Wow! Dish Network OWNS Uverse..

IamDavid

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I had Dish 7 years ago before switching to cable. I'm now blown away after switching back. We have 5 HDTV's ranging from 52" to 70" in our house and every one of them look amazing now. Crazy I have to have 2 DVR boxes for the house but at least their linked together to allow playing from one to the other.
 

kornphlake

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The only time I've ever had weather related signal loss is when snow built up on the dish, I had to go out with a broom and brush it off. In the PNW we get several hundred days of rain each year and it's never caused a problem with the picture quality. If you're getting signal loss when it rains, your dish probably isn't installed correctly.
 

sourceninja

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I used to lose my dish to any cloud cover. My house just wasn't positioned in a way where we could get a good line of sight to the sky. No worries now though, I'm 100% internet!
 

imagoon

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(directv person) same... rain might cause a blip but normally it was one of those all hell was breaking loose storms and not just drizzle. Also moving the dish up higher on the roof helped me a ton and having the stabilizers (the legs on the HD dish that the older SD dishes didn't have). I have had zero drops outs since I did that.
 

alkemyst

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I love dish when it works. Never for internet though.

In S. Florida, the signal was variable with our summer storms and hurricanes. I tried different mountings and other tricks as well. I finally switched to Cable...you get what you pay for.

Dish was much more inexpensive, but simply not reliable for me.
 

piasabird

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I use Universe Internet technically it is DSL Third Level. They also have an IP product for cable over Internet. Never tried the IP thing for Cable. I get only the Universe Internet. However, they updated their networking and their wireless rounters and increased the speed to double.
 

frowertr

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Agree with the rain comments. My in-laws have Dish and when it rains, it's out. No can do for me being a college football nut. I think I would probably throw my remote through the screen from a drunken rage if my Saturday games go out because of rain outside.
 

juiio

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Agree with the rain comments. My in-laws have Dish and when it rains, it's out. No can do for me being a college football nut. I think I would probably throw my remote through the screen from a drunken rage if my Saturday games go out because of rain outside.

They need to have their dish realigned.
 

Modelworks

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According to Charlie, all the DISH subscribers are rural farms and they don't want channels like AMC, which they are going to drop because those country folk don't like the big city channels.

Dish Network Chairman Charlie Ergen warned analysts in a conference call today that his company will lose some customers — or have trouble attracting new ones — since it dropped AMC, IFC, WEtv, and Sundance in late June. But he says the decision was a “no-brainer” that will pay off for Dish in the long run. “Our customers are not looking at zombies in New York City”, he said referring to AMC’s hit The Walking Dead. “They live on farms and ranches”. Ergen added that he might have renewed AMC, but bucked at the company’s requirement that Dish also carry the other networks. “There hasn’t been a time when anyone in our family has watched one second of those channels”. He was also dismissive of AMC which has acclaimed series including Mad Men and Breaking Bad. “They’re critically acclaimed but not viewed as much by our audience”, he says. “And our customers can go to iTunes and get Mad Men the same time it’s on. We could pay the entire iTunes bill and it would be cheaper” than carrying the AMC Networks channels. Indeed, Ergen says that by not carrying the AMC channels Dish will be “several dollars cheaper than our competition that’s carrying those channels”.
 
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kornphlake

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According to Charlie, all the DISH subscribers are rural farms and they don't want channels like AMC, which they are going to drop because those country folk don't like the big city channels.

I live in a big city and I don't want to pay for channels like AMC, IFC and WEtv. I'd think there would be more sportsman channels included in the basic packages since obviously hillbillies who live in rural farms love to hunt, but there's only one channel in the top 200 package that shows how to live life like a farmer. Obviously Dish is trying to compete on price, with more and more people cancelling dish and cable service and going back to OTA broadcast and some kind of streaming service. I'm no market analyst but it seems like a wise move to drop a few channels and loose a few customers who were likely going to abandon Dish anyway in order to keep the cost low enough for the customers who really only want to watch who's America's next fattest singing dancer. It's only a matter of time until the cost of on-demand services like netflix and hulu skyrocket or services like traditional cable and satellite disappear.
 

ericlp

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I use to have Dish Network. The the correct word your looking for is rain fade. It's not just having your dish aligned. But it also depends on where your at. I think the Sats are located in a gyro-orbit right above the state of NV. So if your have to aim your dish the lower on the horizon the greater rain may affect your signal. Like in Hawaii. I see a lot of people with the small pizza box dish here and ever time it rains your can forget about dish for a few minutes ... Usually tropical rain rain's HARD but nor for vary long.

Anyway... For those experiencing rain fade even tho your got a 90%+ signal the only way to get a better signal is to amplify it. IE, buy a bigger dish. Usually a 1 meter dish will solve the problem, yes, it's more ugly than a smaller dish but will solve your problems.
 

gar655

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Yep DirecTV dish in Hawaii is 48". I've had rain out less than 5 times in over 4 years. Less than the cable goes out around here.
 

piasabird

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I also have an over the air antenna. It is only an indoor/outdoor antenna. I bought it on sale for almost half off. However, I can pick up channels about 20 miles away or so. Some channels come in crystal clear all the time. Others fade in and out a little. However, I only watch it once in a while. I can get a free weather channel also. I dont even carry cable or satelite TV. It just got too expensive.

I really didnt like much of what was broadcast on TV anyway.
 
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sportage

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I too just had dish installed. Just today in fact. I too had dish some 10 years ago and liked it then cause it was the only dvr that had an HD ota antenna (third tuner) that also recorded HD ota.
But times change and back then I got a good deal to switch to my local cable.
Now, my local cable services were going up $120 a month. So I looked into that dish Hopper thingy I keep hearing about.
Loved the idea of the hopper. Prime time auto-recordings.
So with just getting dish today, I am overwhelmed (in a good way).
I love abilities to go overboard with customize settings for any gadget.
Especially anything TV or home theater.
Dish must have listened to end users because their hopper system is unbelievably customizable.
So much so that i can imagine a fairly long learning curve.
Which is good, bottom line.
But... my senior parents could NEVER have this system.
They hate remotes. Even simple remotes.
They would need to adopt a dish tech and have him live with them.
 

Pr0d1gy

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100% correct sportage. Dish should be marketed as the tech-head conservative consumer's product because it is certainly priced and featured to fit that bill. I honestly don't feel I could have made a better decision on which service to choose.
 

sportage

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Does the hopper commercial skip work? YES!
Too good to be true.
So I expect law suits to put an end to that feature.
Isn't that how it always goes?
 

IamDavid

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Does the hopper commercial skip work? YES!
Too good to be true.
So I expect law suits to put an end to that feature.
Isn't that how it always goes?

Its a crazy cool feature along with the record all primetime. I also love how the DVR boxes are linked together so I now have 4TB's of room! Not even my wife and kids can complain about it anymore...
 

Pr0d1gy

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Its a crazy cool feature along with the record all primetime. I also love how the DVR boxes are linked together so I now have 4TB's of room! Not even my wife and kids can complain about it anymore...

I know, right? My DVR was half full when the Olympics started and by the time it ended I had over 30 Olympic broadcasts recorded as well, with many of them being 4 to 8 hour broadcasts. Simply amazing 21st century tech.
 

trasixes

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Let me know how that picture looks like when it starts raining.


It looks wonderful still here!

Rain fade isn't a problem. I personally made use of a couple of large dishes that were still standing, but no longer used. Nothing short of a natural disaster, or terrorist act, will diminish my viewing.