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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I understand how 6' 170lbs can be fat. But you aren't overweight.
I have a cheapo weight bench at home I use all the time. $50 from walmart. Comes with some weights.
Birthday/Christmas, ask for one. Until then, continue eating around 1500 calories per day.
Alot of the 10lbs you have lost is probably water weight.

Until you can get weights I would do everything you can without them. Push-ups/Crunches/Jump rope...etc..etc..

How many push-ups can you do?
Could you post a pic?

Calories are way too low, especially coming from eating upwards of 7000 calories a day. That's why the OP lost 10 lbs in 10 days and doesn't notice a difference. Over half of that weight lost is muscle. This is called crash dieting. To diet effectively, you want to find your maintenance level of calories (where you neither gain or loose weight) and start lowering your intake slowly until you're loosing 1-2 lbs/week. As other posters have said, probably the best thing to do is enter a weight training program because 6'0", 170 lbs definitely isn't fat. I'm sure he will think his frame looks much better with added muscle.

You can be fat at 6' 170lbs. Maybe not overweight, but you can be fat.

I don't know what his frame looks like, nor do I know his BF%.
1500 calories a day is perfectly fine for the cutting stage of weight loss IMO.
I agree his frame would probably be much better looking with more muscle, but, as stated, I don't know what his frame looks like.
I don't know anything beyond the fact that he claims he has alot of fat on his body and wants to lose it.

I am 5'7" 135lbs. Would you say I am underweight? Overweight? Fat? No muscle? Just right?

The only problem I have with the 1500cal thing is he's saying he was eating close to 7k calories a day and he's only 170lbs. So unless he's getting a lot more exercise then that 2km, or he has an insane metabolism, he should've gained a considerable amount of weight over the time of that diet.

If either of those 2 are true, going to a 1500cal diet is going to put him into starvation mode, which is going to be very detrimental to his health and weight loss. He'll be eating through whatever muscle he has left.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I understand how 6' 170lbs can be fat. But you aren't overweight.
I have a cheapo weight bench at home I use all the time. $50 from walmart. Comes with some weights.
Birthday/Christmas, ask for one. Until then, continue eating around 1500 calories per day.
Alot of the 10lbs you have lost is probably water weight.

Until you can get weights I would do everything you can without them. Push-ups/Crunches/Jump rope...etc..etc..

How many push-ups can you do?
Could you post a pic?

Calories are way too low, especially coming from eating upwards of 7000 calories a day. That's why the OP lost 10 lbs in 10 days and doesn't notice a difference. Over half of that weight lost is muscle. This is called crash dieting. To diet effectively, you want to find your maintenance level of calories (where you neither gain or loose weight) and start lowering your intake slowly until you're loosing 1-2 lbs/week. As other posters have said, probably the best thing to do is enter a weight training program because 6'0", 170 lbs definitely isn't fat. I'm sure he will think his frame looks much better with added muscle.

You can be fat at 6' 170lbs. Maybe not overweight, but you can be fat.

I don't know what his frame looks like, nor do I know his BF%.
1500 calories a day is perfectly fine for the cutting stage of weight loss IMO.
I agree his frame would probably be much better looking with more muscle, but, as stated, I don't know what his frame looks like.
I don't know anything beyond the fact that he claims he has alot of fat on his body and wants to lose it.

I am 5'7" 135lbs. Would you say I am underweight? Overweight? Fat? No muscle? Just right?

The only problem I have with the 1500cal thing is he's saying he was eating close to 7k calories a day and he's only 170lbs. So unless he's getting a lot more exercise then that 2km, or he has an insane metabolism, he should've gained a considerable amount of weight over the time of that diet.

If either of those 2 are true, going to a 1500cal diet is going to put him into starvation mode, which is going to be very detrimental to his health and weight loss. He'll be eating through whatever muscle he has left.

You are right about one thing, it does not make sense.
I would guess his body needs about 2000 calories to keep his weight stationary.
Ingesting 5000 calories more per day for a month would have him gaining about 30lbs a month...lol.
 
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I understand how 6' 170lbs can be fat. But you aren't overweight.
I have a cheapo weight bench at home I use all the time. $50 from walmart. Comes with some weights.
Birthday/Christmas, ask for one. Until then, continue eating around 1500 calories per day.
Alot of the 10lbs you have lost is probably water weight.

