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Acanthus

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Litchfield285
Originally posted by: CVSiN
wtf are you smoking the hunter is still one of the most powerful classes.. every single hunter on our server is Knight Captain or higher...
they are higher than most of the rogues...

hell my L32 hunter twink is already at master sargeant... and I can hit 60s with no problems for almost full amount at 32... mages and other classes cant...

Hunters are an evil pvp character and the flat out fastest character to PVE with period...

Ive been playing hunters since the Hunter push in beta... you think we suck now... shoulda tried us before our talents..

pets are getting a complete overhaul... they will be able to use thier racial skills... ie posion and such for spiders/scorps
pets were nerfed a bit in advance to make up for this coming addition...

Hunters are freaking one of the best most balanced classes in this game and yet you complain...

Yet another Hunter with the wool pulled over his eyes. Hunters are evil in group PvP, yes, so we will own in Battlegrounds and do own with the honor system.
In 1v1 PvP we can barely beat anyone, except for Rogues. A well played Hunter will lose to a poorly played Mage/Druid/Shaman/Warlock/Paladin/Warrior/Priest any day of the week.

oh AND WE'RE STILL WORTHLESS IN ENDGAME NON RAID INSTANCES... so we're NOT balanced, and these "Pet Overhauls" are coming when? They are fixing the pet speed bug with this patch but that is it. So far I've been promised a bunch but been given nothing. The only thing we had special about our pets was taken away from us, and we were given DASH AND DIVE!!! omfg!!11!!

Wake up, realize that we are not needed in endgame instances, our pets are completely worthless at their current state, and they continue to nerf our dps and take away features that were supposed to be unique to our class...

The only reason why I'm taking my Hunter to 60 is because of Battlegrounds, thats it.

Um dude... number 1 your freaking clueless.... Hunters are MANDATORY for MC... flat out.. without 2 with pacifing shot you can just call off the entire raid...

#2 read the patch notes a little more closely... they said they are rebuilding the hunter pet ssystem from the ground up... thats why they were nerfed.. as shortly...(next content patch) pets will be completely different...

#3 we can beat any class 1 on 1 in a duel flat out. get new tacttics if you cant... its possible to never lose to any class ranged or not as a hunter..... and in group PVP we are gods...

you dont beleive me come watch Gorfeinds hunters and see how its done...
we have hunters on our server that have the ranged DPS of a mage and the close in melee DPS of the best equipped rogue... (epic weps and full MC gear)

we have a hunter in my guild that destroys anyone flat out ..
he is the second highest rank pvp character on the server....
the first is a Shadow priest...

sure he has gear that other people dont have ... and wont have any time soon.. but that goes to show where they are tuning charaters from.. the top end..


to the other guy.. priest vs rogue is no contest.. the rogue should lose 100% of the time.. priest with even a little splash of shadow rapes all others...

A well played rogue will beat a priest 100% of the time. Im a veteran PvPer (in other games and this one) and i say this with confidence.
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Litchfield285
Originally posted by: CVSiN
wtf are you smoking the hunter is still one of the most powerful classes.. every single hunter on our server is Knight Captain or higher...
they are higher than most of the rogues...

hell my L32 hunter twink is already at master sargeant... and I can hit 60s with no problems for almost full amount at 32... mages and other classes cant...

Hunters are an evil pvp character and the flat out fastest character to PVE with period...

Ive been playing hunters since the Hunter push in beta... you think we suck now... shoulda tried us before our talents..

pets are getting a complete overhaul... they will be able to use thier racial skills... ie posion and such for spiders/scorps
pets were nerfed a bit in advance to make up for this coming addition...

Hunters are freaking one of the best most balanced classes in this game and yet you complain...

Yet another Hunter with the wool pulled over his eyes. Hunters are evil in group PvP, yes, so we will own in Battlegrounds and do own with the honor system.
In 1v1 PvP we can barely beat anyone, except for Rogues. A well played Hunter will lose to a poorly played Mage/Druid/Shaman/Warlock/Paladin/Warrior/Priest any day of the week.

oh AND WE'RE STILL WORTHLESS IN ENDGAME NON RAID INSTANCES... so we're NOT balanced, and these "Pet Overhauls" are coming when? They are fixing the pet speed bug with this patch but that is it. So far I've been promised a bunch but been given nothing. The only thing we had special about our pets was taken away from us, and we were given DASH AND DIVE!!! omfg!!11!!

