WOW, caved in again.

[imported_Shivetya]

http://usatoday.printthis.clickability....budget_N.htm%3Fcsp%3D34&partnerID=1660


what happened to their 100 hour push? Oh yeah, stuck in committe. What happened to all their bluster during the campaigns? Apparently the BDS sufferers got swindled, the new Democrats in power are just like the old Republicans in power, beholden to no one other than themselves and special intrests.


and best yet, funding it hasn't changed a bit.

thank goodness the tax cuts stuck. pulling them would probably tank the economy and keep a democrat out of the Whitehouse.

 

[JD50]

Cue the Democrat apologists in 3...2..

 

[techs]

Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

I wasn't aware that they ran on that platform in the '06 elections?

But then again, I thought the Dems did?

But I'm not complaining either.

Fern

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

because the Democrats made it a point of their campaign and they also essentially locked the Republicans out of the process because they can.

They want to run the show then please do so, don't be just like the other guys or a replay of past Democrat majorities.

I guess the apologist like yourself excuse them because Republican's didn't do anything. Well hell, why do you think many Conservatives didn't vote for Republicans this time around? Easy - because they didn't do what was promised.

Continue down this course and the Republicans will get a majority in one house if not both, really screw the pooch and they will keep the White house too.


Its time for the Democrats to take action, not just talk or blame the other guy. Put the Republicans on the spot - see if they will blink.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

or cut all the wasted Government spending by the Republicans that they are asking to Democrats to fix in the first place?

 

[Trevelyan]

Seriously, I have absolutely no confidence that anyone running in 2008 is going to actually DO what they SAY.

From what I've seen, the best strategy is to talk about how much we need to get our finances in order, and then once elected, just keep borrowing money so you can please the special interest groups that got you elected.

 

[fskimospy]

Uhmmm, you know that the democrats don't have enough votes in the Senate to cut funding for the war, right?

There are now more of them... they have the chairmanships now.. but they don't have any more control over ending the war now then they did before due to the fact that

A.) Joe Lieberman isn't really a democrat, and

B.) They don't have the 60 votes to override a certain republican filibuster. (I bet the republicans are glad they didn't get rid of it now, huh?) So what do you expect them to do exactly? What would meet with your approval?

 

[Narmer]

This country really needs a third party that can stand up to these two. Both parties are different sides of the same coin. The Democrats want to have a clean slate going into '08. Politically intelligent but it gets no respect from me. It's time to destroy our political system and re-create. I'm not sure how, but I hope people my age see the limits of a two-party system before it's too late.

 

[Starbuck1975]

or cut all the wasted Government spending by the Republicans that they are asking to Democrats to fix in the first place?

Well here's the thing...the Democrats rode the '07 midterm wave of American discontent with the NeoCons, allowing them to capture the House & the Senate...while riding that wave, they ran on a platform of reform and change.

Yet it seems that the Democrats are afraid to commit on any course of action in fear of jeopardizing their chances at taking the White House in '08.

Nonbinding resolutions and hand wringing is not going to gain voter confidence.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Uhmmm, you know that the democrats don't have enough votes in the Senate to cut funding for the war, right?

There are now more of them... they have the chairmanships now.. but they don't have any more control over ending the war now then they did before due to the fact that

A.) Joe Lieberman isn't really a democrat, and

B.) They don't have the 60 votes to override a certain republican filibuster. (I bet the republicans are glad they didn't get rid of it now, huh?) So what do you expect them to do exactly? What would meet with your approval?

Adding, plus the blue dogs are out of lockstep with the country and too more worried about potential republican frames in '08.

 

[fskimospy]

Don't you guys get it though? The people who have the positions that you are mentioning don't even add up to 50 people in a 100 person chamber. What are you expecting them to do? If you don't like it... you should have booted out even more Republicans.

They know that the majority of the country wants out of Iraq, they know that the majority of the country wants the war to be over. They know that they can't get the support of enough of congress to get any of those aims passed. This is why they pass those lame "nonbinding resolutions" and crap like that. They are trying to show that they know what people want, but this is the only way they can get something on paper that shows it.

As Reid said the other day, he starts with 49 votes on any of these subjects. (the one guy out with a stroke, and Lieberman is effectively a Republican who only ran as a Democrat because he knew he couldn't win otherwise)

So honestly, if you want to talk trash about the democrats that's fine. I would really like to hear if anyone has some ideas how they can leverage their 49 vote anti-war minority into meaningful legislation. <---- I'm not being sarcastic... I'd like to know.

