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HumblePie

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I don't have pictures at work. I do have a picture for a mod I was doing on my computer I uploaded to my website. Did this for the heck of it the other weekend. Painted one side panel and etched the clear side of the other panel with an image. I need to post the picture I did of the top panel. I didn't exactly have a digital camera when I was her age to take pictures of my art for the web either. So alot of my older stuff that's good is hanging around houses of various relatives, cheifly my parents house. Or some has been stolen, yah stolen. Some of it was "taken" when submitted to art contests over the years. When I say taken, some art contest had little disclaimers that say anything submitted is now "theirs" and they don't have to give it back either. I did have a few I've sold off too.

As for these pictures, yah, they are of anime characters for a show I like. Not exactly "artistically" visionary using someone else's characters but I don't really care either cause I liked it and so I painted it.


Side panel

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Chewy

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Right now how much are you selling your paintings for?

Between $40,000 and $700,000.

Is that $700,000 a typo? HOLY JEEBUS!
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: Chewy
Right now how much are you selling your paintings for?

Between $40,000 and $700,000.

Is that $700,000 a typo? HOLY JEEBUS!



If she can get someone to buy them for that much, more power to her. Well to her agent(s). As others pointed out, that level of art work can be found just about anywhere. Go to a local "starving" artists festival near your town and find similar stuff for $10.
 

BAMAVOO

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Originally posted by: d3lta
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Why did you paint the portrait of Jesus?
It was God's timing; I had been looking for a Jesus model for two years, and I could not find the right face. Then one day I asked my family to pray with me all day. We petitioned God to send the model right through our front door. The next day a tall carpenter came in. He was so humble, and I was surprised that he agreed to model for me. But a week later he called back to say that he was unworthy to represent his master. We all prayed together again, and a few days later he called back to tell us that God wanted him to do it, but he had to cut his hair and beard in three days. So we took a few pictures and I studied his face for a long time. After dozens of sketches, I started painting. It took me 40 hours to finish the first Jesus painting ?The Prince of Peace-- and I still remember I lost four teeth in that time!

:Q


You guys have no idea what power prayer holds. Why can't people beleive this girl made the statement? Deeply religious people can still think.
you know, a few weeks ago i would have ridiculed the sh1t out of this. but i guess things have changed.

 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Very good art, but it could do without the religious brainwashing/propaganda.

EDIT: I also take issue with the term "binary genius". How does one define genius in art? I don't think simply being very very good at something automatically instates genius. Are Olympian sprinters geniuses at running?

Silly comparison.... art is obviously more mental than it is physical....



Tell that to sculptors, architects, street painters, stage performers, mimes, and actors/actresses, etc.
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Aharami
But Im not fond of her religious theme in all of her paintings.
Who cares? I don't personally like her style (although I admit it is talented), but more than 99% of the best art in the world is religiously-themed. You'll pardon me, but the typical rabid atheistic hate here is just ignorant and bigoted... as always.



ROFL, we simply say we don't care for a certain theme and you jump down our throats calling us "rabid", "ignorant", "bigoted", and more.

Would you be doing the same thing if we'd said we didn't care for paintings of frogs?

Every body wants to turn religion into some grand topic, when honestly I have no more trouble commenting on it than I do on frogs because it MEANS about as much as frogs do. That's why you won't find me paying any kind of especial attention to religion/religious themes, nor will you find me going out of my way to rally against it.

This thread is a public discussion of a certain artists products, and many people are voicing their opinions and reasons for them. If someone happens to not care for this artwork because it contains a religious theme, that isn't rabid religious hatred, that's simply a different preference.

People who refer to different opinions as "rabid, bigoted, ignorant" are those who truly need to open their minds up a little bit more, and stop trying to be "holier-than-thou" regarding their stance (no f*cking pun intended). After all, all we did was note that we didn't care for a certain theme - we certainly didn't resort to slandering, as you apparently felt the need to.
 

HumblePie

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Hrmm... was asked to put up or shut up. So I put up and no response? ahh I expected more from ATOT!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
ROFL, we simply say we don't care for a certain theme and you jump down our throats calling us "rabid", "ignorant", "bigoted", and more.

