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Wow, it seems like I don't need a woman to make babies....
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AreaCode707
Lifer
Let me show you the fallacy of your argument. What you're saying is exactly parallel to this.
If you have a heterosexual couple, and a 14/15 year old daughter... I mean, come on, what do you think is going to happen?
Since the man in the couple is straight, what would keep him from enticing the girl?
There is NO difference between those arguments - and you can see that my version of your argument isn't logical, right?
what keeps a father from molesting his 15 or 16 year old daughter?
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
*sits and observes leinadM slamming into Fausto1's door*
BAM.... BAM!!..... BAM!!!!!!!
It's almost painful to watch.
shot down by facts and logical arguments...what will he do now?
Actually I'm trying to eat some lunch 😀 I've been in way to many fourm debates. There's no point to them , really. you can?t convince anyone one anything. Forget everything else that I said. This is my point: I believe that a man and woman is meant to raise a child; therefor, two gays raising them simply isn't a good thing. There.
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
I've been convinced to change my opinion after reading some of the facts some people have posted here during different ATOT debates. If someone's opinion differs from my own on a topic I'm passionate about, I'll take their viewpoint into consideration, do the research, and see if there is validity to it.
If you believe 1+2 = 4 and someone proves you otherwise with research/facts/statistics/etc., I guess you can still believe that 1+2 = 4, but........
AreaCode707
Lifer
Lesson 2: you walked RIGHT into that one. You should have stuck with your original response and not let them introduce another factor into a discussion you were already taking a beating on.
ILikeStuff
Senior member
ditto,
leinadM,
I agree that two gaymen should not raise children, but you, sir, are an idiot.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
since leinandm likes taking the bible literally, here's some more 😛
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind ... nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"[The Jews] both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets,and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men." 1 Thessalonians 2:15
"Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell
Men are worth more than women - Leviticus 27:1-7 actually provides dollar comparisons!
"Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to
offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach:
a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is
brokenfooted [sic] , brokenhanded [sic], Or crookbackt [sic], or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in
his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the
seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a
blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God."
Leviticus 21:17-21
Men aren't allowed to trim their beards or shave their heads (Leviticus 21:5)
Unisex clothing like pants for women and blouses for men is an abomination unto the Lord... "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God" (Deuteronomy 22:5)
God prohibits clothing made of more than one type of fabric... "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee" (Leviticus 19:19).
Jesus said that the sole reason God created women in the first place was to provide company and service to men (1 Corinthians 11:9)
"If a man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also he cannot be my disciple" - Jesus in Luke 14:26
Matthew 13:10-14 says that Jesus doesn't want everyone to understand what he's saying, so he speaks in parables to his disciples and most of the rest will go to hell. According to Revelation, only 144,000 souls can enter heaven (it probably sounded like a bigger number at the time than it does now...)
"When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, and seeth among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; and she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and remain in thine house . . . And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her" (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)
"If a man also lieth with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)
Premarital sex is punished by burning the woman alive according to Leviticus 21:9
Leviticus 25:44 tells Jews to enslave surrounding tribes
"And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money" (Exodus 21:20-21).
Exodus 21:7-10 says men can sell their daughters into slavery
Jews, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists and everyone else who is not Christian will all go to hell "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18)
"Censuses are immoral - and God killed 70,000 innocent counted Jews to punish David for counting them... "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel, And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beersheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it. . . . And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel. . . . So the Lord sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men" (1 Chronicles 21:1-14).
God killed every living thing in Soddom and Gomorrah for engaging homosexual acts in Genesis 19:24-25
Romans 14:2 says vegetarians are heathens!
"All non-marital sex ensures an eternity in flames" Jude 1:7
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind ... nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"[The Jews] both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets,and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men." 1 Thessalonians 2:15
"Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell
Men are worth more than women - Leviticus 27:1-7 actually provides dollar comparisons!
"Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to
offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach:
a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is
brokenfooted [sic] , brokenhanded [sic], Or crookbackt [sic], or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in
his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the
seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a
blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God."
Leviticus 21:17-21
Men aren't allowed to trim their beards or shave their heads (Leviticus 21:5)
Unisex clothing like pants for women and blouses for men is an abomination unto the Lord... "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God" (Deuteronomy 22:5)
God prohibits clothing made of more than one type of fabric... "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee" (Leviticus 19:19).
Jesus said that the sole reason God created women in the first place was to provide company and service to men (1 Corinthians 11:9)
"If a man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also he cannot be my disciple" - Jesus in Luke 14:26
Matthew 13:10-14 says that Jesus doesn't want everyone to understand what he's saying, so he speaks in parables to his disciples and most of the rest will go to hell. According to Revelation, only 144,000 souls can enter heaven (it probably sounded like a bigger number at the time than it does now...)
"When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, and seeth among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; and she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and remain in thine house . . . And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her" (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)
"If a man also lieth with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)
Premarital sex is punished by burning the woman alive according to Leviticus 21:9
Leviticus 25:44 tells Jews to enslave surrounding tribes
"And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money" (Exodus 21:20-21).
Exodus 21:7-10 says men can sell their daughters into slavery
Jews, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists and everyone else who is not Christian will all go to hell "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18)
"Censuses are immoral - and God killed 70,000 innocent counted Jews to punish David for counting them... "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel, And David said to Joab and to the rulers of the people, Go, number Israel from Beersheba even to Dan; and bring the number of them to me, that I may know it. . . . And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel. . . . So the Lord sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men" (1 Chronicles 21:1-14).
God killed every living thing in Soddom and Gomorrah for engaging homosexual acts in Genesis 19:24-25
Romans 14:2 says vegetarians are heathens!
"All non-marital sex ensures an eternity in flames" Jude 1:7
AreaCode707
Lifer
I guess you can sit and talk to a wall and say you won the debate, but it didn't get you anywhere. Likewise, you can express your opinion to these folks and you haven't succeeded in doing anything but undermining their view of your ability to use logic. You're not taking a beating for saying that a child is better off being raised by a heterosexual couple, you're taking a beating in that you kept insisting other things against the evidence presented, and now you've achieved a reputation that will allow these people to simply write you off in the future and not listen to any of your opinions. Don't further it by introducing a factor that you *know* you won't be able to have a rational discussion about right now. You need to rebuild your reputation first so they'll at least read what you have to say without automatically writing you off as a lunatic.
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