Originally posted by: termac50
A pre-made on vent with just a slight clue will always beat a pug. It's 10x more fun too. Running solo in bg's will burn out your desire to play, fast.
God, this is so true, termac, and it's probably even worse for Alliance. The fact that you have to wait 20-30 minutes (at the least) to just lose to a team... it's quite disheartening and you know that no matter how good you are... how much you play to win... you can't do anything, because no one else cares. I PUG'd to R10 on my priest and I burnt out after that... I literally couldn't stand logging in anymore, because I was so sick of playing 10-12 hours a day 7 days a week. I read an interesting article on Slashdot about burn out and how it's literally from the lack of timely positive response to hard work put in.
Originally posted by: CKent
I do think the recent buffs to rogues and hunters were part of a low-key approach to making the alliance more powerful, since they have a higher percentage of these classes. The alliance has a longstanding complaint about losing AB/WSG, usually blaming horde racials and/or shamans for it. In reality it's because they suck, but the developers need to keep them happy to keep the $$$ rolling in.
I don't know if I can agree with this... I still kill just as fast as I did 31/8/12 as I do 41/2/8. Rogues are still very easily killable by someone who knows what they're doing. As long as you can catch us out of stealth, we're usually killable.
You need to talk to my druid friend and see how fast she can beat my rogue in a duel. About 4 fricken moves and I'm dead. I only ever caught her in stealth once (4/5 MoD + Shadowmeld vs her 5/5 Feral Instincts + Shadowmeld + Stealth enchant) and I
still lost that duel. I literally said to her after the first duel, "what the hell did you do!?", because I looked at my combat log and I saw nothing that showed where all the damage came from, because literally after the initial attacks and a moonfire, I had like 1200 hp left out of my 3900! Then, she'll just drop to bear and has 12000 armor, which makes my attacks utterly useless (bar using warrior-esque kiting techniques). Then you have the recent nerf to Vanish as it cannot be used to remove Snares when Faerie Fired (before it just removed the snare, but since you had FF, you couldn't stealth).
Originally posted by: Pontifex
i'm twinked too, but i swear, i think some of these guys are like lvl 40+ but somehow changed their level to show 29. guess i'm not twinked enough.
Weren't you the guy who only had gear? As CVSiN mentions below, you literally need the enchants that 80% of level 60 characters don't have to be a good twink. There are twink rogues out there with better enchants than me! (Albeit not by much, maybe +15 agil to gloves instead of my +7
But I still have the ZG Enchants hehe)
Originally posted by: CKent
They win so little at 60, and have such long queue times to farm during, they think nothing of dropping a thousand gold on a twink.
Queues are horridly long for us... but I cope with it by watching a movie or a TV show while queued. Especially since I like to relax (and win), I usually only queue for AV, and AV had an hour queue yesterday :/.
Originally posted by: skace
It is a simply fact that in pickup groups there are a lot of AFK people leaching loss tokens. Basicaly, they write a script to make them jump every once in awhile or something to keep from getting booted from the game, but otherwise they are totally afk and expect to lose. But with each loss comes 1 token and this is especially useful when it comes to the bullshit that is WSG (you can work your ass off just to lose and get 1 token).
I haven't seen this in a long time, simply because blizzard monitors for the usual tools and if you're caught doing it some other way (and trust me, people report it)... you do get suspended
. Repeat offenses gets your account banned, so a lot of people don't want to risk such a thing. I mean, there are times when I'm really busy and get a queue (usually AV), and for a minute or two, I'll just hit up and down on my keyboard every minute or so.
Originally posted by: skace
Oh and level 60 tier3'd gear is about as broken in battlegrounds as level 29 twinks. The reality is that most tier3 geared people don't need anything from battlegrounds, which is why you won't see them there very often. But I talked a rogue friend of mine into playing an AB with me and he was taking on hordes of people with minimal healing. Huge, huge discrepancy. I used to be able to /duel him and win back when I played, but the other day (I just came back to the game) I dueled him and he killed my druid before innitial stun broke. Him in mainly nax gear, me in mainly tier1 gear. So the differences are rather large there, he did earn the boost, but I'd say it kind of makes battlegrounds a gamble.
Seeing people in T3 just makes me want to kill them more, and they usually die pretty easily. I remember seeing some T3 Druid and T3 Warrior from Eredar. They were all pompous trying to beat a group of alliance with excellent healing. Duuuurrrr, I just went up and killed the druid with ease and watched the warrior die from lack of heals. Tier 3 rogues... die pretty quickly too. The difference between their T3 setup and my T1/T2 setup, is that my gear's been specifically tailored to fit my build. I'm going to feel bad when I have to finally give it up when the expansion comes out.
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