Would you be doing the same thing if we'd said we didn't care for paintings of frogs?

Every body wants to turn religion into some grand topic, when honestly I have no more trouble commenting on it than I do on frogs because it MEANS about as much as frogs do. That's why you won't find me paying any kind of especial attention to religion/religious themes, nor will you find me going out of my way to rally against it.

This thread is a public discussion of a certain artists products, and many people are voicing their opinions and reasons for them. If someone happens to not care for this artwork because it contains a religious theme, that isn't rabid religious hatred, that's simply a different preference.

People who refer to different opinions as "rabid, bigoted, ignorant" are those who truly need to open their minds up a little bit more, and stop trying to be "holier-than-thou" regarding their stance (no f*cking pun intended). After all, all we did was note that we didn't care for a certain theme - we certainly didn't resort to slandering, as you apparently felt the need to.
Which was why the discussion (from most of the dissenters) was nothing about the artistic ability, and everything about her "brainwashing," right?

:roll:

Each person has a right to believe in such things as they see fit. It's not being open-minded to insult another person's beliefs, get a clue. I was not insulting the beliefs of the ATOT rabid atheist rabble, I was insulting their disgusting behavior. Big difference. Get another clue. Atheism IS a religion, and a faith, and not based in any way on scientific principles. What I saw was the closed-minded "brainwashed" decrying something else as being brainwashed. Pathetic.
I'm not saying this to start a flame war, nor to argue religion, but because I was yet again disgusted by the nastiness of rabid ATOT atheists. A little 10 year-old girl makes some nice art, her innocent religious beliefs provide her inspiration, and the low-brows attack her for it. If it wasn't for my sense of moral indignation, I often think I should let the rabble continue their mindless attacks, as they only make themselves look bad and most everyone else knows it.
 

LinuxIdiot

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Originally posted by: HumblePie

As for these pictures, yah, they are of anime characters for a show I like. Not exactly "artistically" visionary using someone else's characters but I don't really care either cause I liked it and so I painted it.


Side panel

Etching

:thumbsup: would love something like that on my Shuttle sn95g5
 

mrCide

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heh, cant believe how many sad people pick on a 4-10 year old girls art. even insulting how the girl looks.. sad sad.. guess nothings changed here :)
 

HumblePie

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Yah, it's pretty bad people are picking on her.. even for looks and choice of inspiration. I can't fault anyone at all for what they want or why they want it when it comes to art. To each their own. She has good technical skill, but it would be interesting to see how to expands upon on. I thought I was good at art, mainly drawing and painting, until I tried sculpting. Took me awhile before I could do something decent enough to even place in art contests. But expanding upon and doing something new with art is what I define a great artist by. Sticking with your "niche" is fine and dandy but you'll never be great. When she starts changing the subject mater, I'm NOT criticizing her subject matter, just saying when she starts mixing it up, then we'll see. Doing abstract, sur-realism, stiple, and what not. There are tons of different brush techniques I bet she has yet to come close to mastering.

As I say again, her agent or promoter is where the real genius is :) Art knows no age and I've seen people just as talented as her at her age ALOT. I was one so I got to "hang" with that crowd I guess. Gawd I'm a nerd for even saying that.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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So she has talent beyond anyone here and all a lot of people can do is bitch because she's religious.

What a bunch of assholes.
 

pclstyle

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: HumblePie
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The skill is impressive ESPECIALLY considering her age, but that crap looks like the stuff they sell at discount furniture stores for people who want instant decor...



Age has nothing to do with it. She just has better fine motor skills, probably better eye sight then average, and that's really all you need besides confidence. Confidence is key to convince yourself you are beyond drawing stick figures and cutting hearts out of paper plates, and making people chains by folding up paper and cutting them out. I guess if I hadn't seen it before, or hadn't actually been like her at that age I would be impressed. But really, it's not THAT uncommon for art. I had pictures hanging in the Smithsonian when I was 8 from winning an art contest. I did a 4 foot by 6 foot picture of all stiple dots so close together that you had to be closer then 4 feet away to it to realize it was all dots. It was a picture of my little brother walking besides a duck/swan pond we had by our house in Holland. All I used was a regular ink pen. It took me 8 months to do but it really wasn't all that hard. Heck, I got to the point I could watch TV and let my hand do everything with me only having to glance over at the picture to reposition my hand for a new section.

