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WOW! Night vision scopes are incredible

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spidey07

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I have a great horned owl in my back yard, hear him every night. I can never really tell where he is just a general area from his hooting. Only hear him/them (male and female back and forth) at night and it's pitch black. I was fortunate to get a night vision eye piece to play with. No magnification, just "see in the dark". Even this was AMAZING!!

60-90 yards away (where I hear him hooting and even much more) it was like daylight, I could watch the tree limbs, see various nests and adjust the contrast to see about as good as daylight in pitch black..

Any night vision experts want to chime in? This is freaking amazing.
 
Well, you really gave us no information. Is this Gen 3+ shit we are talking about here or what?
Cuz if you just used some cheap ass gen 2 crap, you dont even know what you're talking about.
 
Try strapping some NVGs onto your head for 8+ hours a night and walking through the woods, the novelty wears off real quick.
 
shortylickens said:
Well, you really gave us no information. Is this Gen 3+ shit we are talking about here or what?
Cuz if you just used some cheap ass gen 2 crap, you dont even know what you're talking about.
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Hell, I don't know what I have in my hands, that's why I'm posting. This shit is incredible. It's small, weighs maybe 12 ounces, is compact and isn't more than 4" long and 2.5" diameter. Manual focus and aperature, and I can easily see 100+ meters in pure darkness.
 
jtusa said:
Try strapping some NVGs onto your head for 8+ hours a night and walking through the woods, the novelty wears off real quick.
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Then have your buddy flash his BIC lighter in your face...
I have a cheap night vision monocular in my BOB. Now I need a hand held HAM radio.
 
jtusa said:
Try strapping some NVGs onto your head for 8+ hours a night and walking through the woods, the novelty wears off real quick.
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That seems to be the biggest complaint, no depth perception. This is just a monocle/spotting and I have no experience with it.
 
spidey07 said:
That seems to be the biggest complaint, no depth perception. This is just a monocle/spotting and I have no experience with it.
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Takes getting used to for sure. Watching a group of dudes that are trying to be stealthy crash into tree branches and trip in every little hole is pretty comedic, until it's you falling over, haha.
 
jtusa said:
Takes getting used to for sure. Watching a group of dudes that are trying to be stealthy crash into tree branches and trip in every little hole is pretty comedic, until it's you falling over, haha.
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When I was in Germany, we rode in M113s. The tankers we supported were in M1s. We couldn't keep up and at night, it was even harder to see them.
Only NCOs had night vision. So I'd be out the cupola with my nv trying to keep the tanks in sight. It was hard as hell because every 6" pothole looked like a deep trench.

When we did night time escape and evasion, we'd sit with our backs to trees wearing our nv and watching everyone trip over and run into everything. Good times.
 
I think you meant NV sight.

Also, yeah, depth perception does out the window if you have a set. The monocle is a little better but still not great.
 
jtusa said:
Takes getting used to for sure. Watching a group of dudes that are trying to be stealthy crash into tree branches and trip in every little hole is pretty comedic, until it's you falling over, haha.
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That's where the PVS-14 monocle kick ass. NCO's in my unit had these, and with one in dark one in NVG's you had really good depth perception as well as good night vision.
 
TallBill said:
Including my truck, I was signed for and in charge of well over a half million dollar's of equipment for my 3 man team.
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Truth. I lowball my team leaders on their NCOER by saying that they're responsible for only $250k per team, but that's here stateside in an Army Reserve unit.

Also, agree on PVS-14s. I was taught to place over non-dominant eye and keep both eyes open. Your brain will merge the NV eye input with the non-NV eye input to create a complete image.

Combine PVS-14 monocle with PEQ-15 I/R laser sight and you can shoot and move with laser accuracy after a bit of practice.
 
MarkXIX said:
Truth. I lowball my team leaders on their NCOER by saying that they're responsible for only $250k per team, but that's here stateside in an Army Reserve unit.

Also, agree on PVS-14s. I was taught to place over non-dominant eye and keep both eyes open. Your brain will merge the NV eye input with the non-NV eye input to create a complete image.

Combine PVS-14 monocle with PEQ-15 I/R laser sight and you can shoot and move with laser accuracy after a bit of practice.
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No doubt, its great technology. We had the PEQ-15's as well. And M68's. Way to many gadgets I felt.
 
TallBill said:
No doubt, its great technology. We had the PEQ-15's as well. And M68's. Way to many gadgets I felt.
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Agree on too many gadgets, but they can all be effective if you practice with them as much as you can.

As a commander myself, I've run into too many Soldiers who say that their previous leadership denied them strapping on all that stuff and putting it to use in training for fear that it would get broke, lost, or otherwise destroyed.

My philosophy has always been that all the shit is built to MILSPEC standards and if it can't hold up, we should find out and tell somebody. Losing shit is easy to solve, make 'em sign for it when they take it and charge them for it if they can't find it.
 
MarkXIX said:
Agree on too many gadgets, but they can all be effective if you practice with them as much as you can.

As a commander myself, I've run into too many Soldiers who say that their previous leadership denied them strapping on all that stuff and putting it to use in training for fear that it would get broke, lost, or otherwise destroyed.

My philosophy has always been that all the shit is built to MILSPEC standards and if it can't hold up, we should find out and tell somebody. Losing shit is easy to solve, make 'em sign for it when they take it and charge them for it if they can't find it.
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550 cord the shit out of everything. We trained with all of our equipment. We actually qualified with the m68's which was interesting. I wanted to smack anyone that failed to qualify.

I guess I lucked out and had good weapons knowledge and I was comptetent so I ALWAYS ended up as a safety or coach for every single weapons range, so my weapons knowledge was ever increasing as well.
 
TallBill said:
Including my truck, I was signed for and in charge of well over a half million dollar's of equipment for my 3 man team.
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I thought that was funny about after military life.
In the Army, I was an E5 in a E6 slot. I had a M113, an M60, an M16 and 4 Forward Observers with their weapons. I was responsible for planning artillery fire to cover the Fulda Gap, which was the most likely avenue of approach for Warsaw pact nations. That included a big, thick book of battle plans and fire missions.
When I got out of the army and started a new job, it was assumed that I was just a dumb ass with no experience because I was the new guy.
 
oldsmoboat said:
I thought that was funny about after military life.
In the Army, I was an E5 in a E6 slot. I had a M113, an M60, an M16 and 4 Forward Observers with their weapons. I was responsible for planning artillery fire to cover the Fulda Gap, which was the most likely avenue of approach for Warsaw pact nations. That included a big, thick book of battle plans and fire missions.
When I got out of the army and started a new job, it was assumed that I was just a dumb ass with no experience because I was the new guy.
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Haha, I'm looking forward to this when I finally part ways with the military. I got my degree and worked corporate IT for a few years before I got a hair up my ass and enlisted. Transitioning back to civilian work after the Army should be a hoot.
 
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