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Wow, someone needs to knock out this fvker

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.

Wow, so someone's invariably guilty of murder if they hate someone else? :roll: How do you explain the myriads of people who hate folks their entire life and don't ever murder one?
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: skace
Nik, isn't there better battles to be won than trying to get equality for someone who forsakes equality? Why are you asking people to respect a person who would rather kill them? And why am I responding to page 7? Bah.

Because it's the right thing to do.

It's right to defend people's ignorance?

Yes. They have a right to believe what they want so long as their actions do not cause physical harm to another. While I find the views expressed on that forum repugnant and ignorant, I do not think that THEY should be "knocked out" for holding them so long as they don't try to force said beliefs on me.

If you read the link, then you would see that the stupid dead b!tch DID try to force her beliefs on people. Using profanity and oblique threats of violence.

Big deal. The store owner should have stood up to her and told her to fvck off.

Her actions were against the law and indefensible (except if you have a very shallow understanding of liberal [old school] philosophy). Freedom of speech is limited in certain circumstances. Libel is against the law as is advocating violence.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.

Wow, so someone's invariably guilty of murder if they hate someone else? :roll: How do you explain the myriads of people who hate folks their entire life and don't ever murder one?

yeah you dont see me flying over to nik's house to murder him do you?






i kid i kid
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: eigen
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Grunt03
Thanks for the warning about the sight. I am not going to ask about the sight. Its bad enought that people continue to think that way......

I do think that this sight sound be shut down.....

Why? If their site gets shut down, then so should every democrat website, every republican website, every religious website, every opinion-based website, and every website in which the only content consists of something like scientific fact or anything remotely opinionated.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-- Alexis Charles Henri Clérel de Tocqueville (1805-59), French politician, traveler, historian, "Democracy in America"


Way to be the sole voice of American values on the board Nik.:thumbsup:



heh i already said that qoute! =(

but thats ok. it needed to be re-said.

I disagree with the site. But no reason it should be shutdown.

preslove:
People DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THESE THINGS IN PUBLIC!

You are wrong. I can walk up to a black guy and call him every name in the book in front of a cop. I will NOT get arrested. Now odss are i will get my rear end kicked (rightfully so) and the black guy can get arrested if he hits me for it.

You getting assaulted by the black man for you calling him every name in the book is NOT "rightfully so". That's why it's illegal.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.
No they dont.Most of the people on that board do nothing but talk.There is recruiting going on, but once recruited people leave the e-scene.Shutting down that board would accomplish nothing.Are you also going to ban records. HATE MUSIC.Then what books?
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.

Wow, so someone's invariably guilty of murder if they hate someone else? :roll: How do you explain the myriads of people who hate folks their entire life and don't ever murder one?

God, I feel like I'm talking to a 14 year old. Public pronunciations of attempted murder often LEAD to murder. Why do you think it's against the law to, even in jest, talk about assassinating the President? Will you defend someone who does that against the secret service?
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: skace
Nik, isn't there better battles to be won than trying to get equality for someone who forsakes equality? Why are you asking people to respect a person who would rather kill them? And why am I responding to page 7? Bah.

Because it's the right thing to do.

It's right to defend people's ignorance?

Yes. They have a right to believe what they want so long as their actions do not cause physical harm to another. While I find the views expressed on that forum repugnant and ignorant, I do not think that THEY should be "knocked out" for holding them so long as they don't try to force said beliefs on me.

If you read the link, then you would see that the stupid dead b!tch DID try to force her beliefs on people. Using profanity and oblique threats of violence.

Big deal. The store owner should have stood up to her and told her to fvck off.

Her actions were against the law and indefensible (except if you have a very shallow understanding of liberal [old school] philosophy). Freedom of speech is limited in certain circumstances. Libel is against the law as is advocating violence.

Btw it would be slander since she's vocalizing it. And unless the shop keeper can prove that what she ends up saying is clearly FALSE and DAMAGING to his business, he has no grounds to sue. From what i read about the post, she was going going to tell her friends that the shop has meeting involving homosexual men and their african american partners. Granted her choice of words might be different, unless she purposefully lies and says they eat babies over tea, she really can't be sued for slander.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: skace
Nik, isn't there better battles to be won than trying to get equality for someone who forsakes equality? Why are you asking people to respect a person who would rather kill them? And why am I responding to page 7? Bah.

Because it's the right thing to do.

It's right to defend people's ignorance?

Yes. They have a right to believe what they want so long as their actions do not cause physical harm to another. While I find the views expressed on that forum repugnant and ignorant, I do not think that THEY should be "knocked out" for holding them so long as they don't try to force said beliefs on me.

If you read the link, then you would see that the stupid dead b!tch DID try to force her beliefs on people. Using profanity and oblique threats of violence.

From what I saw of the link as I skimmed it was that she voiced her opinion to the store owner; good for her, she just displayed her ignorance to the world. I couldn't care less as long as she doesn't go over and try to physically move the men.

If she's making threats then the store owner should have called the police and had them deal with it.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: skace
Nik, isn't there better battles to be won than trying to get equality for someone who forsakes equality? Why are you asking people to respect a person who would rather kill them? And why am I responding to page 7? Bah.

Because it's the right thing to do.

It's right to defend people's ignorance?