I duno, maybe Im bitter because while I was good, I never did much with it. Didn't really know how nor did I care to "market" my skills when I was 8 years old. I did it because I thought it was fun and something to do. chances are, I'd probably never have entered an art contest at all if my parents hadn't submitted my art in.

The problem with Art is that there is no age boundaries. If you guys here saw half the crap I'd seen while growing up then you wouldn't be as impressed. I only wish there was an internet when I was her age :p Might have made money... naw.


Ok, so post some pictures of the great art you could do at 8 years old. Like LolaWiz said her use of lighting and shadows is amazing. for a kid her age to have that kind of skill is amazing. so humor us and show us your art.

i also would like to see some pieces, to satisfy my own curiosity, not for any cynical or sarcastic reasons.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Would you be doing the same thing if we'd said we didn't care for paintings of frogs?

That's ridiculous. Everyone loves paintings of frogs, especially naked ones.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
Yah, it's pretty bad people are picking on her.. even for looks and choice of inspiration. I can't fault anyone at all for what they want or why they want it when it comes to art. To each their own. She has good technical skill, but it would be interesting to see how to expands upon on. I thought I was good at art, mainly drawing and painting, until I tried sculpting. Took me awhile before I could do something decent enough to even place in art contests. But expanding upon and doing something new with art is what I define a great artist by. Sticking with your "niche" is fine and dandy but you'll never be great. When she starts changing the subject mater, I'm NOT criticizing her subject matter, just saying when she starts mixing it up, then we'll see. Doing abstract, sur-realism, stiple, and what not. There are tons of different brush techniques I bet she has yet to come close to mastering.

As I say again, her agent or promoter is where the real genius is :) Art knows no age and I've seen people just as talented as her at her age ALOT. I was one so I got to "hang" with that crowd I guess. Gawd I'm a nerd for even saying that.

I'm not sure if we agree or we are arguing. I agree with you that experimentation with your technique is the only way to grow artistically. That is how you learn and become better, not by drawing the same damn thing. But she is not though, her technique is amazing (for a 10 year old, and pretty damn good for anyone for that matter). It is her subject matter that seems rather blah, but SHE IS 10 YEARS OLD. Someone that old just doesn't have the mental capacity to really push themselves subject wise and create something meaningful.

I would LOVE to see stuff you did at 10 since you were just as good as her. And now look, you draw anime. :roll:

And then you rag on her because she doesn't sculpt? Wtf? I'm not some great artist but I am also no stranger to the world of art. I've been drawing all my life, won several art contests, and have 3 years of graphic design under my belt. And for being 10 years old this girl is amazing. Wait until her mind develops more to where she can really come up with good compositions and subjects.
 

HumblePie

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I don't just draw anime. That's the only thing I could show on short notice since A) I'm a work B) I haven't taken digital photographs of all my work just 35mm slides C) I don;t have everything I used to. Not even sure I can dig around and figure out half the crap I did at 10 because I wasn't really putting a date on all my artwork when I did them. I was using that picture I did above as a reference. Why? because I was drawing and painting that well at around age 5... I know it was that age I started pumping out art work cause it was first grade (I had to wait a year coming back to the states) in Holland in Mrs Rain's class. Gawd she was hawt for a first grade European teacher :p

Anyhow, that anime picture is the first piece of "art" I've done in about 12 years. At the end of high school I was so burnt out.. producing 2 to 4 peices per week. That I didn't want to touch another paint brush again! Well for a long time. It got to the point, where everything I did was "technically" good and done very well. The problem was I thought it lacked heart and soul. Do you know how many pieces of art you need to pump out for AP art classes and the various contests, shows, and gallery exhibits that can be done in a year? Gah. Here's my 4 years of high school life... all without much social interaction with other kids my age.