 

[First]

Dems not getting as much done as you want. Unfortunate consequence of being stuck policing political corruption on the right. What else can you do about one of the worst administrations in U.S. history? Tough job.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

Yeah? How are you going to do that? Pass meaningless resolutions?

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

or cut all the wasted Government spending by the Republicans that they are asking to Democrats to fix in the first place?

Democrats increased spending in their new budget, didn't raise taxes and didn't cut military funding...ahahah...They are worst than Republicans!

Isn't it awesome how everything was going to be such much different under Democrats and it turns out the deficit is expected to rise this year (although I believe it will still come in lower than projected in the budget, it nearly always does). Good job Democrats, you clearly are so much different than Republicans.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

Yeah? How are you going to do that? Pass meaningless resolutions?

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

or cut all the wasted Government spending by the Republicans that they are asking to Democrats to fix in the first place?

Democrats increased spending in their new budget, didn't raise taxes and didn't cut military funding...ahahah...They are worst than Republicans!

Isn't it awesome how everything was going to be such much different under Democrats and it turns out the deficit is expected to rise this year (although I believe it will still come in lower than projected in the budget, it nearly always does). Good job Democrats, you clearly are so much different than Republicans.

Yeah, you guys are probably right, it's not worth saving.

Let both of em drive it into the ground. The Dems will just finish off what the Repubs started.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

Yeah? How are you going to do that? Pass meaningless resolutions?

He's going on a bitching and moaning campaign on Anandtech that he expects will gain the attention of high level government figures, which should OBVIOUSLY make them see the error in their thinking.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

Yeah? How are you going to do that? Pass meaningless resolutions?

He's going on a bitching and moaning campaign on Anandtech that he expects will gain the attention of high level government figures, which should OBVIOUSLY make them see the error in their thinking.

I don't know about U.S. Government high level figures but have a large percentage of hits on my website from Qatar and United Arab Emerates.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs
Why aren't you pressuring the Republicans to cut war funding?

Oh this is grand, Ill use the democrat excuse for the past 4 years.

Democrats control both houses, duh!

You just go right on doing that while the rest of us work on saving the Country you and your ilk destroyed.

I did not realize cutting out our support from Iraq constituted saving a country. How are Iranians and terrorists going to save it once you get us to leave?

 

[piasabird]

I like it when Hillary says the dastardly Republicans tricked her into voting for the war. This is such a load of cow manure. She voted for the war because she stuck her finger in the air or took a poll and it said that the war was popular. So she voted for it. Now she wants to take her vote back. Any idiot lawyer who claimed to have worked during the Nixon Era should have known that the terrorists would never stop coming. Apparently Hillary Clinton has learned nothing.

To be the president you have to take responsibility for your actions.

Those republicans tricked me into voting for the war . . . .

This is a load of Hog Swallow!!!!

Hillary is why the war started. She voted for it and she is responsible for everything that happened.


Never trust a Lawyer!
Never trust a Lawyer!
Never trust a Lawyer!

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: piasabird
I like it when Hillary says the dastardly Republicans tricked her into voting for the war. This is such a load of cow manure. She voted for the war because she stuck her finger in the air or took a poll and it said that the war was popular. So she voted for it. Now she wants to take her vote back. Any idiot lawyer who claimed to have worked during the Nixon Era should have known that the terrorists would never stop coming. Apparently Hillary Clinton has learned nothing.

To be the president you have to take responsibility for your actions.

Those republicans tricked me into voting for the war . . . .

This is a load of Hog Swallow!!!!

Hillary is why the war started. She voted for it and she is responsible for everything that happened.


Never trust a Lawyer!
Never trust a Lawyer!
Never trust a Lawyer!

:thumbsup:

While I don't think she or any other senator is responsible for what happened in Iraq, she definitely is responsible for her vote.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: ntdz
Democrats increased spending in their new budget, didn't raise taxes and didn't cut military funding...ahahah...They are worst than Republicans!

So the Republican version of cutting taxes while increasing spending is a more fisically sound policy than increasing spending with no change in taxes?

 

[ElFenix]

this is the longest 100 hours i've ever sat through in my life.