Wow I just found out that Shell V-Power contains no ethanol

[DVad3r]

Awesome! I don't know how I didn't know this, I usually know pretty much everything, that's how powerful I am. Since this past week I have been filling up there only. If you're paying for gas why not get gas right?



Btw my car/bike seem to get a little better mileage.

If 10 % ethanol is mandatory in the US than the V-Power is only good here in Canada.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Really.....

May have to give shell a go. My car seems to like BP gas more than say speedway or marathon. Haven't tried shell yet (only one station in the area that I'm aware of).

 

[Ronstang]

So what are they using to get the octane boost? I thought MTBE was replaced by Ehtanol for octane blending and thus V-Power should have the most ethanol per volume of the range of blends. Getting better mileage with premium gas is usually due to the engine being able to run the most timing advance, if applicable.

 

[DVad3r]

There is a sticker on every pump here that says:

Bronze: May contain up to 10 % ethanol
Silver: May contain up to 5 % ethanol
V-Power: Contains no ethanol

I found this out from another forum btw. Perhaps maybe this is just in Canada and not US? Regardless it's good news for me

 

[jlee]

The last time I ran V-Power, my car tripped into fuel cut / no boost mode and I had to reset it..haven't used it since. I'll have to check again.

 

[angry hampster]

I miss being able to get V-Power. It was the only 93 octane in town. I moved a few years ago and the best I can get now is 91. The difference is only slight, but my motorcycle has better throttle response with 93.

 

[LTC8K6]

IIRC, 10% ethanol is mandatory in the US.

The corn lobby is pushing to mandate 15%...

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
IIRC, 10% ethanol is mandatory in the US.

The corn lobby is pushing to mandate 15%...

Yea I figured that. At the US pumps it always says "Contains 10 % ethanol".

Here in Ontario it says "May contain up to so and so % ethanol".

 

[fenrir]

Here in Wisconsin the 93 octane Shell V-power does not contain ethanol. They have stickers on the pumps stating it.

 

[Titan]

My I6 4.0L Jeep only runs V-power or other 93 when I can't get it. Is there a place in VT where I can find the low ethanol stuff?

Yes, I get better MPG than 87 or 89

 

[Knavish]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
IIRC, 10% ethanol is mandatory in the US.

The corn lobby is pushing to mandate 15%...

Yea I figured that. At the US pumps it always says "Contains 10 % ethanol".

Here in Ontario it says "May contain up to so and so % ethanol".

I'm pretty sure it depends on the area. When I drive near Washington DC, I see that 10% sticker on every pump. In NC I don't think I've ever seen it. It may be related to EPA air quality measurements in the area.

I'll see if wikipedia has anything to say on this...

In 2007 Portland, Oregon, became the first city in the United States to require all gasoline sold within city limits to contain at least 10% ethanol.[74][75] As of January 2008, three states ? Missouri, Minnesota, and Hawaii ? require ethanol to be blended with gasoline motor fuel. Many cities also require ethanol blends due to non-attainment of federal air quality goals.[76]

So if you're in the US and you have to use 10% ethanol gas, it's because you live in a dirty polluted city , Missouri, Minnesota, or Hawaii.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
IIRC, 10% ethanol is mandatory in the US.

The corn lobby is pushing to mandate 15%...

Not the entire country, no, here only mid-grade is 10% ethanol, 87/91 are not.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, you can still find ethanol free fuel, but the EPA is making it difficult to do so, and it gets more difficult each year. In theory, you can sell ethanol free fuel, but in practice your options are limited. EPA will probably allow E15 soon, which will cause trouble...


Are all refiners required to produce renewable fuel blends?
Most refiners, blenders, and importers are required to use a minimum volume of renewable fuel each year beginning Sept. 1, 2007, and each year thereafter. Alternatively, they must buy credits from other companies that choose to use more than their required minimum volume. That minimum volume is determined as a percentage of the total volume of motor-vehicle fuel a company produces or imports, and will increase every year.
Small refiners are exempt through 2010. All gasoline producers in Alaska and U.S. territories are exempt indefinitely. Hawaii, previously granted an exemption, is opting into the program effective Jan. 1, 2008.
Where can I purchase renewable fuel blends?
EPA does not require service stations or truck stops to sell renewable fuel blends. Therefore, it is possible that a particular renewable fuel blend won?t be available in some areas. If you have questions about renewable fuel content or availability, ask your local retailer.

 

[LTC8K6]

How will I know which pump is dispensing renewable fuel blends?
EPA does not require service stations or truck stops to label the pumps that dispense renewable fuel blends. Some states, however, require that pumps dispensing renewable fuel blends be labeled.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Just brimmed with a tank of V power today. POWA!