Wake up 4 am. Swim for 2 hours before school (was on swim team). Get ready and start school. Go to school from 8ish to 4ish. Soccer or baseball practice (depending if fall or spring) for 2 hours. Get home eat dinner. Wait an hour doing homework. Swim another hour. Do art 2 more hours. go to bed. Start next day cycle all over. Weekends didn't have me going to school but swim meets, soccer and baseball games or art exhibits. It was REAL fun at first but you can get burnt out real fast.

I was pointing out, yes she is good at what she has done. I was pointing out age means NOTHING when it comes to being technically good at art. I'm not that much better a drawer/painter now at 27 then I was at age 5. Seriously. I can do stuff I never could at 5 like sculpt and other art forms. Somehow, no one would give me a Tig welder at that age :p I'm also trying to point out that this is a fairly common occurance because not only have I been in her place, I've seen TONS of other kids growing up with that kind of talent at an early age. The reason people are going "WOW" now is because it's much easier to get a website then when I was a kid and grow a fanbase then get an agent and go to town.
 

UglyCasanova

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k. :)

And I'm sorry if I don't believe you that you were that good at 5 or hell even 10. I'm sure you drew, and drew a lot. I did to. Art consumed a good deal of my free time as well. But that girl has got some amazing skills that you just don't see in kids that age. You are right there are boatloads of kids out there who are very good at art, but 99.99% of them cannot do what she is doing even if their subjects may be more interesting. Give this girl a couple of years to actual realize and explore her own creativity, couple that with her abilities and lots of practice, and I'm sure she can do some absolutely remarkable things.
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: Baked
She's gonna kill herself. Geniuses tend to have severe depression.


She doesn't have to be a genius to be good at art from an early age. Just good eye sight, fine motor skill control, and the ability to "put to paint" what she sees. If you notice or read, everything she did was from another model or picture. Usually a picture. It's DAMN hard for any artist, and I have this problem from time to time, to come up with something straight from the imagination that they've never practiced drawing over and over. That's genius. Working from existing subject matter is what 99.9999% of artists do. Sure they recomposition it, change a few things here and there, maybe take two or more compositions and put them together, but rarely is it straight from the imagination. The imagination is thinking of what you want to draw, for her it's religous in context right now, and findng a suitable reference to work from. Be it a photo, item, rendition, or model of a person, place or thing.

This is why many artists fall into certain "niches' of what they draw. Look at Chistian Lansen. I have some of his work (original stuff and signed from an art contest I won that he sponsored in hawaii). He does mostly "Sea" animals and environments. He puts a ton of detail into them as well. But I bet you any amount of money that each creature he draws he sat there and drew it over and over in different positions working from existing imagery until he could draw the critter in any way, shape, or form straight out of his head without looking at a reference anymore. Genius is getting to that point so you no longer need a reference without "killing" yourself along the way. I never got to that point really so I'm not a genius. If she makes it over the years to that point then we'll see :p


Also, if I'm going to nitpick a bit on her technique... she is painting BIG pictures, which when you see them in small digitized format look a helluva lot better then they do up close. Happens with all artwork. Repodructions tend to look "better" to most people and they never realize it. She's working with acrylics right now and there are parts of her technique that look straight out of Bob Ross style of work. Like the seagulls over the ocean wedged between the rocky cliffs. There are also a couple proportion issues with certain faces. True, not everyone's face is perfectly proportioned either so I really can't say anything about that, just pointing it out. Even without seeing the original, some pieces looked like she caked on the acrylic layers badly, which would cause strange lighting effects when the original was viewed. There are other minute details I could point to, but then again, no art is really perfect.

I'm NOT saying she's not good, and better then "average" because most people I know can not do a lick of art. I'm just saying it's nothing new or crazy. Nor is she one of a kind. Also, even if I mananged to find some of my older work and posted it, I doubt anyone would believe me if I said I did that piece at 7 or 8 or 9 or whatever. Why? because I'm 27 now and unless I was STILL that age, no one would beleive me.

Check out the national scholastic art awards for MILLIONS of talented kids starting from 7th grade to 12th.