Yes. They have a right to believe what they want so long as their actions do not cause physical harm to another. While I find the views expressed on that forum repugnant and ignorant, I do not think that THEY should be "knocked out" for holding them so long as they don't try to force said beliefs on me.

If you read the link, then you would see that the stupid dead b!tch DID try to force her beliefs on people. Using profanity and oblique threats of violence.

Big deal. The store owner should have stood up to her and told her to fvck off.

Her actions were against the law and indefensible (except if you have a very shallow understanding of liberal [old school] philosophy). Freedom of speech is limited in certain circumstances. Libel is against the law as is advocating violence.


please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.

Wow, so someone's invariably guilty of murder if they hate someone else? :roll: How do you explain the myriads of people who hate folks their entire life and don't ever murder one?

God, I feel like I'm talking to a 14 year old. Public pronunciations of attempted murder often LEAD to murder. Why do you think it's against the law to, even in jest, talk about assassinating the President? Will you defend someone who does that against the secret service?

the president's case is different. If i joke around and say im going to kill one of my friends with a cop standing around, he will not arrest me. Do you know ANYTHING about law?
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?
I'm gonna kick your ass!

uh oh!
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: eigen
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Grunt03
Thanks for the warning about the sight. I am not going to ask about the sight. Its bad enought that people continue to think that way......

I do think that this sight sound be shut down.....

Why? If their site gets shut down, then so should every democrat website, every republican website, every religious website, every opinion-based website, and every website in which the only content consists of something like scientific fact or anything remotely opinionated.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-- Alexis Charles Henri Clérel de Tocqueville (1805-59), French politician, traveler, historian, "Democracy in America"


Way to be the sole voice of American values on the board Nik.:thumbsup:



heh i already said that qoute! =(

but thats ok. it needed to be re-said.

I disagree with the site. But no reason it should be shutdown.

preslove:
People DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THESE THINGS IN PUBLIC!

You are wrong. I can walk up to a black guy and call him every name in the book in front of a cop. I will NOT get arrested. Now odss are i will get my rear end kicked (rightfully so) and the black guy can get arrested if he hits me for it.

Actually, you very well may be arrested. Most municipalities have some form of public indecency laws (you can't jack-off in public... though I bet you morons would defend it) and yelling profanity directly at someone will break those laws. Also if you threaten to do harm to someone you are comitting assault.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?
I'm gonna kick your ass!

uh oh!

:roll: Way to distinguish yourself.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: eigen
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Grunt03
Thanks for the warning about the sight. I am not going to ask about the sight. Its bad enought that people continue to think that way......

I do think that this sight sound be shut down.....

Why? If their site gets shut down, then so should every democrat website, every republican website, every religious website, every opinion-based website, and every website in which the only content consists of something like scientific fact or anything remotely opinionated.


"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-- Alexis Charles Henri Clérel de Tocqueville (1805-59), French politician, traveler, historian, "Democracy in America"


Way to be the sole voice of American values on the board Nik.:thumbsup:



heh i already said that qoute! =(

but thats ok. it needed to be re-said.

I disagree with the site. But no reason it should be shutdown.

preslove:
People DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THESE THINGS IN PUBLIC!

You are wrong. I can walk up to a black guy and call him every name in the book in front of a cop. I will NOT get arrested. Now odss are i will get my rear end kicked (rightfully so) and the black guy can get arrested if he hits me for it.

You getting assaulted by the black man for you calling him every name in the book is NOT "rightfully so". That's why it's illegal.

realy i think if someone calls a black guy that they are asking to get there ass kicked. I really can not blame him for doing it either.

But you are right. it is against the law.

 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: preslove
What if this site contained muslims talking about attacking Americans?

Great question. Same answer.

What you don't get is that hate speach invariably leads to hate crimes. These people KILL "f*gs" after they talk about doing it.

Wow, so someone's invariably guilty of murder if they hate someone else? :roll: How do you explain the myriads of people who hate folks their entire life and don't ever murder one?

God, I feel like I'm talking to a 14 year old. Public pronunciations of attempted murder often LEAD to murder. Why do you think it's against the law to, even in jest, talk about assassinating the President? Will you defend someone who does that against the secret service?

Why does this country's (failing) court system hinge on the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? Nobody's guilty of murder until they actually commit the crime. Just because someone hates someone else doesn't mean they'll go out and kill them. You can't EVER convince me otherwise. I'm fvcking living proof that hating another human being doesn't necessarily lead to murder.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?

This post contradicts most of what you have written in this thread.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?
I'm gonna kick your ass!

uh oh!

:roll: Way to distinguish yourself.
Way to come out of nowhere and attack me for absolutely no reason :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?
I'm gonna kick your ass!

uh oh!

:roll: Way to distinguish yourself.

Don't worry about him. He follows me around the forums trolling.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
please tell me what cime she commited? NONE.

yes freedom of speech is limited. YOU can NOT yeall FIRE in a crowded room (if no fire) you can not instagate a riot or such.

BUT i can stand in front of a black guy and call him N##gger till im blue in the face. I can tell peple i think gays should be shot and burn in hell. I can do all of this within the law.

NOW IF i tell people that they should kill blacks and gays and they go out and do it then i can get in trouble.

Threatening someone with physical violence is called Assault and is illegal. Did you know that threatening someone with physical violence over the phone or electronically (email/internet/etc) is a felony?

yeah i know. just wanted to add the extra to be more clear (doh didnt do that though eh?).

 
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