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xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: her209
I find that users are deathly afraid of "messing up" their computers.

So very true. My last ex-girlfriend absolutely refused to let me touch her computer, let alone fix any problems with it. Her hard drive failed and I offered to replace it with one of my spares. I said I'd come over, install the new drive, and have her back up in running and no time. Apparently, she didn't trust me and decided to call another guy she knew (who worked with computers also) to do the job. That was one of the last straws with her... but I digress.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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astrumi would have been the smart move...along with password there are 100's of common passwords though.

To me resetting a windows password is an easy $50-75. Very common in break ups.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: her209
I find that users are deathly afraid of "messing up" their computers.

Which is funny because they find the most weird ways to do so, while trying not to.

Some people are simply not meant to use computers though. They should work in construction or something... no wait, I don't want to drive on bridges built by these people.

Maybe they should just stay in school forever or something.
I could correlate your poor grasp of English grammar with a lack of intelligence just like you seem to do with computer illiteracy.

English is not my first language. Live with it.
Sorry, that's not a valid excuse. Live with it.
 

tk149

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2002
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In a month, the OP's next thread will be "OMG I hacked a windows password but I didn't know my client brought in her husband's PC 'cuz she wanted his lover's emails to divorce him! Now he's outside my house with a shotgun!"
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Sorry, that's not a valid excuse. Live with it.

And you're a grammar nazi, which is worse than being stupid. Don't you have something better to do?
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: her209
I find that users are deathly afraid of "messing up" their computers.

Which is funny because they find the most weird ways to do so, while trying not to.

Some people are simply not meant to use computers though. They should work in construction or something... no wait, I don't want to drive on bridges built by these people.

Maybe they should just stay in school forever or something.
I could correlate your poor grasp of English grammar with a lack of intelligence just like you seem to do with computer illiteracy.

English is not my first language. Live with it.
Sorry, that's not a valid excuse. Live with it.

Fine, if it really bothers you that much, maybe teach me what I did wrong, and I will make extra sure to be perfect just like you are.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Newbian
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Someone didn't bother reading my carefully prepared memo on commonly-used passwords. Now, then, as I so meticulously pointed out, the four most-used passwords are: love, sex, secret, and...god. So, would your holiness care to change her password?

When saying any line from Hackers you need to post Angelina Jolie boobies from that movie. :|

Hackers??? Sorry, never seen the movie.
 

Newbian

Lifer
Aug 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Newbian
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Someone didn't bother reading my carefully prepared memo on commonly-used passwords. Now, then, as I so meticulously pointed out, the four most-used passwords are: love, sex, secret, and...god. So, would your holiness care to change her password?

When saying any line from Hackers you need to post Angelina Jolie boobies from that movie. :|

Hackers??? Sorry, never seen the movie.

Where do you think that quote came from? ;)
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
That's the problem, I end up doing it for free because it's people I know. If they offer money I just take it though. But if I actually charge, I'll be seen as an ass, as most people expect it free.

I should use my new job as an excuse. "sorry I only do servers now". Probably would not get very far with that unfortunatly. :p

Wait you do this for a living and were contemplating recovery disks for a simple password reset?

You probably shouldn't be charging is right.

 

sswingle

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2000
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I had one similar to this one once. Windows 2000 machine, so the last logged in user came up by default and didn't show what the other users were on the system. I tried password and maybe a couple other ones, before trying the administrator account. Found that the admin account didn't have a password at all.
 

Jeffg010

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Feb 22, 2008
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I look at it this way "stupid people keep me employed" if ever was smart with computers I'd make no money. It is easy money.


Jeff

 

JoeBleed

Golden Member
Jun 27, 2000
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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Why would you do a reinstall to reset the password?

Because she brings him the computer to be worked on for free. (I don?t work for fee for anyone, but that?s the OP?s choice).

But I would have reinstalled anyway, because if she didn?t know the password, she likely didn?t know what else was on there and I wouldn?t want to deal with mystery crap latter either. So easy and less of a hassle to do that and probably solve a lot of other problems in one shot.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: JoeBleed
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Why would you do a reinstall to reset the password?

Because she brings him the computer to be worked on for free. (I don?t work for fee for anyone, but that?s the OP?s choice).

