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Wow, imagine that. RNC protests turn violent........

Jmman

Diamond Member
Well, that didn't take long. And you wonder why the police are doing everything they can to infiltrate these groups and nip their plans in the bud.......

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I am sure that Gandhi and MLK would be proud........:disgust::roll:

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Anarchists, they hate everything.

From the article at the OP's link:

Some turn violent in march to GOP convention

AMY FORLITI ASSOCIATED PRESS
Originally published 03:35 p.m., September 1, 2008, updated 03:15 p.m., September 1, 2008

ST. PAUL, MINN. (AP) - Protesters smashed windows, punctured car tires and threw bottles Monday during an anti-war march to the site of the Republican National Convention. Police used pepper spray in confrontations with demonstrators and arrested five.

Instead of the single coherent march that organizers had hoped for, fringe groups of anarchists and others wrought havoc along the streets between the state Capitol and the Xcel Energy Center where the convention was taking place.

Hmmm... I wonder if someone from a < cough > "credible" source like the "Washington Times" bothered to check their papers to see if they had official Anarchist membership cards. :laugh:

Oh... Wait...

Police estimates of the crowd shifted during the event before settling on 8,000 to 10,000. The crowd was clearly in the thousands, many of them marching peacefully.

Five arrests among thousands... That really speaks of massive evil among all those who were there to protest. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Anarchists, they hate everything.

From the article at the OP's link:

Some turn violent in march to GOP convention

AMY FORLITI ASSOCIATED PRESS
Originally published 03:35 p.m., September 1, 2008, updated 03:15 p.m., September 1, 2008

ST. PAUL, MINN. (AP) - Protesters smashed windows, punctured car tires and threw bottles Monday during an anti-war march to the site of the Republican National Convention. Police used pepper spray in confrontations with demonstrators and arrested five.

Instead of the single coherent march that organizers had hoped for, fringe groups of anarchists and others wrought havoc along the streets between the state Capitol and the Xcel Energy Center where the convention was taking place.

Hmmm... I wonder if someone from a < cough > "credible" source like the "Washington Times" bothered to check their papers to see if they had official Anarchist membership cards. :laugh:

Oh... Wait...

Police estimates of the crowd shifted during the event before settling on 8,000 to 10,000. The crowd was clearly in the thousands, many of them marching peacefully.

Five arrests among thousands... That really speaks of massive evil among all those who were there to protest. :roll:

agreed - you're only evil if you get arrested for it. the pepper spray was for the good people. that's why the capture rate for murderers and rapists is 100%.
 
Originally posted by: Jmman
Well, that didn't take long. And you wonder why the police are doing everything they can to infiltrate these groups and nip their plans in the bud.......

Text

I am sure that Gandhi and MLK would be proud........:disgust::roll:

No, I don't wonder why they do that. I wonder why illogic is so prevalent among people like you, who say things like how the way to address this isn't through appropriate defensive measures while respecting the rights of citizens, but instead rush to imply that all protest groups should be treated as violent and any means the police like to use against oens who have done no wrong, are fine.
 
Can you just feel the desperation coming from the Republicans? ... 😛

You mean the RNC is holding a convention?

Will Bush or Cheney speak?

Will not only one ... but TWO hurricanes hit the United States this week?

How will they succeed in spinning the Republican 'brand' ?
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Jmman
Well, that didn't take long. And you wonder why the police are doing everything they can to infiltrate these groups and nip their plans in the bud.......

Text

I am sure that Gandhi and MLK would be proud........:disgust::roll:

No, I don't wonder why they do that. I wonder why illogic is so prevalent among people like you, who say things like how the way to address this isn't through appropriate defensive measures while respecting the rights of citizens, but instead rush to imply that all protest groups should be treated as violent and any means the police like to use against oens who have done no wrong, are fine.

Can you fit any more words into my mouth? I am all for respecting the rights of non-violent peaceful protestors, but I think they should throw the book at the jackasses who feel the need to damage property just to get on the news......
 
Do you also approve of ""throwing the book at the jackasses who feel the need to"" post troll threads and obfuscate, manipulate and misdirect attention out of desperation ?
 
Originally posted by: Jmman
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Jmman
Well, that didn't take long. And you wonder why the police are doing everything they can to infiltrate these groups and nip their plans in the bud.......

Text

I am sure that Gandhi and MLK would be proud........:disgust::roll:

No, I don't wonder why they do that. I wonder why illogic is so prevalent among people like you, who say things like how the way to address this isn't through appropriate defensive measures while respecting the rights of citizens, but instead rush to imply that all protest groups should be treated as violent and any means the police like to use against oens who have done no wrong, are fine.

Can you fit any more words into my mouth? I am all for respecting the rights of non-violent peaceful protestors, but I think they should throw the book at the jackasses who feel the need to damage property just to get on the news......

No words in your mouth - the police have been widely infiltrating protest groups who have done nothing wrong, like an anti-war group of little old ladies near where I live, and you posted "And you wonder why the police are doing everything they can to infiltrate these groups" in a broad statement without any differentiation with those groups who have done nothing wrong but are infiltrated, the ones that people obect to being infiltrated.

Defending infiltrating them is a far cry from arresting them after violence occurs.

 
Infiltration is bad enough but police on both sides of the border feel the need to also start a riot by planting cops to actually do it. Now I don't know for a fact that this is the case in instances that are occurring now but if it is then it's par for the course.
 