Until you can get weights I would do everything you can without them. Push-ups/Crunches/Jump rope...etc..etc..

How many push-ups can you do?
Could you post a pic?

Calories are way too low, especially coming from eating upwards of 7000 calories a day. That's why the OP lost 10 lbs in 10 days and doesn't notice a difference. Over half of that weight lost is muscle. This is called crash dieting. To diet effectively, you want to find your maintenance level of calories (where you neither gain or loose weight) and start lowering your intake slowly until you're loosing 1-2 lbs/week. As other posters have said, probably the best thing to do is enter a weight training program because 6'0", 170 lbs definitely isn't fat. I'm sure he will think his frame looks much better with added muscle.

You can be fat at 6' 170lbs. Maybe not overweight, but you can be fat.

I don't know what his frame looks like, nor do I know his BF%.
1500 calories a day is perfectly fine for the cutting stage of weight loss IMO.
I agree his frame would probably be much better looking with more muscle, but, as stated, I don't know what his frame looks like.
I don't know anything beyond the fact that he claims he has alot of fat on his body and wants to lose it.

I am 5'7" 135lbs. Would you say I am underweight? Overweight? Fat? No muscle? Just right?

The only problem I have with the 1500cal thing is he's saying he was eating close to 7k calories a day and he's only 170lbs. So unless he's getting a lot more exercise then that 2km, or he has an insane metabolism, he should've gained a considerable amount of weight over the time of that diet.

If either of those 2 are true, going to a 1500cal diet is going to put him into starvation mode, which is going to be very detrimental to his health and weight loss. He'll be eating through whatever muscle he has left.

You are right about one thing, it does not make sense.
I would guess his body needs about 2000 calories to keep his weight stationary.
Ingesting 5000 calories more per day for a month would have him gaining about 30lbs a month...lol.

Yeah, if his calorie counts are correct, anything near 2000 is going to be starvation mode. Obviously, he has a faster metabolism that requires his maintenance calorie level to be well above 2000 unless he was previously gaining 1 lb/day.
 
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I understand how 6' 170lbs can be fat. But you aren't overweight.
I have a cheapo weight bench at home I use all the time. $50 from walmart. Comes with some weights.
Birthday/Christmas, ask for one. Until then, continue eating around 1500 calories per day.
Alot of the 10lbs you have lost is probably water weight.

Until you can get weights I would do everything you can without them. Push-ups/Crunches/Jump rope...etc..etc..

How many push-ups can you do?
Could you post a pic?

Calories are way too low, especially coming from eating upwards of 7000 calories a day. That's why the OP lost 10 lbs in 10 days and doesn't notice a difference. Over half of that weight lost is muscle. This is called crash dieting. To diet effectively, you want to find your maintenance level of calories (where you neither gain or loose weight) and start lowering your intake slowly until you're loosing 1-2 lbs/week. As other posters have said, probably the best thing to do is enter a weight training program because 6'0", 170 lbs definitely isn't fat. I'm sure he will think his frame looks much better with added muscle.

You can be fat at 6' 170lbs. Maybe not overweight, but you can be fat.

I don't know what his frame looks like, nor do I know his BF%.
1500 calories a day is perfectly fine for the cutting stage of weight loss IMO.
I agree his frame would probably be much better looking with more muscle, but, as stated, I don't know what his frame looks like.
I don't know anything beyond the fact that he claims he has alot of fat on his body and wants to lose it.

I am 5'7" 135lbs. Would you say I am underweight? Overweight? Fat? No muscle? Just right?

The only problem I have with the 1500cal thing is he's saying he was eating close to 7k calories a day and he's only 170lbs. So unless he's getting a lot more exercise then that 2km, or he has an insane metabolism, he should've gained a considerable amount of weight over the time of that diet.

If either of those 2 are true, going to a 1500cal diet is going to put him into starvation mode, which is going to be very detrimental to his health and weight loss. He'll be eating through whatever muscle he has left.

You are right about one thing, it does not make sense.
I would guess his body needs about 2000 calories to keep his weight stationary.
Ingesting 5000 calories more per day for a month would have him gaining about 30lbs a month...lol.