But I would have reinstalled anyway, because if she didn?t know the password, she likely didn?t know what else was on there and I wouldn?t want to deal with mystery crap latter either. So easy and less of a hassle to do that and probably solve a lot of other problems in one shot.

Password reset is 5 mins...reinstall much longer.

Not knowing the password is hardly indicative that they don't know what's on there. Our helpdesk deals with forgotten passwords daily....

After a reinstall when they realize they no longer have baby pictures, software, etc...do you really think you aren't going to be hassled?
 

FallenHero

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Someone didn't bother reading my carefully prepared memo on commonly-used passwords. Now, then, as I so meticulously pointed out, the four most-used passwords are: love, sex, secret, and...god. So, would your holiness care to change her password?

Your user name is perfect for that quote
 

JoeBleed

Golden Member
Jun 27, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Password reset is 5 mins...reinstall much longer.

Not knowing the password is hardly indicative that they don't know what's on there. Our helpdesk deals with forgotten passwords daily....

After a reinstall when they realize they no longer have baby pictures, software, etc...do you really think you aren't going to be hassled?

Redsquirrel said ?A user brings a PC at my house because she wants to use it for her kids and does not know the password?

I take this to mean someone else gave her a computer or she got it from someone else. My not be correct, but if it was, I would reinstall to remove any other possible variables that would pop up latter that she my want free work to correct. With mostly unattended installs and cached updates, it doesn?t take too long. Unless the computer is really slow.

If it had been hers the whole time and had been sitting in a closet, I would still have reinstalled. That being the case, it would be unlikely she would have had any files on there she wanted to keep. But if she did I?d just pull the drive and copy it and then place whatever else she needs back on the reinstalled computer. No worries of her bringing it back because of some other broken software.


Edit: Oh, as for hassled about losing stuff. Any time I reinstall someone?s computer, even with copying their drive contents and holding it for a while, I warn them they will lose everything if they don?t tell me what to save, and most programs are gone unless they have the needed material to reinstall. If they don?t want to lose a program that came with the computer and they don?t have the install material for it, then we can work something out. But it defiantly wouldn?t be free.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: JoeBleed
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Password reset is 5 mins...reinstall much longer.

Not knowing the password is hardly indicative that they don't know what's on there. Our helpdesk deals with forgotten passwords daily....

After a reinstall when they realize they no longer have baby pictures, software, etc...do you really think you aren't going to be hassled?

Redsquirrel said ?A user brings a PC at my house because she wants to use it for her kids and does not know the password?

I take this to mean someone else gave her a computer or she got it from someone else. My not be correct, but if it was, I would reinstall to remove any other possible variables that would pop up latter that she my want free work to correct. With mostly unattended installs and cached updates, it doesn?t take too long. Unless the computer is really slow.

If it had been hers the whole time and had been sitting in a closet, I would still have reinstalled. That being the case, it would be unlikely she would have had any files on there she wanted to keep. But if she did I?d just pull the drive and copy it and then place whatever else she needs back on the reinstalled computer. No worries of her bringing it back because of some other broken software.


Edit: Oh, as for hassled about losing stuff. Any time I reinstall someone?s computer, even with copying their drive contents and holding it for a while, I warn them they will lose everything if they don?t tell me what to save, and most programs are gone unless they have the needed material to reinstall. If they don?t want to lose a program that came with the computer and they don?t have the install material for it, then we can work something out. But it defiantly wouldn?t be free.

I was thinking that too. When I got in it looked fairly clean, but I did not check much. This same lady locked me into a free 6+ month support contract, so I really am scared this will turn into one of those again. Literally once a day she'd call me with questions because of dumb things she did.
 

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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For something that doesn't have to be secure, but it just wants me to enter a password anyway, I use the letter d
so simple , but I'm betting most people wouldn't try it first.
 

Fayd

Diamond Member
Jun 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: her209
I find that users are deathly afraid of "messing up" their computers.

Which is funny because they find the most weird ways to do so, while trying not to.

Some people are simply not meant to use computers though. They should work in construction or something... no wait, I don't want to drive on bridges built by these people.

Maybe they should just stay in school forever or something.
I could correlate your poor grasp of English grammar with a lack of intelligence just like you seem to do with computer illiteracy.

English is not my first language. Live with it.
Sorry, that's not a valid excuse. Live with it.

i can understand what he wrote.

why can't you?