Wake up, realize that we are not needed in endgame instances, our pets are completely worthless at their current state, and they continue to nerf our dps and take away features that were supposed to be unique to our class...

The only reason why I'm taking my Hunter to 60 is because of Battlegrounds, thats it.

Um dude... number 1 your freaking clueless.... Hunters are MANDATORY for MC... flat out.. without 2 with pacifing shot you can just call off the entire raid...

#2 read the patch notes a little more closely... they said they are rebuilding the hunter pet ssystem from the ground up... thats why they were nerfed.. as shortly...(next content patch) pets will be completely different...

#3 we can beat any class 1 on 1 in a duel flat out. get new tacttics if you cant... its possible to never lose to any class ranged or not as a hunter..... and in group PVP we are gods...

you dont beleive me come watch Gorfeinds hunters and see how its done...
we have hunters on our server that have the ranged DPS of a mage and the close in melee DPS of the best equipped rogue... (epic weps and full MC gear)

we have a hunter in my guild that destroys anyone flat out ..
he is the second highest rank pvp character on the server....
the first is a Shadow priest...

sure he has gear that other people dont have ... and wont have any time soon.. but that goes to show where they are tuning charaters from.. the top end..


to the other guy.. priest vs rogue is no contest.. the rogue should lose 100% of the time.. priest with even a little splash of shadow rapes all others...

A well played rogue will beat a priest 100% of the time. Im a veteran PvPer (in other games and this one) and i say this with confidence.

shadow priest will pwn a rogue specially if they have the antistun trinkets... cant stun lock youll run out of life before they will run outa mana and sheilds...
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
19,915
2
76
ostif.org
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Litchfield285
Originally posted by: CVSiN
wtf are you smoking the hunter is still one of the most powerful classes.. every single hunter on our server is Knight Captain or higher...
they are higher than most of the rogues...

hell my L32 hunter twink is already at master sargeant... and I can hit 60s with no problems for almost full amount at 32... mages and other classes cant...

Hunters are an evil pvp character and the flat out fastest character to PVE with period...

Ive been playing hunters since the Hunter push in beta... you think we suck now... shoulda tried us before our talents..

pets are getting a complete overhaul... they will be able to use thier racial skills... ie posion and such for spiders/scorps
pets were nerfed a bit in advance to make up for this coming addition...

Hunters are freaking one of the best most balanced classes in this game and yet you complain...

Yet another Hunter with the wool pulled over his eyes. Hunters are evil in group PvP, yes, so we will own in Battlegrounds and do own with the honor system.
In 1v1 PvP we can barely beat anyone, except for Rogues. A well played Hunter will lose to a poorly played Mage/Druid/Shaman/Warlock/Paladin/Warrior/Priest any day of the week.

oh AND WE'RE STILL WORTHLESS IN ENDGAME NON RAID INSTANCES... so we're NOT balanced, and these "Pet Overhauls" are coming when? They are fixing the pet speed bug with this patch but that is it. So far I've been promised a bunch but been given nothing. The only thing we had special about our pets was taken away from us, and we were given DASH AND DIVE!!! omfg!!11!!

Wake up, realize that we are not needed in endgame instances, our pets are completely worthless at their current state, and they continue to nerf our dps and take away features that were supposed to be unique to our class...

The only reason why I'm taking my Hunter to 60 is because of Battlegrounds, thats it.

Um dude... number 1 your freaking clueless.... Hunters are MANDATORY for MC... flat out.. without 2 with pacifing shot you can just call off the entire raid...

#2 read the patch notes a little more closely... they said they are rebuilding the hunter pet ssystem from the ground up... thats why they were nerfed.. as shortly...(next content patch) pets will be completely different...

#3 we can beat any class 1 on 1 in a duel flat out. get new tacttics if you cant... its possible to never lose to any class ranged or not as a hunter..... and in group PVP we are gods...

you dont beleive me come watch Gorfeinds hunters and see how its done...
we have hunters on our server that have the ranged DPS of a mage and the close in melee DPS of the best equipped rogue... (epic weps and full MC gear)

we have a hunter in my guild that destroys anyone flat out ..
he is the second highest rank pvp character on the server....
the first is a Shadow priest...

sure he has gear that other people dont have ... and wont have any time soon.. but that goes to show where they are tuning charaters from.. the top end..


to the other guy.. priest vs rogue is no contest.. the rogue should lose 100% of the time.. priest with even a little splash of shadow rapes all others...

