Wow, Ars Technica roasts Kaby Lake

[Fritzo]

My current main rig is a 6600k/GTX-7700 upgraded from an FX-8350/GTX-6800 based system. Frankly under most circumstances the performance difference is not noticeable in anything other then benchmarks. I doubt seriously I would do it over again.

For new builds Kaby Lake is no question the way to go but for most folks an upgrade from any decent CPU is a waste of money IMO.

Triple monitors are the thing in gaming now, so you'd probably notice a difference there (with a paired memory card of course)

 

[AdamK47]

At least they they gave us a 10 core enthusiast CPU for the low price of $1700.

 

[Captante]

Maybe ... still slumming it with single-screen setups though.

(btw GPU's got an extra "0" added ... went full-retard there)

 

[MongGrel]

It's not stable. 5.1 is stable for me but some people have had it a tad higher and stable.

$350 for a chip you can pop up to 5.1 sounds not bad at all to me really, plus the additional lanes.

I'm happy were I'm at still, but it isn't that large of a stretch for an update or from scratch to me.

 

[dud]

If intel had stopped trying we would all still be buying new 2500ks.

The plateauing of CPU performance since Sandy Bridge is exactly why I specifically sought out and purchased an i5-2500k last year. I paid a fraction of what a "new" Haswell chip would have cost. PC performance is pretty imperceptible between the two for my purposes.

INHO without (much) completion from AMD and others ... why would Intel want to try? Competition drive innovation. Competition in the PC CPU market has been lacking for many years ... and so has innovation.

 

[tynopik]

INHO without (much) completion from AMD and others ... why would Intel want to try?

you answered your own question

The plateauing of CPU performance since Sandy Bridge is exactly why I specifically sought out and purchased an i5-2500k last year. I paid a fraction of what a "new" Haswell chip would have cost. PC performance is pretty imperceptible between the two for my purposes.

Intel's greatest competitor is their old products

people who feel no need to upgrade don't go out and spend money on a new systems

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

The plateauing of CPU performance since Sandy Bridge is exactly why I specifically sought out and purchased an i5-2500k last year. I paid a fraction of what a "new" Haswell chip would have cost. PC performance is pretty imperceptible between the two for my purposes.

Considering you can pickup 2500Ks for ~$50 and 2600Ks for ~$100 (bought two last week for $90/ea on CL),
the value proposition is hard to beat, unless you really need M2, PCI-E 3.0, more USB3/SATA3.

 

[Fritzo]

The plateauing of CPU performance since Sandy Bridge is exactly why I specifically sought out and purchased an i5-2500k last year. I paid a fraction of what a "new" Haswell chip would have cost. PC performance is pretty imperceptible between the two for my purposes.

INHO without (much) completion from AMD and others ... why would Intel want to try? Competition drive innovation. Competition in the PC CPU market has been lacking for many years ... and so has innovation.

Yeah, I still think the i5-4690k Devil's Canyon is the best value/performance gaming CPU out there. The overclocking ability of that chip is amazing.

 

[JEDI]

I didn't have the heart to put it in the CPU sub-forum.

The very first sentence:

Ouch.

Read the rest here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/01/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-review/

still 'tock tic tic' strategy?

I'm guessing Kaby Lake is a tic?

if so, then yeah, tics suck and not worth the bleeding edge $.

sandy bridge (tock) was great.
ivy bridge (tic) not so much.

in fact, I would dare say 80% of home users don't need anything more powerful than Sandy bridge.
kaby is like 6 generations above Sandy? 😱

 

[Miramonti]

Improvement is improved, but sucks for those who are pc speed-dependent looking for their world to be rocked. This kills enthusiasm and is yet another hit to the pc industry.

 

[Avalon]

Still sitting on an unlidded i5 3570K. Waiting for Ryzen to drop to see if I should go with an i5 7600K or a Ryzen chip, mainly to see what they will offer for a 4C/8T or 6C/12T configuration.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Still sitting on an unlidded i5 3570K. Waiting for Ryzen to drop to see if I should go with an i5 7600K or a Ryzen chip, mainly to see what they will offer for a 4C/8T or 6C/12T configuration.

If Ryzen is anything close to its hype, Intel will drop their prices a bunch in order to be competitive.