Originally posted by: Kuragami
Infiltration is bad enough but police on both sides of the border feel the need to also start a riot by planting cops to actually do it. Now I don't know for a fact that this is the case in instances that are occurring now but if it is then it's par for the course.

Policie infiltration makes all kinds of mischief easy.

Remember how Hitler seized power - with his party burning the parliment and claiming it was a 9/11 type attack by the communists (who were charged and amazingly aquitted).

When the US and right-wing Venezuelans wanted to remove the elected president of Venezuela, they did it by using infiltrated protestor groups and violence for a pretext.

A great way to discredit protestors is for infiltrators to act violently/badly.

People are going to remember "members of group X were violent" a lot more than they'll look into the role of authorities in the violence.

It gets absurd, to the point like under J. Edgar Hoover when there seemed like two undercover agents for every actual member in left-wing groups, including the leadership.
 
Some people think that everything the police or government do is correct and justified.
Naive and dangerous thinking.
 
Originally posted by: db
Some people think that everything the police or government do is correct and justified.
Naive and dangerous thinking.


Some people think that everything the police do is incorrect and unjustified.
Also naive and dangerous thinking.


And just for the record, we are up to 80 arrests including evidently the assault of an 80 year old delegate. I am sure that the wackos can do better though. How many arrests will we see this week? 1000?
 
"...RNC protests turn violent........"


That headline says that many protests turned violent.
Absolutely not true. FIVE people arrested at ONE march!

Why would the OP want to misleadt?
 
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Do you also approve of ""throwing the book at the jackasses who feel the need to"" post troll threads and obfuscate, manipulate and misdirect attention out of desperation ?

The Sarah Palin thread is ^
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Originally posted by: Jmman


And just for the record, we are up to 80 arrests including evidently the assault of an 80 year old delegate. I am sure that the wackos can do better though. How many arrests will we see this week? 1000?

Police are arresting people simply for taking pictures of the police arresting people, even
someone taking video from their own yard to an "arrest" across the street.

They are also "detaining" (not arresting) and holding for 1 1/2 to 5 days,
simply to disrupt the plans of peaceful groups before they can even get started.
And breaking into homes without a warrant.
 
Originally posted by: db
Originally posted by: Jmman
And just for the record, we are up to 80 arrests including evidently the assault of an 80 year old delegate. I am sure that the wackos can do better though. How many arrests will we see this week? 1000?
Police are arresting people simply for taking pictures of the police arresting people, even
someone taking video from their own yard to an "arrest" across the street.
They are also "detaining" (not arresting) and holding for 1 1/2 to 5 days,
simply to disrupt the plans of peaceful groups before they can even get started.
And breaking into homes without a warrant.
Do you have a link?
 
Gee, five people got arrested after a swat of pigs invaded several dozen homes and illegally detained civilians? I'm surprised it wasn't more. I would've been pissed as hell at the gang of pigs terrorizing citizens.

Things already turned violent when officers ILLEGALLY RAIDED HOMES with AUTOMATIC RIFLES. Think about this for a second. What would you say if a group raided a police head quarters with automatic rifles? Would you call them terrorists? Now put a badge on that group of people and make the head quarters a normal house.

I'm disgusted with you people. Our freedom is being attacked and you're bitching about civil disobedience? :disgust:
 
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Do you have a link?

I guess you're going to have to be more specific, like "do you have a link not to a tinfoil-hat wearing leftist nutjob website?".

Oh, and anyone referring to police officers as "pigs" immediately loses all credibility. Officers are like every other group in society, some are scum, most are not. If you're willing to describe the whole group as "pigs", you don't have credibility.
 
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Anarchists, they hate everything.

From the article at the OP's link:

Some turn violent in march to GOP convention

AMY FORLITI ASSOCIATED PRESS
Originally published 03:35 p.m., September 1, 2008, updated 03:15 p.m., September 1, 2008

ST. PAUL, MINN. (AP) - Protesters smashed windows, punctured car tires and threw bottles Monday during an anti-war march to the site of the Republican National Convention. Police used pepper spray in confrontations with demonstrators and arrested five.

Instead of the single coherent march that organizers had hoped for, fringe groups of anarchists and others wrought havoc along the streets between the state Capitol and the Xcel Energy Center where the convention was taking place.

Hmmm... I wonder if someone from a < cough > "credible" source like the "Washington Times" bothered to check their papers to see if they had official Anarchist membership cards. :laugh:

Oh... Wait...

Police estimates of the crowd shifted during the event before settling on 8,000 to 10,000. The crowd was clearly in the thousands, many of them marching peacefully.

Five arrests among thousands... That really speaks of massive evil among all those who were there to protest. :roll:

Just think if we required all threads to only have material posted from credible sources. Sounds like we would have a lot less threads to read here once your messiah's faithfull were no longer able to post their daily reading notes from moveon and dailykos.
 
Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Harvey

Police estimates of the crowd shifted during the event before settling on 8,000 to 10,000. The crowd was clearly in the thousands, many of them marching peacefully.

Five arrests among thousands... That really speaks of massive evil among all those who were there to protest. :roll:

Just think if we required all threads to only have material posted from credible sources. Sounds like we would have a lot less threads to read here once your messiah's faithfull were no longer able to post their daily reading notes from moveon and dailykos.

Moveon and dailykos??? 😕

Aww... The poor, reading-challenged, mindless troll child couldn't comprehend my reference to the source for my comment, "From the article at the OP's link..." :laugh:
 
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