A well played rogue will beat a priest 100% of the time. Im a veteran PvPer (in other games and this one) and i say this with confidence.

shadow priest will pwn a rogue specially if they have the antistun trinkets... cant stun lock youll run out of life before they will run outa mana and sheilds...

vanish...
 

Vortex22

Diamond Member
Sep 6, 2000
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Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

vanish...

Is useless when you have a DOT on you.
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
19,915
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76
ostif.org
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.
 

Vortex22

Diamond Member
Sep 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.

But the discussion is about rogue vs shadow priests...
Most priests are shadow anyway, pure holy is quite rare since the loss in offense in much greater than the gain in healing power.
 

Malladine

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Vortex22
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.

But the discussion is about rogue vs shadow priests...
Most priests are shadow anyway, pure holy is quite rare since the loss in offense in much greater than the gain in healing power.
IIRC my 60 priest was 11 pts shadow 25 holy and the rest discipline. My pvp capacity was decent in duels but groups were always too chaotic to really do or see anything. As far as i can tell rogues, mages and hunters are the only fun classes in large pvp battles.

btw
i'm getting mega cravings to play wow again. I'd appreciate any help whatsoever...the wife is currently refusing :p
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

vanish...

Is useless when you have a DOT on you.

yup that sucks bad i hate that =P

gogo vanish.. oh crap im dotted... screwed... dead
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
19,915
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76
ostif.org
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.

But the discussion is about rogue vs shadow priests...
Most priests are shadow anyway, pure holy is quite rare since the loss in offense in much greater than the gain in healing power.
IIRC my 60 priest was 11 pts shadow 25 holy and the rest discipline. My pvp capacity was decent in duels but groups were always too chaotic to really do or see anything. As far as i can tell rogues, mages and hunters are the only fun classes in large pvp battles.

try an instnace on the beta server, its all the difference in the world.
 

Malladine

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.

But the discussion is about rogue vs shadow priests...
Most priests are shadow anyway, pure holy is quite rare since the loss in offense in much greater than the gain in healing power.
IIRC my 60 priest was 11 pts shadow 25 holy and the rest discipline. My pvp capacity was decent in duels but groups were always too chaotic to really do or see anything. As far as i can tell rogues, mages and hunters are the only fun classes in large pvp battles.

try an instnace on the beta server, its all the difference in the world.
how do you mean?
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
19,915
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76
ostif.org
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Malladine
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Vortex22
Shadow priests can beat every other class with ease except for a well played shaman. Rogues are no problem for priests.

Not all priests are shadow, some like to do our primary intended function. Healing.

But the discussion is about rogue vs shadow priests...
Most priests are shadow anyway, pure holy is quite rare since the loss in offense in much greater than the gain in healing power.
IIRC my 60 priest was 11 pts shadow 25 holy and the rest discipline. My pvp capacity was decent in duels but groups were always too chaotic to really do or see anything. As far as i can tell rogues, mages and hunters are the only fun classes in large pvp battles.

try an instnace on the beta server, its all the difference in the world.
how do you mean?

You have a lot more fun and can server your role far better in the instances that in the zerg hell that was TM.
 

Malladine

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2003
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btw
i'm getting mega cravings to play wow again. I'd appreciate any help whatsoever...the wife is currently refusing :p
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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Who needs vanish or stun lock. As long as you start from close range as a rogue, you win. Be it from initial stealth or some other means. The priest has no viable way to get to proper distance and can't survive at close range (less armor, all damage spells get interrupted after shield goes, less armor, etc.). The closest thing to a distance maker is fear, which is virtually worthless against undead rogues who have will of the forsaken and an anti-fear trinket. A well equipped rogue will take the priest down in about 10 seconds at close range, shield, shadowform, and all. The only chance a priest has to win is to catch the rogue from a distance while the rogue is unstealthed and nuke / mind flay.
 

Malladine

Diamond Member
Mar 31, 2003
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ya the fact is the priest has to work much harder to kill the rogue than vice versa.