Wow... fvckin ridiculous: Sperm donor must pay child support

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waggy

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
comparing this to legal sperm donation programs is ludicrous.

to imply that this ruling sets a precedence for going after sperm donors with all the proper papers and signatures borders on malpractice.

htf can you compare a stupid moron that can't even put anything down on paper and signed to legitimate sperm/egg donor programs?

I don't feel sorry for the guy. He knew what he was doing. IF it was true that they had this agreement then why didnt he have it in writing? it is to important to NOT do.

Not that having it in writing would have saved him. i seem to remember some guy doing that and getting nailed anyway.

child support is out of control. i remember reading on a case where a guy was NOT the father getting nailed with it. He did help raise th child for like a year when the mother sued him for it. sheesh.
 

Wuffsunie

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Wow, that b!tch suckered him just a lot! Perfect play! A rug rat to placate her biological clock, and a free income source to placate her spending habits. Well done.

And shows why you can't do anything with anyone else nowadays unless you have them sign some kind of legal document. :thumbsdown:
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Wow, that b!tch suckered him just a lot! Perfect play! A rug rat to placate her biological clock, and a free income source to placate her spending habits. Well done.

And shows why you can't do anything with anyone else nowadays unless you have them sign some kind of legal document. :thumbsdown:

yeah heaven forbid that you be able to have a child and just claim it was a sperm donation and get away with it.

I mean the guy wouldnt lie about something like this to get out of paying now would he? nope. nobody ever has done that.

And the B!tch will spend the money on useless things like diapers, formul, clothes, toys etc. damn her for makeing him pay for his mistake/responsbility.
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Wow, that b!tch suckered him just a lot! Perfect play! A rug rat to placate her biological clock, and a free income source to placate her spending habits. Well done.

And shows why you can't do anything with anyone else nowadays unless you have them sign some kind of legal document. :thumbsdown:
yeah heaven forbid that you be able to have a child and just claim it was a sperm donation and get away with it.

I mean the guy wouldnt lie about something like this to get out of paying now would he? nope. nobody ever has done that.

And the B!tch will spend the money on useless things like diapers, formul, clothes, toys etc. damn her for makeing him pay for his mistake/responsbility.
Yeah, I can see that side of it... but it might be a wee bit more credible if the sperm donation was done "the old fashioned way" as StormRider put it. From what the whole term "sperm donation" implies, this was a medical procedure with all the overhead involved. This was not some hump and dump on the man's part, this was something the woman had planned out.
 

AaronB

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Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Yeah, I can see that side of it... but it might be a wee bit more credible if the sperm donation was done "the old fashioned way" as StormRider put it. From what the whole term "sperm donation" implies, this was a medical procedure with all the overhead involved. This was not some hump and dump on the man's part, this was something the woman had planned out.

You are correct, it was "of in vitro fertilization (IVF)" according to a link posted earlier to the court papers.

However, the appeals court made a good point, the right to be properly supported belongs to the child. Neither parent has the right nor legal authority to change this fact.

It will be interesting to see if this logic is used in more formal cases where the interested parties have written contracts.
 

vi edit

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If you are a man in court against a women, you may as well roll over and die. Women have far too much court favortism.

***Assuming*** that it wasn't just a one stand and there was an actual medical process done for the fertilization, this guy has zero responsibility. I'm sorry, if a woman wants to purposely knock herself up outside of any sort of static relationship with a man, then it is ONLY her that is responsible for financially supporting the kids.

I'm equally sickened by the women that come back 18 years later trying to reclaim the kids they gave up for adoption...AND WIN. I'm sorry, but once you make a choice to give up a kid or knock yourself up without a husband or significant other, it's YOUR problem. Deal with it.
 

sillymofo

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For once in my life, I'm completely speechless. I've seen stupid court rullings before (McDonald vs Coffee, Smoking vs Lung Cancer, presidency, etc....) but this one is taking the cake. Fcuk, how stupid are the fcuking people of this country, how ridiculous are our legal systems? Especially the people that's in power.