Yeah, if his calorie counts are correct, anything near 2000 is going to be starvation mode. Obviously, he has a faster metabolism that requires his maintenance calorie level to be well above 2000 unless he was previously gaining 1 lb/day.

Something tells me he is wrong about his previous caloric intake.
 
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I understand how 6' 170lbs can be fat. But you aren't overweight.
I have a cheapo weight bench at home I use all the time. $50 from walmart. Comes with some weights.
Birthday/Christmas, ask for one. Until then, continue eating around 1500 calories per day.
Alot of the 10lbs you have lost is probably water weight.

Until you can get weights I would do everything you can without them. Push-ups/Crunches/Jump rope...etc..etc..

How many push-ups can you do?
Could you post a pic?

Calories are way too low, especially coming from eating upwards of 7000 calories a day. That's why the OP lost 10 lbs in 10 days and doesn't notice a difference. Over half of that weight lost is muscle. This is called crash dieting. To diet effectively, you want to find your maintenance level of calories (where you neither gain or loose weight) and start lowering your intake slowly until you're loosing 1-2 lbs/week. As other posters have said, probably the best thing to do is enter a weight training program because 6'0", 170 lbs definitely isn't fat. I'm sure he will think his frame looks much better with added muscle.

You can be fat at 6' 170lbs. Maybe not overweight, but you can be fat.

I don't know what his frame looks like, nor do I know his BF%.
1500 calories a day is perfectly fine for the cutting stage of weight loss IMO.
I agree his frame would probably be much better looking with more muscle, but, as stated, I don't know what his frame looks like.
I don't know anything beyond the fact that he claims he has alot of fat on his body and wants to lose it.

I am 5'7" 135lbs. Would you say I am underweight? Overweight? Fat? No muscle? Just right?

The only problem I have with the 1500cal thing is he's saying he was eating close to 7k calories a day and he's only 170lbs. So unless he's getting a lot more exercise then that 2km, or he has an insane metabolism, he should've gained a considerable amount of weight over the time of that diet.

If either of those 2 are true, going to a 1500cal diet is going to put him into starvation mode, which is going to be very detrimental to his health and weight loss. He'll be eating through whatever muscle he has left.

You are right about one thing, it does not make sense.
I would guess his body needs about 2000 calories to keep his weight stationary.
Ingesting 5000 calories more per day for a month would have him gaining about 30lbs a month...lol.

Yeah, if his calorie counts are correct, anything near 2000 is going to be starvation mode. Obviously, he has a faster metabolism that requires his maintenance calorie level to be well above 2000 unless he was previously gaining 1 lb/day.

Something tells me he is wrong about his previous caloric intake.

I don't know, really.. We ate a lot, and I filled in for a week what I ate.. Maybe the thingie is wrong, but it said that much, anyway.

Well, thanks for the tips. I'll try and get some dumbbells and exercise. I do hate it that you guys are telling me to stop making excuses for myself, but here are the facts:

-I'm in bad shape and health. I'm in near-constant pain because of my back.
-I live in a really bad neighborhood. It's not that I wouldn't jog, it's that doing so will likely result in getting myself killed.
-I'm/we're not doing so good on the financial side of things, so spending a lot of money (and $/?50 is a lot, IMO) isn't something I really wanna do.
-I will continue/start again with doing exercises like push-ups, pull-ups and sit-ups.

What number of push/pull/sit-ups would be good for building some muscle?

(Oh, and I won't post pics, not because it'd probably get me banned, but more so because I don't feel comfortable posting pics of my face, let alone my naked (upper) body.)
 
go ask a doctor but, if i must say something: push-ups, sit-ups, and find a form of cardio. Stop drinking whole milk. You do not need weights unless you want to be buff. Once you find a suitable cardio routine you will have to start eating more carbs for energy. Take a good vitamin supplement. Eat steamed veggies: rice, asparagus, etc. Have some form of lean meat for two meals a day(chicken is good for this-assuming it is prepared properly-boiled, grilled, etc.). Do not eat huge portions, moderately sized (towards the small end)ones work best. Do not spend more than 2-3 hours a day on a comp or in front of a TV during your free hours(away from school and free of other responsibilities). You burn more calories sleeping than watching TV. Get eight hours of complete rest each night. Your brain is one of your largest calorie spenders; put your brain to work! Read if not for school then for personal betterment; pick up something challenging, not CHICA CHICA BOOM BOOM or SEE SPOT RUN. NO SODAS or, consume sodas sparingly. Stay away from anything fried in anything but vegetable oil. Do more chores if you can, they have an effect on weight (if you do not do any and are a lazy ass). Stretch properly before you do anything!!! This will help you stay limber to help avoid your back problems. Since you are worried about back spasms have a banana a day at breakfast or w/e, they help prevent spasms
 
