I dont know what rosy colored glasses you wear, but every convention Ive watched or been to has been chalk full of rhetoric. That includes this years DNC.
Barak was good, but we wasn't a GREAT speaker. He was so close, but at the end the moment was right and if he'd pushed up the tempo and put some fire into it, he'd have left people standing and cheering like no one has yet.
As it was, he got a nice applause and left the stage.
I loved what he had to say, I'm just saying that as a huge fan of oratory and rhetoric, he didn't finish strong enough for me.
As it was, he got a nice applause and left the stage.
I loved what he had to say, I'm just saying that as a huge fan of oratory and rhetoric, he didn't finish strong enough for me.
You know something, it may seem like rhetoric to you, but to many people this is the first time they experience anything like this. As a 20 year old, this is the first time I will ever vote for a President. I may be more prepared in knowing where candidates stand, but many people use these conventions as their first tastes of where each candidate stands.
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I know nothing about Barak. In fact, when my dad told me Barak was speaking at the DNC I almost flipped because I thought he was talking about Ehud Barak (former Israeli PM.) But let me just say his speech hit home. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. He's the type of moderate progressive with common-sense values any American can relate to, on either side of the fence. He was a keynote speaker not because he was black, or because he was young, or because he's a "political superstar", but because he is the face of the campaign Kerry is trying to run--a campaign focused on uniting our country and our people in a way Bush couldn't do for much longer after September 11.
I heard he's the son of a cook who immigrated into this country from somewhere in Africa, and strong values helped him on his road to graduating from Yale and possibly winning a Senate seat this year. This is my America in a nutshell. So many Asians and other hard-working, upwardly mobile immigrants can identify with him. Its so hard for us to find our party, because we believe in solidarity and much of the Democrats' social ideology but in our private lives we are more like conservative Republicans stressing strong families and moral/religious values (and our fat paychecks can use the tax cuts too!) From what little I know about Obama and the speech I heard tonight, I think he strikes a nice balance between the two ideologies.
I heard he's the son of a cook who immigrated into this country from somewhere in Africa, and strong values helped him on his road to graduating from Yale and possibly winning a Senate seat this year. This is my America in a nutshell. So many Asians and other hard-working, upwardly mobile immigrants can identify with him. Its so hard for us to find our party, because we believe in solidarity and much of the Democrats' social ideology but in our private lives we are more like conservative Republicans stressing strong families and moral/religious values (and our fat paychecks can use the tax cuts too!) From what little I know about Obama and the speech I heard tonight, I think he strikes a nice balance between the two ideologies.
I think it will. Not many people may be watching the conventions live on television, but the important clips are going to be carried by news outlets across the board.
After watching Obama's speech again just now, his words ring more true than it did a couple of months ago.
Ugggh...."night clubs" => "sex clubs"
It's pretty obvious everyone was more freaked out about the sex club part than the forcing part....which I don't understand
Really . . . I didn't notice that. I think the image people (GOPie loyalists) showed a bit of "moral outrage" over the sex club thing. But IMHO most normal people probably thought he was a lowlife for trying to force his wife to do something she wasn't interested in.
I've never been to a "sex club" but seems like a couple would go to get their jollies on . . . not have one impose himself on the other . . . you can do that crap at home. IMO, most decent people thought he was an arse for what he did to his wife . . . not the location.
I thought this thread was going to be about Ehud Barak. The sole decent leader of Israel since Rabin.
He was a shining star at the DNC. He'll be passed over by the media, largely, as he speaks eloquently and intelligently and that doesn't make for good soundbites.
Damn...I hate the broadcast media.
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