In the interest of the child? What fcuking bullshiet excuse is that? Why is that ever any of the guy's responsibility? Did he even get to fcuk her? The guy did a favor, and he's fcuked for life because of it. What about government programs that would help that leeching bitch to support her childs? GGGRRrrrrrrrrrr.rr :| :| :| :| :| :|
 

Yossarian

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this is why I had a legal disclaimer tattooed on my penis. "owner is not responsible for the effects of any potent potables which may erupt."

I'm thinking about adding "objects are larger than they appear."
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: AaronB
However, the appeals court made a good point, the right to be properly supported belongs to the child. Neither parent has the right nor legal authority to change this fact.
Which begs the question of how the mother planned on supporting the kid before the settlement. Right now the child support comes to $18240 a year. Does anyone know if she's still working and what she's making/made?

Really sad for the guy; all the responsibility of a kid, none of the fun of making it.
 

vi edit

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Really sad for the guy; all the responsibility of a kid, none of the fun of making it.

Anyone wanna bet he doesn't get any custody rights either?
 

Mustangrrl

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Custodial parents RARELY are able to frivolously spend child support on themselves, most of their income goes towards basic needs of the child, it's expensive to raise a child. For most absent parents, this is a good deal to just pay some money, I seriously doubt they'd like to be the one to care for the sick kid, change diapers, not be able to go out or on vacation at their leisure, etc., etc....

In this case, if the woman really did ask to be impregnated, she doesn't deserve a dime -- why have kids if you can't afford them? And I think this guy's argument would have been a lot stronger if he hadn't have had a relationship with her in the past, if he had barely known her or had just met her, his story would have been more believable.
 

Veramocor

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He should sue for custody, nothing preventing him from doing so. Since he is now a legally obligated to the child he has every right to do so. HE can be really slimy and argue against her lifestyle to the court. He may just win, that'll teadch the evil bizatch a lesson.
 

Brutuskend

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What a CROCK!

Does this mean if Tomato donates her eggs and the mother dies before any child she has reaches 18, SHE will have to raise the kid?:roll:

What a CROCK!
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
What a CROCK!

Does this mean if Tomato donates her eggs and the mother dies before any child she has reaches 18, SHE will have to raise the kid?:roll:

What a CROCK!

dude that's kind of creepy that you would bring up an old Dezign post like that!
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
What a CROCK!

Does this mean if Tomato donates her eggs and the mother dies before any child she has reaches 18, SHE will have to raise the kid?:roll:

What a CROCK!

dude that's kind of creepy that you would bring up an old Dezign post like that!

What can I say, I'm CREEPY. ;)
 

Lonyo

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This does have serious legal implications.

All sperm donors should therefore be held liable for any children concieved with their sperm, as the ruling is based on the fact that you CANNOT bargain away a childs right to support.
Thereform, saying you will not be responsible for children born from sperm you have donated is NOT legal.

Consequently, all sperm donors should be able to be held accountable, as they cannot waive the right to support a child, even if they are not aware it is being born.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
This does have serious legal implications.

All sperm donors should therefore be held liable for any children concieved with their sperm, as the ruling is based on the fact that you CANNOT bargain away a childs right to support.
Thereform, saying you will not be responsible for children born from sperm you have donated is NOT legal.

Consequently, all sperm donors should be able to be held accountable, as they cannot waive the right to support a child, even if they are not aware it is being born.

Not legal in that state. The only thing with this story was the fact that A) the donor and the receipient knew and dated each other for X length of time - there wasn't any anonymous donors like there usually is, and B) their agreement was verbal - it's hard to prove it even existed, because it's taken off someone's word.
 

Babbles

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I really do not think this is going to create any sort of awesome legal precedent. Just half assed journalism on the part of CNN. . . how suprising.

Anyhow, in a sense the guy got what he deserved for doing something so stupid and to think that the woman and the legal system would abide by a verbal agreement under those particular circumstances.
 

BladeWalker

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People, this has happened before.

I remember listening to Tom Leykis. A fellow called in telling his tale of woe. In his college years he would supplement his income by donoting to various sperm banks. Later two women who got pregnant came after him for money. Despite the sperm bank's promise of anonymity, it folded under a judge's order forcing them to release his identity. It was deemed that the "interest of the child" outweighs any contract the sperm bank has with the man. The man settled out of court with both women (he has never met before) for $350,000 + lawyers fee.

DO NOT EVER DONATE YOUR SPERM.