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jme5343

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I learned two things from the video and this thread.

1.)Claire's accent on LOST isn't really that terrible.
2.)There's something wrong with Kalenal.
 

Saint Michael

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Originally posted by: Kalenal
You have to understand though there is nothing wrong with being a pedophile.

Here's the point. There is nothing wrong with being a pedophile (see edit), there is something wrong with molesting children. The reason we need to be able to talk about it is we say that people need to get help, but if they come out and seek help we vilify and shun them. This attitude actually increases the risk to children of being abused, because it prevents people with these urges from dealing with them in a positive, constructive way. People need to end these knee-jerk emotional reactions so real progress can be made.

Edit: Er, not that there's nothing wrong with being a pedophile, rather there's nothing illegal about being a pedophile. There's also no reason hate somebody because they are a pedophile, they need help.
 

Kalenal

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Mar 9, 2008
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Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: Kalenal
You have to understand though there is nothing wrong with being a pedophile.

Here's the point. There is nothing wrong with being a pedophile (see edit), there is something wrong with molesting children. The reason we need to be able to talk about it is we say that people need to get help, but if they come out and seek help we vilify and shun them. This attitude actually increases the risk to children of being abused, because it prevents people with these urges from dealing with them in a positive, constructive way. People need to end these knee-jerk emotional reactions so real progress can be made.

Edit: Er, not that there's nothing wrong with being a pedophile, rather there's nothing illegal about being a pedophile. There's also no reason hate somebody because they are a pedophile, they need help.

I don't think people need help that are pedophiles unless they want it. Molesting a child is wrong and should require time in jail. Now the gray area is where if a trusting relationship happens where the minor starts it and agrees to it then I really see no problem with it. That is if both parties are ok by it. There has been plenty of relationships like this that have never been documented even in this day and age. Straight from wikipedia
Professor of Sociology David Finkelhor, director of the Crimes against Children Research Center, describes "child sexual abuse" as requiring two components, "(1) sexual activities involving a child and (2) an 'abusive condition' such as coercion or a large age gap between the participants indicating a lack of consensuality." Finkelhor wrote that in the USA as of 1994, approximately 20% of women and 5% to 15% of men had experienced some form of sexual abuse as children; and that he did not find evidence of dramatic increases in recent generations, or that socioeconomic circumstances are major risk factors.[12][13][14]

When an adult seeks or engages in sexual activity with a child, public sentiment usually concludes these actions as a manifestation of pedophilia, however most studies investigating incarcerated sex offenders suggest that the majority of convicted child sex offenders are not primarily or exclusively attracted to children.[15][16][17] Pro-pedophile activists use the phrase "adult-child sex" and related academic defenses to redefine "child sexual abuse" through value-neutral terminology to normalize and promote the idea that children can consent to sex with adults and are not necessarily harmed by such practice.

 

imported_Baloo

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OK, he's a bad guy, but the example given, two boys 16 and 13, is not pedophilia. If they were 11 and 8, that would be pedophilia.
 

Kalenal

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Originally posted by: loki8481
the minor starts it and agrees to it

is a 12-13 year-old really capable of consent?

certainly not in the eyes of the law, and I'd agree.

In this case it would be best to have them speak with their parents about it openly first to come to a informed decision. I am not a sociologist so I am not sure if allowing their parents to decide would be a good or bad idea. I am leaning toward good but not sure how that could effect the child in the long run if after they have had a open discussion with their parents and genuinely are in a real relationship with this adult where the parents disagree. I would say put them through a test but I think that would do more harm than good unless the parents do it someway where they don't notice.
 

eleison

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Mar 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: loki8481
the minor starts it and agrees to it

is a 12-13 year-old really capable of consent?

certainly not in the eyes of the law, and I'd agree.


In Islam, its okay.. How old were Joseph and Marry when they married? How old was Pcahontas when she meet John Smith? How old was Priscilla Presley would she meet Elvis? Should Elvis been executed? Should John Smith?

There are many other case. Back when this country was founded, many women were married arround that age. Just because its the "law", doesn't necessary mean its right or wrong. Remember, it use to be the law that black people sit in the back of the bus...
 

NanoStuff

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It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: Baloo
OK, he's a bad guy, but the example given, two boys 16 and 13, is not pedophilia. If they were 11 and 8, that would be pedophilia.


Agree... The media is sensationalizing everything. Pedophilia means before puberty. Besides, a lot of kids now who are 13+ look older than they are... their bodies have developed faster. A lot of people attribute this to better diets... Not so long ago, when were were a smaller country, if a kids body developed so fast.. their parents would already consider them adults. They would be made to work the farm or look for a husband.
 

Pacfanweb

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Dude has issues, but he did serve his time in prison, and probably has even more issues from that experience. He certainly at the LEAST needs to be monitored.
 

Kalenal

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Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.
 

ric1287

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how the hell does a normal 16y/o fall for the ol' "free candy if you hop in my van" trick. jesus.
 

SoundTheSurrender

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Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

You are a fucking moron. Didn't you hear what he said, he fine with having sex with a 5 year old.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.
 

zach0624

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Long live the super adventure club!!!

Hopefully this guy isn't the next L. Ron Hubbard.
 
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Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

uhohs... is that you?

Seriously, whoever you are, how have you made it this far without being shut down? Are all the mods asleep? Do we need to elect a late night cleaning crew?

 

Kalenal

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Mar 9, 2008
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Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.

I am more of a child lover than a pedophile. You could angry they are both the same thing.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.

I am more of a child lover than a pedophile. You could angry they are both the same thing.
a pedophile does not love children. :|
 

Kalenal

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Mar 9, 2008
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.

I am more of a child lover than a pedophile. You could angry they are both the same thing.
a pedophile does not love children. :|

Some genuinely do. Being a pedophile is just the attraction. There is nothing wrong with it.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.

I am more of a child lover than a pedophile. You could angry they are both the same thing.
a pedophile does not love children. :|

Some genuinely do. Being a pedophile is just the attraction. There is nothing wrong with it.
that's not love :confused:

there is nothing wrong with being a pedophile? did you just say that?

there are plenty of child molester boards on the net. this isn't one of them. go post there.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: PHiuR
Originally posted by: Kalenal
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
It's not nice to confront pedophiles like that. Maybe he was on his way to some little boy's house, he doesn't need shit like that.

He is not a pedophile.

He's a child molester.

Are you a pedophile, Kalenal?

I had friends that had sex in middle school, (13-14 years old), but they were both the same age, therefore I don't believe that one took advantage of the other.

However, if you throw in an adult, whom has much more experience and the know how of manipulation...then it's just the adult taking advantage of the child.

I am more of a child lover than a pedophile. You could angry they are both the same thing.
a pedophile does not love children. :|

Some genuinely do. Being a pedophile is just the attraction. There is nothing wrong with it.
that's not love :confused:

there is nothing wrong with being a pedophile? did you just say that?

there are plenty of child molester boards on the net. this isn't one of them. go post there.


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