't happen is clueless.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I went to the mosque in my mom's car. I get a call the next day from my dad asking me if I went anywhere with the car recently and I said no and asked him why. He told me there was an "FBI looking" car parked outside his house. This is a private drive-way and there is no business for anyone to be there. My dad pulled in and as soon as they saw my dad they drove-off.

Then my dad said he heard some weird noises on the phone. He called the telephone company and they said there was something on the line. My dad called again and the line was clean and the FBI looking car has not been around since.

Now I have my dad yelling at me and telling me I have no business at a mosque. If I need to pray I should do it in my own home. I went for a funeral... Talk about paranoid.

This mosque has cameras outside of it, but people say it belongs to the mosque. It is right next to a police station too. This funeral was huge and there must have been 100+ cars there.

Anyways, A+ to the FBI or CIA, whoever. I don't mind them doing what they do as long as they realize I am not a damn threat.

Lets hope you don't end up "accused" , jailed for three years, tortured, w/o the right to trail, no charges layed, etc like your kin the FBI rounded up here and in afghanistan. I'm sure you know something though....are you of fighting age? What's your name?