Originally posted by: Estrella
go ask a doctor but, if i must say something: push-ups, sit-ups, and find a form of cardio. Stop drinking whole milk. You do not need weights unless you want to be buff. Once you find a suitable cardio routine you will have to start eating more carbs for energy. Take a good vitamin supplement. Eat steamed veggies: rice, asparagus, etc. Have some form of lean meat for two meals a day(chicken is good for this-assuming it is prepared properly-boiled, grilled, etc.). Do not eat huge portions, moderately sized (towards the small end)ones work best. Do not spend more than 2-3 hours a day on a comp or in front of a TV during your free hours(away from school and free of other responsibilities). You burn more calories sleeping than watching TV. Get eight hours of complete rest each night. Your brain is one of your largest calorie spenders; put your brain to work! Read if not for school then for personal betterment; pick up something challenging, not CHICA CHICA BOOM BOOM or SEE SPOT RUN. NO SODAS or, consume sodas sparingly. Stay away from anything fried in anything but vegetable oil. Do more chores if you can, they have an effect on weight (if you do not do any and are a lazy ass). Stretch properly before you do anything!!! This will help you stay limber to help avoid your back problems. Since you are worried about back spasms have a banana a day at breakfast or w/e, they help prevent spasms

Wow, sound advice! Thanks a lot, I'll use it all.

What's a good number of push/pull/sit-ups to start with, and what's a good form of cardio that doesn't require expensive equipment or going outside? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbs
while exercising does you body burn muscles as well as fat??? sorry for hijacking your thread if that's what i am doing??

If exercising would burn muscle, why are there bodybuilders? I don't think exercising burns muscle. IIRC, it shrinks the muscle, which only comes back larger and stronger after a period of rest.
 
Originally posted by: Vegitto
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbs
while exercising does you body burn muscles as well as fat??? sorry for hijacking your thread if that's what i am doing??

If exercising would burn muscle, why are there bodybuilders? I don't think exercising burns muscle. IIRC, it shrinks the muscle, which only comes back larger and stronger after a period of rest.

Exercising doesn't burn muscle, Cardio burns muscle.
Weight training can strengthen or build muscle.
Cardio burns fat and muscle.
 
Originally posted by: Vegitto
Basically, I'm looking for a sport that's intensive and not too expensive

Most of all, I want it to be fun.

Intensive, not too expensive, won't mess with your back => Elliptical machine FTW

It won't be really fun though.


 
However much you think you can handle and then go from there. As for cardio, I have no idea what to recommend without a machine and considering your other restraints. You really need to go talk to your doctor about what you should be doing to stay in shape or some sort of physical therapist. Hell, go google some health nut forum and post there.

AND!!! When you start do not go full out. Ease into whatever routine you develop.
 
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Vegitto
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbs
while exercising does you body burn muscles as well as fat??? sorry for hijacking your thread if that's what i am doing??

If exercising would burn muscle, why are there bodybuilders? I don't think exercising burns muscle. IIRC, it shrinks the muscle, which only comes back larger and stronger after a period of rest.

Exercising doesn't burn muscle, Cardio burns muscle.
Weight training can strengthen or build muscle.
Cardio burns fat and muscle.

Partially true, cardio only burns muscle when one does not eat or rest properly(down-time not exercising)

 
you know, you can write kcal as Cal (the capital C implies kcal 😉)

6' and 170 cant be that bad.. im 5' 11'' and ~155. at one point while working out i was actually ~165, then i lost all muscle once i stopped 🙁
 
You can also try pilates. You can purchase an excercise ball for pretty cheap and find the excercises online for free. (I don't know sites off the top of my head)
 
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